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Bertrice Small

2015-03-01T18:53:37Z

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'''Bertrice Small''' rode in on the bodice ripping wave and continues to attract a strong fan base due to her sexy stories and old-fashioned writing style. She began her publishing career as part of the [[Avon Ladies]] group. Over the course of her career, she published over 50 historical romances.

Bertrice Small passed away on February 24, 2015 at the age of 77. [[Sarah Wendell]] of [[Smart Bitches, Trashy Books]] wrote a remembrance [http://smartbitchestrashybooks.com/2015/02/bertrice-small-1937-2015/ here].

== On the Web ==
* [http://www.bertricesmall.net Bertrice Small]

== Books In Alphabetical Order==
* [[A Dangerous Love]] - 2006 ([[NAL]])
* [[A Distant Tomorrow]] - 2007 ([[HQN]])
* [[A Love For All Time - Bertrice Small|A Love For All Time]] - 1987, reprint 2001 ([[NAL]])
* [[A Memory Of Love]] - 2002 ([[Ivy Books]])
* [[A Moment In Time - Bertrice Small|A Moment In Time]] - 1991 ([[Ballantine]])
* [[All The Sweet Tomorrows]] - 1986 ([[Ballantine]])
* [[Adora]] - 1985 ([[Ballantine]])
* [[Bedazzled - Bertrice Small|Bedazzled]] - 2000 ([[Zebra]])
* [[Beloved - Bertrice Small|Beloved]] - 1985 ([[Ballantine]])
* [[Besieged - Bertrice Small|Besieged]] - 2000 ([[Zebra]])
* [[Betrayed - Bertrice Small|Betrayed]] - 1998 ([[Ivy Books]])
* [[Blaze Wyndham]] - 1988 ([[NAL]])
* [[The Border Lord's Bride|Border Lord's Bride, The]] - 2007 ([[NAL]])
* [[Darling Jasmine]] - 1998 ([[Zebra]])
* [[Deceived - Bertrice Small|Deceived]] - 1998 ([[Zebra]])
* [[The Dragon Lord's Daughters|Dragon Lord's Daughters, The]] - 2004 ([[Kensington]])
* [[The Duchess - Bertrice Small|Duchess, The]] - 2001 ([[Ballantine]])
* [[Enchantress Mine]] - 2004 ([[NAL]])
* [[Forbidden Pleasures - Bertrice Small|Forbidden Pleasures]] - 2006 ([[NAL]])
* [[Hellion]] - 1997 ([[Ivy Books]])
* [[The Innocent - Bertrice Small|Innocent, The]] - 2001 ([[Ivy Books]])
* [[Intrigued]] - 2001 ([[Zebra]])
* [[Just Beyond Tomorrow]] - 2002 ([[Zebra]])
* [[The Kadin|Kadin, The]] - 1978 ([[Avon]])
* [[Lara]] - 2006 ([[HQN]])
* [[The Last Heiress|Last Heiress, The]] - 2005 ([[NAL]])
* [[Lost Love Found]] - 1991 ([[Ballantine]])
* [[Love, Remember Me]] - 1994 ([[Ivy Books]])
* [[The Love Slave|Love Slave, The]] - 1997 ([[Ivy Books]])
* [[Love Wild And Fair]] - 1994 ([[Avon]])
* [[Philippa]] - 2004 ([[NAL]]/[[Signet]])
* [[Private Pleasures - Bertrice Small|Private Pleasures]] - 2004 ([[NAL]])
* [[Rosamund - Bertrice Small|Rosamund]] - 2002 ([[NAL]])
* [[Skye O'Malley]] - 1984 ([[Ballantine]])
* [[The Spitfire|Spitfire, The]] - 1990([[Ballantine]])
* [[Sudden Pleasures]] - 2007 ([[NAL]])
* [[This Heart Of Mine - Bertrice Small|This Heart Of Mine]] - 1988 ([[Ballantine]])
* [[To Love Again - Bertrice Small|To Love Again]] - 1993 ([[Ballantine]])
* [[The Twilight Lord|Twilight Lord, The]] - 2007 ([[HQN]])
* [[Unconquered]] - 1984 ([[Ballantine]])
* [[Until You - Bertrice Small|Until You]] - 2003 ([[NAL]]/[[Signet]])
* [[Vixens]] - 2003 ([[Kensington Brava]])
* [[Wild Jasmine - Bertrice Small|Wild Jasmine]] - 1992 ([[Ballantine]]), reprinted 1996 ([[Ivy Books]])

== Novellas ==
* "Zuleika And The Barbarian" in ''[[I Love Rogues - Anthology|I Love Rogues]]'' - 2003 ([[Kensington]] [[Brava]])
* "The Awakening" in ''[[Delighted - Anthology|Delighted]]'' - 2002 ([[Kensington]] [[Brava]])
* "Mastering Lady Lucinda" in ''[[Fascinated - Anthology|Fascinated]]'' - 2000 ([[Kensington]] [[Brava]])
* "Ecstasy" in ''[[Captivated - Anthology|Captivated]]'' - 1999 ([[Kensington]] [[Brava]])

== Series/Related Titles ==
===The O'Malley Saga===
* [[Skye O'Malley]] - 1984 ([[Ballantine]])
* [[All The Sweet Tomorrows]] - 1986 ([[Ballantine]])
* [[A Love For All Time - Bertrice Small|A Love For All Time]] - 1987 ([[NAL]])
* [[This Heart Of Mine - Bertrice Small|This Heart Of Mine]] - 1988 ([[Ballantine]])
* [[Lost Love Found]] - 1991 ([[Ballantine]])
* [[Wild Jasmine - Bertrice Small|Wild Jasmine]] - 1992 ([[Ballantine]])

===Skye's Legacy===
* [[Darling Jasmine]] - 1998 ([[Kensington]] [[Zebra]])
* [[Bedazzled - Bertrice Small|Bedazzled]] - 2000, reprint 2007 ([[Kensington]] [[Zebra]])
* [[Besieged - Bertrice Small|Besieged]] - 2000 ([[Kensington]] [[Zebra]])
* [[Intrigued]] - 2001 ([[Kensington]] [[Zebra]])
* [[Just Beyond Tomorrow]] - 2002 ([[Kensington]] [[Zebra]])
* [[Vixens]] - 2003 ([[Kensington]] [[Brava]])

===The Friarsgate Inheritance===
* [[Rosamund - Bertrice Small|Rosamund]] - 2002 ([[NAL]])
* [[Until You - Bertrice Small|Until You]] - 2003 ([[NAL]]/[[Signet]])
* [[Philippa]] - 2004 ([[NAL]]/[[Signet]])
* [[The Last Heiress]] - 2005 ([[NAL]])

===The World Of Hetar===
* [[Lara]] - 2006 ([[HQN]])
* [[A Distant Tomorrow]] - 2007 ([[HQN]])
* [[The Twilight Lord]] - 2007 ([[HQN]])

===The Border Chronicles ===
* [[A Dangerous Love]] - 2006 ([[NAL]])
* [[The Border Lord's Bride]] - 2007 ([[NAL]])

===The Pleasures===
* [[Private Pleasures - Bertrice Small|Private Pleasures]] - 2004 ([[NAL]])
* [[Forbidden Pleasures - Bertrice Small|Forbidden Pleasures]] - 2006 ([[NAL]])
* [[Sudden Pleasures]] - 2007 ([[NAL]])

== Awards ==
* [[2006 Career Achievement Award Winners|2006 Career Achievement Award Winner]] - [[Romantic Times Magazine]] - Historical Romance

Bertrice Small

2015-03-01T18:53:15Z

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{{DEFAULTSORT:Small, Bertrice}}[[Category:Authors - S]] [[Category:Award-Winning Authors]] [[Category:Historical Romance Authors]][[Category:HQN Authors]] [[Category:New York Authors]] [[Category:Deceased Authors]]
'''Bertrice Small''' rode in on the bodice ripping wave and continues to attract a strong fan base due to her sexy stories and old-fashioned writing style. She began her publishing career as part of the [[Avon Ladies]] group. Over the course of her career, she published over 50 historical romances.

Bertrice Small passed away on February 24, 2015 at the age of 77. [[Sarah Wendell] of [[Smart Bitches, Trashy Books]] wrote a remembrance [http://smartbitchestrashybooks.com/2015/02/bertrice-small-1937-2015/ here].

== On the Web ==
* [http://www.bertricesmall.net Bertrice Small]

== Books In Alphabetical Order==
* [[A Dangerous Love]] - 2006 ([[NAL]])
* [[A Distant Tomorrow]] - 2007 ([[HQN]])
* [[A Love For All Time - Bertrice Small|A Love For All Time]] - 1987, reprint 2001 ([[NAL]])
* [[A Memory Of Love]] - 2002 ([[Ivy Books]])
* [[A Moment In Time - Bertrice Small|A Moment In Time]] - 1991 ([[Ballantine]])
* [[All The Sweet Tomorrows]] - 1986 ([[Ballantine]])
* [[Adora]] - 1985 ([[Ballantine]])
* [[Bedazzled - Bertrice Small|Bedazzled]] - 2000 ([[Zebra]])
* [[Beloved - Bertrice Small|Beloved]] - 1985 ([[Ballantine]])
* [[Besieged - Bertrice Small|Besieged]] - 2000 ([[Zebra]])
* [[Betrayed - Bertrice Small|Betrayed]] - 1998 ([[Ivy Books]])
* [[Blaze Wyndham]] - 1988 ([[NAL]])
* [[The Border Lord's Bride|Border Lord's Bride, The]] - 2007 ([[NAL]])
* [[Darling Jasmine]] - 1998 ([[Zebra]])
* [[Deceived - Bertrice Small|Deceived]] - 1998 ([[Zebra]])
* [[The Dragon Lord's Daughters|Dragon Lord's Daughters, The]] - 2004 ([[Kensington]])
* [[The Duchess - Bertrice Small|Duchess, The]] - 2001 ([[Ballantine]])
* [[Enchantress Mine]] - 2004 ([[NAL]])
* [[Forbidden Pleasures - Bertrice Small|Forbidden Pleasures]] - 2006 ([[NAL]])
* [[Hellion]] - 1997 ([[Ivy Books]])
* [[The Innocent - Bertrice Small|Innocent, The]] - 2001 ([[Ivy Books]])
* [[Intrigued]] - 2001 ([[Zebra]])
* [[Just Beyond Tomorrow]] - 2002 ([[Zebra]])
* [[The Kadin|Kadin, The]] - 1978 ([[Avon]])
* [[Lara]] - 2006 ([[HQN]])
* [[The Last Heiress|Last Heiress, The]] - 2005 ([[NAL]])
* [[Lost Love Found]] - 1991 ([[Ballantine]])
* [[Love, Remember Me]] - 1994 ([[Ivy Books]])
* [[The Love Slave|Love Slave, The]] - 1997 ([[Ivy Books]])
* [[Love Wild And Fair]] - 1994 ([[Avon]])
* [[Philippa]] - 2004 ([[NAL]]/[[Signet]])
* [[Private Pleasures - Bertrice Small|Private Pleasures]] - 2004 ([[NAL]])
* [[Rosamund - Bertrice Small|Rosamund]] - 2002 ([[NAL]])
* [[Skye O'Malley]] - 1984 ([[Ballantine]])
* [[The Spitfire|Spitfire, The]] - 1990([[Ballantine]])
* [[Sudden Pleasures]] - 2007 ([[NAL]])
* [[This Heart Of Mine - Bertrice Small|This Heart Of Mine]] - 1988 ([[Ballantine]])
* [[To Love Again - Bertrice Small|To Love Again]] - 1993 ([[Ballantine]])
* [[The Twilight Lord|Twilight Lord, The]] - 2007 ([[HQN]])
* [[Unconquered]] - 1984 ([[Ballantine]])
* [[Until You - Bertrice Small|Until You]] - 2003 ([[NAL]]/[[Signet]])
* [[Vixens]] - 2003 ([[Kensington Brava]])
* [[Wild Jasmine - Bertrice Small|Wild Jasmine]] - 1992 ([[Ballantine]]), reprinted 1996 ([[Ivy Books]])

== Novellas ==
* "Zuleika And The Barbarian" in ''[[I Love Rogues - Anthology|I Love Rogues]]'' - 2003 ([[Kensington]] [[Brava]])
* "The Awakening" in ''[[Delighted - Anthology|Delighted]]'' - 2002 ([[Kensington]] [[Brava]])
* "Mastering Lady Lucinda" in ''[[Fascinated - Anthology|Fascinated]]'' - 2000 ([[Kensington]] [[Brava]])
* "Ecstasy" in ''[[Captivated - Anthology|Captivated]]'' - 1999 ([[Kensington]] [[Brava]])

== Series/Related Titles ==
===The O'Malley Saga===
* [[Skye O'Malley]] - 1984 ([[Ballantine]])
* [[All The Sweet Tomorrows]] - 1986 ([[Ballantine]])
* [[A Love For All Time - Bertrice Small|A Love For All Time]] - 1987 ([[NAL]])
* [[This Heart Of Mine - Bertrice Small|This Heart Of Mine]] - 1988 ([[Ballantine]])
* [[Lost Love Found]] - 1991 ([[Ballantine]])
* [[Wild Jasmine - Bertrice Small|Wild Jasmine]] - 1992 ([[Ballantine]])

===Skye's Legacy===
* [[Darling Jasmine]] - 1998 ([[Kensington]] [[Zebra]])
* [[Bedazzled - Bertrice Small|Bedazzled]] - 2000, reprint 2007 ([[Kensington]] [[Zebra]])
* [[Besieged - Bertrice Small|Besieged]] - 2000 ([[Kensington]] [[Zebra]])
* [[Intrigued]] - 2001 ([[Kensington]] [[Zebra]])
* [[Just Beyond Tomorrow]] - 2002 ([[Kensington]] [[Zebra]])
* [[Vixens]] - 2003 ([[Kensington]] [[Brava]])

===The Friarsgate Inheritance===
* [[Rosamund - Bertrice Small|Rosamund]] - 2002 ([[NAL]])
* [[Until You - Bertrice Small|Until You]] - 2003 ([[NAL]]/[[Signet]])
* [[Philippa]] - 2004 ([[NAL]]/[[Signet]])
* [[The Last Heiress]] - 2005 ([[NAL]])

===The World Of Hetar===
* [[Lara]] - 2006 ([[HQN]])
* [[A Distant Tomorrow]] - 2007 ([[HQN]])
* [[The Twilight Lord]] - 2007 ([[HQN]])

===The Border Chronicles ===
* [[A Dangerous Love]] - 2006 ([[NAL]])
* [[The Border Lord's Bride]] - 2007 ([[NAL]])

===The Pleasures===
* [[Private Pleasures - Bertrice Small|Private Pleasures]] - 2004 ([[NAL]])
* [[Forbidden Pleasures - Bertrice Small|Forbidden Pleasures]] - 2006 ([[NAL]])
* [[Sudden Pleasures]] - 2007 ([[NAL]])

== Awards ==
* [[2006 Career Achievement Award Winners|2006 Career Achievement Award Winner]] - [[Romantic Times Magazine]] - Historical Romance

Mary Stewart

2014-05-16T23:24:44Z

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[[Category:1916 Births|S]] [[Category:Deceased Authors|S]]
'''Mary Stewart''' is a popular English novelist, best known for her trilogy about Merlin, which straddles the boundary between the historical novel and the fantasy genre.
She is also the author of many crime fiction/mystery, gothic fiction and romance novels, several of which have been adapted for television and/or film. Several of her books are set in Scotland; others are set in more exotic locations such as Damascus, the Greek islands, Spain, France, Austria, etc.

She was at the height of her popularity in the 1960s and 1970s when many of her suspense and romantic novels were translated into many languages. She taught the school of John Norquay elementary for 30 to 35 years, but has now retired.

Mary Stewart was born on September 17, 1916. She passed away on May 10, 2014.

== Books ==
*''[[Madam, Will You Talk?]]''
*''Wildfire at Midnight''
*''Thunder on the Right''
*''Nine Coaches Waiting''
*[[My Brother Michael|''My Brother Michael'']]
*''The Ivy Tree''
*''The Moon-Spinners''
*''This Rough Magic''
*''Airs Above the Ground''
*''The Gabriel Hounds''
*''The Wind Off the Small Isles'' (not published in U.S.)
*''Touch Not the Cat''
*''Thornyhold''
*''Frost on the Window and other poems''
*''Stormy Petrel''
*''Rose Cottage''

Romance Wiki:Community Discussion

2014-01-02T17:08:30Z

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[[category:Help|Community Discussion]]
'''Welcome''' to a new discussion page. This page is used to discuss the general topics that don't fit on an article or user talk page. You can ask questions, discuss policies, contents, operations and technical issues of RomanceWiki. Discussions will be archived once this page gets too long.

{{Talk Page box}}

'''Note:''' The talk page (reached by clicking "discussion" tab at the top of the page) for this '''Community Discussion''' page will be used to discuss things concerning this page itself, e.g., the layout, content.

==Problems with a upload files?==

I'm trying to upload an image for an article about a book but when creating the thumbnail an error occurs. What was the problem happened? Did I made any mistake? Because the image is within the maximum size request.

==What Should We Call This?==
Yay! We have a place to talk about all those things that don't fit anywhere else. But, what should we call this discussion page? On Wikipedia, the page is called the "Village Pump." That does not sound very "romance-y" and we don't want to just copy them. I have suggested elsewhere that we call it the "Tea Room," or "Coffee House." What are your suggestions?--[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 16:02, 19 September 2007 (PDT) ''P.S. While we get the page set up, is it okay to have discussions about this page here. Once we have it going, such discussions should go to the project talk page.''

:Discussion Parlor? --[[User:Robini|Robini]] 19:49, 19 September 2007 (PDT)

::I like Parlor(y) type names, water cooler is good, Tea Room...like that. Or we could go with a Regency theme with Assembly Room(s).--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 09:56, 22 September 2007 (PDT)

:I vote for "Tea Room". --[[User:DawnBurn|DawnBurn]] 14:29, 25 September 2007 (PDT)

==Announcements?==
We could also use this for announcements although that does not seem right. Anyway, there is a new [[Help:Talk Pages]] with a question on its [[Help talk:Talk Pages]]. --[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 16:25, 19 September 2007 (PDT)

==Awards==
I think we need an award for [[User:Leigh]] and [[User:Amy]]. It is a slow day when they are not around adding/fixing hundreds of books! Thanks! --[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 15:00, 29 September 2007 (PDT)
:I second this nomination (though would also note that [[User:Kay T]] and [[User:DawnBurn]] have been equally awesome. I only glanced at the site while on vacation (apparently there's a rule against wiking while on vacation, though I did get a few interesting comments about my RW t-shirt -- wiki means "quick" in Hawaiian!), so it's just awesome to see all the new stuff and, especially, all the content clean-up. I know that Leigh is aware of the offer for a book bag (and Kay's was finally put in the mail!), so Dawn and Amy, if you're needing a bag, let me know.--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 19:48, 29 October 2007 (PDT)
::Um, I'm highly flattered. I do think Leigh & Amy should get awards for most prolific and most page additions. I believe I serve mostly as a gadfly and doing background organizational stuff which appeals to my anal retentative side without requiring new content from me. If you have extra bags, I would be honored to receive one, but I'd prefer to wait until both Leigh & Amy have been contacted because they are super duper awesome. --[[User:DawnBurn|DawnBurn]] 16:05, 30 October 2007 (PDT)
:::Wow, thanks guys :) I have to say I don't add nearly as many pages as Leigh -- I tend to get on something like adding book descriptions to Superromance pages and go and go and go until I find something else to obsess over. What I really need is wiki rehab! :) --[[User:Amy|Amy]] 18:01, 30 October 2007 (PDT)

::::Chocolate for rehab! We need chocolate! We really do appreciate all of your hard work - fixing or adding. I just know that when I first made the comment, I looked at Recent changes and there were no entries from Amy or Leigh yet that day - a slow day indeed! Sort of scary. Felt like I needed to call you to make sure you were okay. ;) And having people understand RomanceWiki well enough to do the behind the scenes stuff is so great! Thanks --[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 16:07, 1 November 2007 (PDT)

==Category: Books by Publisher ==
I have noticed that several publisher categories have been created and used on book pages for that publisher's books. This is not a bad idea, and I created a mega-category: [[:Category:Books By Publisher]]. We could add a publisher category on the book template. What do you all think? --[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 20:20, 29 October 2007 (PDT)
:Looks like we're both up late (okay, heading off to bed after this -- have to return to the Evil Empire tomorrow). I think, way back when, I might have started to categorize books by publisher, but not categories. I quickly realized that the by publisher designation might be useful, but was also unwieldy. Books by imprint -- which is closer, I think, to what you're doing here -- makes more sense. Nobody seeks "Books by Harlequin", but they do seek "Presents" (or Harlequin Presents). Just as with the author designation, it makes sense to categorize books in this way.

:I am guilty of being inconsistent in this regard (having not found my original method of categorizing books by publisher to be particularly effective). I would agitate for imprint over publisher, but publisher if imprint is unknown/not easily discernible. I am strongly in favor of offering the maximum number of options for finding content. Other thoughts?--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 23:46, 29 October 2007 (PDT)

::Yes, I would probably do book imprints since we have started to use those for Harlequin, but for Red Rose it is probably okay to just do the publisher for now. The other publisher category that had been created was for Samhain, but that was one that had been nominated for deletion, and I think you did delete it this weekend. Maybe Dawn or others will have some thoughts on this. I am not wedded to one way or the other. --[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 13:24, 30 October 2007 (PDT)

:::The reason why the Samhain page was up for deletion was because it was a double, IIRC. I'm not against [[:Category:Books By Publisher]] in that the point of RW is to help people find the books they are looking for. However, I do think [[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]]'s notes are potentially troublesome. In that what category do we use for things like Harlequin versus Blaze (Publisher versus Imprint). I think more people do look by imprint,and if each imprint category was a subset of the overarching publisher, that might be good. But we already have inconsistencies in how the imprints are named or referenced on the book pages. I'm realizing I'm not making a preference either way. Umm... yes to having the mega-category being added, and potentially yes to that being added to the template. But realizing that all previously created pages won't have and that we'll likely get duplicates of categories due to spelling/caps/inclusion of publisher and imprint or just imprint/etc. into those categories. --[[User:DawnBurn|DawnBurn]] 16:03, 30 October 2007 (PDT)

::::Darn you Dawn for practicality! Here's my thinking, for what it's worth (about what you're paying...). When I first started, I was a naive babe in the woods. I think -- and someone will surely correct me as it was a rookie error -- I named a page "Romance". It meant either Harlequin or Silhouette Romance (I can't recall), but it was a stupid page name and I'm crossing my fingers that the more organized of us have fixed it.

::::I do believe that people search more by imprint than publisher (though in the case of Harlequin, both are equally popular). If I were to do it all over, I would create a mega-category for each publisher and then a sub-category for each imprint. That would achieve the goal of making sure that information was accessible no matter how people search (and people search in ways you cannot begin to imagine -- if you're ever bored, watch a co-worker or friend or (best) mother search. It's quite stunning and also educational.

::::So I am advocating for a particular hierarchy, but also realizing that this is a huge time suck (and when it comes to the wiki, we all so many of those, right?). But...light, tunnel, all that. If someone has the energy and time to write a set of rules for categorization, I do have a resource who can help. If not, my feeling is we make this a future project while we put guidelines in place for go-forward content. Thoughts, agreements, disagreements, better ideas (you all have way better ideas than moi)...? --[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]], signed for author by [[User:DawnBurn|DawnBurn]] 16:58, 8 November 2007 (PST)

Shock, gasp! You forgot to sign your post, RomanceWiki. My thought was that this could be added to the template and as you said we could add the publisher category going forward, gradually adding to existing books as needed. What other complications are we not thinking of? One is that a category of "Avon" might contain both books, info about the publisher and authors. Does that matter? I also wonder if there is some "easy" way of doing this. At this point, as you see from the mega-category ([[:Category:Books By Publisher]]), there are both imprint categories, publisher categories, and articles with lists of books by publisher. We could also add the numbered series here if we wanted to. hmmm...--[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 13:22, 2 November 2007 (PDT)

:Replying to Kay's post, but the general thread. I have some LIMITED experience with writing code. I might be able to come up with a rule set, if we are talking about a bot. I think this thread speaks to a general "need" to clean up. There is still the [[Romance]] page, and the naming of the imprints (and their associated by the number pages) is um... random at best. But moving all of those pages (nominally annoying) and then fixing all the redirects (way more annoying) could be more easily done by a use of bot, which would then potentially allow at the same a restructuring of the mega-category to allow more searching. So, it might be of benefit to examine if from a complete overhaul instead of just 'going forward.' I'm willing to use what limited code skills I have toward this and I've considered more than once figuring out enough to write a bot that would auto add the Same Title, Multiple Author books to the Books Alpha pages (which, incidentally, I'm not fond of and are incomplete and hard to use, not that I actually have a better suggestion). Umm... short summary:

:Let's talk (here or in group chat) about how it might be best to restructure from the ground up with the use of a bot for any high repetitive tasks in cleanup.--[[User:DawnBurn|DawnBurn]] 16:58, 8 November 2007 (PST)

::Dawn, I think that someone here might have figured out how to use AWB (from Wikipedia) to do some repetitive tasks, and I have wanted to learn but am afraid. :) One of the problems of thinking or talking about a mega-category and the category tree structure is that there is no good way of seeing that structure on the wiki. That even drives me crazy on the [[RomanceWiki:Category Index]] -- hard to show the structure. At one point (many moons ago) I had dumped all the categories into Excel and then made the structure more obvious. How would you suggest we do a restructure? Should we move this to the category index talk page?--[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 13:43, 9 November 2007 (PST)

== Traffic Analysis ==
Before I go back and read what Kay and Dawn are discussing above (lot of words, little coffee), I'll introduce a new idea for those of you who love to waste time on research. When I have time, I like to focus on building up content related to search phrases used to bring (see recent pages for [[Anne Weale]] and [[Sara Seale]] as examples). I've pulled out the approximately [[Top 20 Search Phrases]] that our readers are using (note: this list is edited to toss out things like "romancewiki"). If you're looking for hours of fun, adding content to these pages is the way to go!--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 10:12, 10 November 2007 (PST)

== Discussion Options ==
To make the discussions about structure and content more efficient, I am wondering if we need to create a list, forum, blog (which, yes, is still high on my list -- just waiting for tech guy to add Kay's category page. I am turning into quite the nag on that).--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 10:12, 10 November 2007 (PST)

==Publishers and Books with Same Name==
I've encountered another problem with creating disambiguation pages - books that have the same name as a publisher or imprint. Some examples:
* [[Splendor]] and [[Temptation]] - imprint pages to which another user has added information about a book (sigh)
* [[Genesis]] (publisher) and [[Genesis (CP)]] (book)
Should we create a disambig page listing both the books and imprint (and if so, do the imprint pages need to be moved to "Title - Imprint" -- as we renamed similar anthology pages "Title - Anthology")? The problem with that, of course, is that a ton of links to that imprint will have be changed. Does anyone have a better solution? --[[User:Amy|Amy]] 19:47, 30 November 2007 (PST)

:Funny you should mention this as I encountered this situation this week. In my case, because there were so few links to deal with, I changed the publisher name to the full title. However, since someone (me, I'm ashamed to admit) started off calling Temptation, Temptation, there are far too many links to change (though, I can ask my husband's assistant to do that if we choose to got that route -- she has the, as they say, bandwidth).

:I admit that I like the idea of adding imprints to the disambiguation pages. Sick I know. I am willing to manage the task of dealing with the Temptation and Splendor links (first) if we agree that this is the optimal solution. I'm going to ping Leigh, Kay, and Dawn to weigh in.--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 21:05, 30 November 2007 (PST)

::Sorry, I have not been around lately! I have to say that I like the solution of having the imprint on the disamb page. Of course, thinking about the consequences of this is rather mind-boggling. If we moved '''Temptation''' the imprint to a page called '''Harlequin Temptation''' the the links would automatically redirect. But if we then wanted to make a disamb page called '''Temptation''' we would have to change all the links (I am not sure if that is even doable without a bot, has your "assistant" figured out bots?). I suppose we could call the disamb page '''Temptation (disambiguation)'''?? Don't really have my wiki-hat on right now. In the short term we could just make the book pages with the author's name, a disamb page called '''Temptation (disambiguation)''' and ?? --[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 15:52, 4 December 2007 (PST)

:::Actually, I'm more than halfway through making the page changes (I had some client downtime this week and am taking full advantage of this brief respite!); however, making the change through the database was option two. In fact, I was in the process of writing the rules for this when I realized I was going to be done with the project before I could turn it over. So I'm thinking that when this done (today or tomorrow), I'll contact Amy and she can her piece, I'll do my piece (moving a few authors), and we can add the '''Temptation''' imprint to the disambiguation page. I like that this makes the disambig concept more complete. I like complete.

:::I'm hoping the Genesis project is much smaller, otherwise, I'll go with making the changes on the database side (or, if you will the "bot" solution).--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 11:25, 5 December 2007 (PST)

::::So I haven't been around (just started a new job and didn't see my talk page), but I just wanted to briefly say that I like the idea of having moved the '''Temptation''' to '''Harlequin Temptation'''. And I do think a bot solution could be done (still on my list of things to do is to play with a bot) since it would be a matter of changing all the pages (mostly) that link there. So, in general, I support fuller Imprint Article Titles (Publisher Imprint). --[[User:DawnBurn|DawnBurn]] 11:35, 7 December 2007 (PST)

:::::Kassia, thanks for taking care of the Temptation thing. Fixing [[Splendor]] and [[Genesis]] will much, much shorter since only a couple pages link to them. In fact, I should get [[Splendor]] done tonight. --[[User:Amy|Amy]] 16:37, 10 December 2007 (PST)

::::::Then there's the final one to look at: Desire. It's on my mental radar rather than active radar since the schedule is much tighter this week.--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 19:50, 11 December 2007 (PST)

==Author Page Help==
Hi, this is Lillith Payne. I'm new here and confused!
I set up a basic page and can open it and print it.
I CAN'T OPEN IT FROM THE AUTHOR LIST!
If anyone can give me simple directions to correct this I'd appreciate it.
My thanks, Lillith
:Hi Lillith. Looks like you edited your user page [[User:Lillith Payne]] with your info but didn't create an actual wiki page. I've gone ahead and started one at [[Lillith Payne]] with the info from your user page and added you to the author list so you should be good to go. --[[User:Amy|Amy]] 15:15, 16 January 2008 (PST)

Hi Amy,
Thank you so much for your help. I found the process completely frustrating not being able to find the fix. When I logged on today I knew I must have found a guardian angel. Consider me your random act of kindness for the week. Lillith
:No problem Lillith, glad to help :) --[[User:Amy|Amy]] 14:44, 17 January 2008 (PST)

Hi, My name is Mahalia. I signed up to make a author page for myself but in the url it says User.Mahalia Levey and isn't popping up on google. My mentor has his name to the left in the wiki romance logo. What did I do wrong? Thanks

:Hi Mahalia, You created your author page on your user page. I am not an author, just a romance novel enthusiast so my user page has what I'm updating on this site. The following is a link to your AUTHOR PAGE: [[Mahalia Levey]]. The following is a link to your USER PAGE [[User:Mahalia Levey]]. See the difference in the links? I've moved the information you put on your USER PAGE to your AUTHOR PAGE, so you should be good.--[[User:Greenstrawberry1982|Greenstrawberry1982]] 00:28, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

::Thank you so much Greenstrawberrry1982 How do I add to it when I have more news? Also is there a link for setting up an author page? Others are asking me where to find how to set up an author page. Thank you so much for helping me so quickly. I saw the dif in the links, I just didn't know where to go to fill out more info on the author link.

::: ANSWERS:
::: Question 1: ''How do I add to it when I have more news?''
::: Answer 1: Step 1. Sign in to romancewiki.com.
:::: Step 2: Using the romancewiki search function, search for your name (i.e.''Mahalia Levey''). In the research results, click on the link to your page. You could also go to the author lists, find your name and click on it.
:::: Step 3: At the top of your author page there are tabs labeled: ''page, discussion, edit, history, move, watch''. Click the ''edit'' tab and start adding editing your author page. (FYI, If you don't sign in to romancewiki first the ''edit'' tab will be replaced with a tab labeled ''source.'' this allows you to view the text you previously wrote but not to change it).
:::: Note: At this point it would be good to watch your author page by clicking on the ''watch'' tab at the top of your author page. The watch tab adds your author page to your ''my watchlist.'' Whenever you sign-in in the future, click your ''my watchlist'' link at the upper right-hand corner. If a page you are watching has been changed since you last visited, you will see it on your ''my watchlist.'' You can also have romancewiki email you when someone other than yourself makes any changes to your any pages you are watching (go to your ''my preferences'' link, seen at the upper right-hand corner of the page. to enable this function). After clicking on the watch tab. the tab should change to ''unwatch''. FYI, you can do this for any page you are interested in (i.e. your book pages). If you have already done this, great!

::: Question 2: ''Also is there a link for setting up an author page?''
::: Answer 2: Look to the left-hand column of this website and click on the ''Help'' link, Look for the section ''Editing Romancewiki'' and look in that section for the link to ''Author Pages''. The link gives you step-by-step instructions on how to setup an author page and provides a template.

::: You also might want to set-up the ability for other uses of romancewiki to be able to e-mail you. I would have e-mailed you telling you I had posted an answer for you (go to you ''my preferences'' link to enable this function). Note: I will not know your e-mail address. the function just enables me to send a message to you via romancewiki (romancewiki is actually the one that send my message to you).
:::: Hope my answers helped.--[[User:Greenstrawberry1982|Greenstrawberry1982]] 18:42, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

:::::Thank you so much. yes they did. I am not a big techy person so learning codes or how to do things is the bane of my existence. You've done so much to help and I really appreciate it.

Hi! My name is Annie Alvarez and I seem to have the same problem as Mahalia. I set up an author page, but when I click on it from the Authors list, it says my page hasn't been written, yet. I know I wrote it, I can see it when I log in. What did I do wrong? Thanks.

:Seems like you solved your own problem. Good work!--[[User:Greenstrawberry1982|Greenstrawberry1982]] 18:20, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

== RW Workflow ==
Rather than post this on my personal page (which I'm sure is out there somewhere!), I just thought I'd give a quick update about the big content stuff in progress (especially since Amy and Leigh are going gangbusters!). I'm adding author pages for all the [[Silhouette Romance]] authors and will do the by the numbers pages if someone doesn't beat me to it (I have all the content ready to roll when I get that far in my file). After that, I will go back and add the author pages for [[Harlequin Temptation]] authors. For some bizarre reason -- old age, probably -- I did the by the numbers pages, but never did all the work for each author. Quite a few have already been created by others, so I'll be filling in the gaps there. Phew!

On a go-forward basis, I am building a whole slate of author pages for various category lines. This is going alphabetically by author and should take a good long time. However, we'll have a huge database of romance authors with the best biographical information I can find (and yeah, if you know stuff I don't...). After that, I'll need to come up with a game plan for the rest of the bunch, but since I'm still on the "A" list of authors, I'm not rushing there.

To add some color, especially for older authors without much information, I'm also tracking down at least one halfway decent cover image. If anyone needs me to work on something else, just give a shout-out. Since this current workplan is so huge, I don't mind getting sidetracked a bit.

Also, I'm thinking we need to give some love to writing romance -- anyone know anyone who might be a great resource for this?--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 21:30, 24 January 2008 (PST)

:"''give some love to writing romance''"

:What did you have in mind here RW? Good game plan, I somehow missed this when I was here the other day. --[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 17:46, 2 February 2008 (PST)

::Specifically, I referring to building a good, strong writer resource section. I know we have some bits and pieces here and there, but it would be terrific to have an organized section. It's really the one area where we haven't made inroads, content-wise. It's on my long-term mental plan of things to do, but given my current workplan, it's a seriously future deal.--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 21:09, 6 February 2008 (PST)

:::Yes, we could use some more here. Just for future reference, I have tried to keep up lists and links on the [[Resources]] page and in the [[:category:Romance Resources]]. --[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 21:08, 7 February 2008 (PST)

==Publisher's lines, numbered series==
Leigh has been busy cleaning up the pages that contain lists of books in publisher's lines. Proactively, should we have a section in the [[Help:Style Manual|style manual]] that says something like:

'''Publisher Imprints & Lines''' 
When creating a page for a publisher's imprint, for example, [[Intimate Moments]], it is best to include the name of the publisher in the title, [[Silhouette Intimate Moments]]. This makes it clearer that the article is about an imprint or line and not about a book with that title.

What do we think?? --[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 11:49, 31 January 2008 (PST)
: That sounds like a good idea to me. --[[User:Leigh|Leigh]]
::I am in agreement with Leigh (who has been doing amazing work lately!). As noted above, I am doing loads and loads of author pages (which will be added to wiki as I get through the previous things -- there is something about having a queue that makes me excited), and I am using the publisher pages as guidelines when I create my links.

::If Leigh needs to push some mindless content clean-up my way, just say the word. There are days when I need to put the brain on auto-pilot (especially lately...if only I had the time to do so!). ''And'' the husband's assistant is available for projects -- she's super tech savvy and has done a few wiki projects already. Wiki projects are not highest priority (!@@#$ men!), but tell me if there's something that you can't get to.--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 20:58, 31 January 2008 (PST)

{{done}}
--[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 17:52, 2 February 2008 (PST)
::Kay -- I love the little graphics. They make me smile!--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 20:43, 6 February 2008 (PST)

:::Yes, it is so perky! Hope your temporary dislocation is going okay, and you have found some books to read! even if you weren't dislocated we are in a dry spell, I think. --[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 21:08, 7 February 2008 (PST)

==Author Page Help==
Hi, my name is Cheryl A. Cornell. I set up a new page for myself yesterday, 2/9/08 for my first published novel, Treasure Found through The Wild Rose Press. Thought I followed the directions but I'm not showing up on the author list. If anyone has any ideas what I did wrong or how to fix it I'd appreciate any information you can give. I believed I edited the page but wasn't able to create it. Thanks to anyone who can help, Cheryl 10:35AM 2-10-08

*I'm not sure if there was some database funkiness, or if you actually set up your info on your user page by mistake. User pages are different than author pages, because not every wiki user is an author - I've got a user page frex., but I'm just an editor. Anyways, I went ahead and added a page for you in the actual content of the wiki (user page "space" is different) and filled out the sorting/listing stuff for you. Your page can be found at [[Cheryl A. Cornell]], and I filled out what I could of the Standard wiki template. You can edit it as you see fit, and delete the sections that don't apply to you (like pseudonyms). Also, if you click on the link for your book, I've loaded the books page template onto that page. You can click "edit" and fill out the info for your book, specifically. --[[User:Robini|Robini]] 13:37, 10 February 2008 (PST)

==Thanks for Author Help==
Hi Robini,
Thanks for your help getting this straight and posted. I truly appreciate
you giving me your time and knowledge; as you can tell this is beyond what my brain can compute. It's nice to be in a place where people actually help each other. I appreciate the welcome, Cheryl 2/11/08 9:52AM

== HQ Series Numbering Discussion ==
Hi Teresa, I'm pasting your question below first, then trying to answer the question (I'm still out of town ... and down with a nasty cold, so if I'm incoherent, excuse me):
<blockquote>I have resently downloaded the Presents and Romance by the number pages to have a complete list of the titles. The problem i'm having is that there seems to be 2 seperate and distince collections in both. I don't understand how this is possible. Is there someplace else i can find the alternate lists?</blockquote>
What we're using here at the RomanceWiki is the US numbering system. The lines are also released in other countries, so that might account for differences. Or there is (always) the possibility of user error -- especially when it comes to the very early [[Harlequin Romance]] titles as I had to do a lot of digging to find those titles (and, yeah, I've whined to the Harlequin people about this, but I suspect they don't have a database going back to day one either).

If you're finding differences, I'd appreciate it if you brought them to my attention, or, since [[:User:Leigh|Leigh]] has been uber-terrific about adding content to these sections, her. We definitely want to get it right!--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 17:26, 11 March 2008 (PDT)
: It looks like Harlequin released some Romance and Presents titles to subscribers only in the late 80s/90s. The numbering for these books began again at 1 rather than fitting into the numbers of the retail books, creating a second set of Romance and Presents books whose numbers were significantly lower than the regular ones released at the same time, even though there doesn't seem to be much difference in their covers or content. We probably should add pages for these lists too, but I don't know what they should be called. --[[User:Leigh|Leigh]]

::Okay, I do have those subscription listings in my (extremely long) queue! I am adding the word "Subscription" to the end of the imprint name (ie, Harlequin Romance Subscription By The Numbers, etc). Since it's going to be a while before I upload these lists (I have found -- don't call me a slow learn (g) -- that if I do the author listings ''before'' I do the By The Numbers pages, I can correct for many of the "same title, multiple author" scenarios without having to do a lot of rework), if someone wants to start these listings now, just follow the above syntax so things will line up nicely with the categories. If for some reason it's deemed that a better title would work, just let me know and I'll do a search and replace in my text file (it won't be the first, nor the last!).--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 15:22, 13 March 2008 (PDT)
:::I went ahead and started the pages. I'll add the titles ASAP. --[[User:Leigh|Leigh]]

==Vintage Romance Novels - best places to find==
I collect vintage Gothic Romance and Romantic Suspense novels (and have fallen in love with adding them here) but anyway back to the point - I used to be able to pick these up quite easily at books sales, garage sales, and flea markets. But not anymore they are becoming harder and harder to find. The only place I can usually get them at consistently is at Ebay. I have found another site that is fun that does have a lot of vintage novels on it and I am picking up quite a few of the [[Mystique]] books that I don't have there. It is [http://paperbackswap.com Paper Back Swap] - I've found it useful to list my duplicates. So the question is - what other resources do you guys use?? Anyone else know of other websites that you can get vintage paperbacks on at a reasonable price?? --[[User:Devilbuny|Devilbuny]] 05:10, 20 May 2008 (PDT)
:I don't buy as many vintage romances as I used to, though I have a weakness for 1950's era medical romances -- which I pick up at a vintage bookstore when I get out that way (my schedule is too insane to contemplate trying eBay or other sources). I think there used to be a group called Bookstore Junkies (might want to check Yahoogroups) that was a terrific resource for swaps.

:You might want to set up a page for other readers who are looking for great sources for classic books...I'm sure there are lots of great resources out there!--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 20:11, 20 May 2008 (PDT)

==What style for anthologies?==
Hello! I'm a little confused about which style to use for anthologies. I've seen different styles [[A Gift Of Love - Anthology]], [[Taming Him - Anthology]] (and also creating some by myself :( [[A Holiday Of Love]], [[Upon A Midnight Clear - Anthology]]) and before I change them, I would like to know if there's a prefered style? And if so, could someone please include the style into the book template? And should I treat the novellas like book titels by creating a link (and later an own page)? [[User:Sweety1746|Sweety1746]] 05:56, 1 October 2008 (PDT)

: I believe the style is still being debated. As I think about it, my personal preference is to omit the word "Anthology" from the page title. However, it makes sense to add it in those instances where you encounter multiple books with the same title (in keeping with the style guide of adding the author names in these situations). I am open to opinions, of course. I don't create a lot of book entries, so would like to hear from those who focus on that area.

: Novellas are tricky because it's sometimes hard to distinguish them from short stories. I tend to be more traditional style guide in this regard, creating a book page for the entire book and including information about each individual story on that page. On the author pages (and I admit I've changed my mind since the early days of adding content), I go with this approach:
:: <nowiki>* "Tame, Tame, Tame", ''[[Taming Him]]'' - 2008 ([[Publisher]]), with [[other author]], [[other author]] (if other authors are applicable</nowiki>
--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 17:46, 3 October 2008 (PDT)

==Lists by last name and first name==
I need some help with this lists by surname and subname and such. I hope I can correctly explain what I mean. So, first let's see if I got all this lists right: 1. There are lists (i.e. [[Authors - C]]), in which the authors are sorted by their last name (surname), but I have to add an author by hand. I use this if I just can recall the last name of an author.
2. Lists, that sort the authors by first names within all authors with the same initial of the last name (i.e. [http://www.romancewiki.com/Category:Authors_-_C]). Here the author appears automatically when I put the right category on the author's page. This list is useful if I can remember an author's first name, but am not sure about the last name (though I can exclude some possibilities).
So what is the line "DEFAULTSORT:Last name, First name" in the author template good for? If I use it, the author will be sorted by the last name in the 2. list, which makes no sense according to the discription on page "Category:Authors By Subname".
And by the way, what is a "subname"? I coudn't find a translation or definition anywhere.[[User:Sweety1746|Sweety1746]] 07:11, 1 October 2008 (PDT)
: Here is the rule of thumb for these lists:
: # The alphabetical author pages are straight alpha listings, done, as you've noted manually. People search for content in multiple ways. These author listings (which I always use as my starting point when I add a new author page) are a convenience. They should be alphabetical by last name, first name.
: # The category listings relate to question three. Categories are very cool for slicing and dicing content. However...
: # If you do not use the DEFAULTSORT option, then the names do not properly alphabetize on the page. DEFAULTSORT tells the software to use X order when displaying the content within the categories. Default sort Wiki, Romance places the information in the "W" area. Default sort Romance Wiki places it in the "R" area. It's preferable to have authors sort by last and first (it just looks better that way). I also use DEFAULTSORT with books whose titles begin with articles:
:: <nowiki>{{DEFAULTSORT:Spy Who Loved Me, The}}</nowiki>
: So, items two and three work hand-in-hand. Since item one is a manually generated list, it's up to the user to get the information in the right place. Does all this make sense, or have I muddied the waters even more? --[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 17:38, 3 October 2008 (PDT)
::Ok, thanks so far, but I think I'm still trying to figure out the "aim" of this lists created by using DEFAULTSORT. I created a page for Gayle Callen and naturally I added "Category:Authors - C" so she is in the right category. There, without using DEFAULSORT, she is in the "G" area after Gay Cameron (although Callen alphabethically comes before Cameron). And that's how I understand it should be according to the description on the general page (http://www.romancewiki.com/Category:Authors_By_Subname). Quote: "In the Subcategories below the authors are alphabetized by their first names, i.e., an author named Amy Andrews will appear before Anne Anderson." In this example, both authors are listed in category A because of their last name and in the "A" area because of their first name. And if there's an author named Mary Andrews, she will be also in category A, but in the "M" area, ''won't she''? (question#1)
::But if I use DEFAULTSORT for my author, she is listed by her last name and appears as "Gaylen Callen" (first name - last name) in the "C" area. Only when there is another author with last name "Callen", they will be alphabetized by their first names. So, if I use DEFAULTSORT for all authors whose last names beginn with "C", there will be no subdividing into different areas in category C because all authors will be listed by their last names and so appear in the same area? (question#2) And then the example on the general page isn't correct!
::And, considerin all things, using DEFAULTSORT will automatically create a list without areas and only (no offence) because the style "first name - last name" doesn't look good and maybe isn't good to search through there are these other "handmade" lists "last name - first name"? (question#3)
::Please, let the answers to all three questions always be: "Correct!" :)

::: The description of the subcategories versus articles is incorrect.The [[:Category:Authors By Subname|Authors By Subname]] is automatically generated to pick up both categorized content and articles (which is really a redundant concept if all authors have been, at least, categorized correctly -- not everyone updates the manual list). Using DEFAULTSORT correctly alphabetizes authors by last, first no matter which category they're in, so I prefer it that way (and, if I recall correctly, [[:User:Kay T]] did a lot of work to fix missing DEFAULTS. It looks like it's time to clean up other entries again.
::: Getting closer to answering your question?
:::: Yeah, thanks. Now I understand the concept and will use DEFAULTSORT myself and add it on pages where it's still missing.

==Why do we have two or more of the same category?==

As I was starting to edit a couple of author pages, I noticed two or more of the same category.

Nora Roberts' page has Category: Writers who use Pen Names (which is a redirect to Category: Authors With Pseudonyms). I understand there being a category for Authors With Multiple Identities (if he or she has more than one pseudonym), but why the use of a redirect for the Pen Name? Should both be added to an author's page? Should one be added to the author's pseudonym page?

I'm just wondering what should be used since I'm adding an author's pen name to her page. It's funny how this author's pen name is mentioned on Wikipedia, but not on here. her pen name's books are listed on here, as well as some quotes, but no connection to the author - odd. --[[User:CreativeSoul7981|CreativeSoul7981]] 12:50, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

: Sometimes it's a matter of semantics (I prefer pseudonym, someone else prefers pen name). I tend to clean up this kind of double-tagging when I encounter it because it's confusing (redundant tagging is not bad thing as people do use different terminology, and it's good to offer alternatives when they make sense).

: I agree with RomanceWiki.--[[User:Greenstrawberry1982|Greenstrawberry1982]] 06:09, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

==Another Book With the Same Title==
I started to add a new book to my page. I added the brackets, but when I went to edit/create that page for that book, there was already another book listed with the same title. How can I add my book? Thanks!
[[User:Linda Mooney|Linda Mooney]] 23:43, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

: See [[Help:Same Title Multiple Authors]] for instructions.--[[User:Greenstrawberry1982|Greenstrawberry1982]] 01:04, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

==UK Series Numbers==

Do UK Mills & Boon Books have series numbers anymore? If so, does anyone have a site that actually says what they are? The UK Mills & Boon Website does not say.--[[User:Greenstrawberry1982|Greenstrawberry1982]] 14:32, 24 June 2011 (PDT)

==Error Creating Thumbnaill==

I've been uploading some book covers and whilst the picture has downloaded, on the page created for the book it says 'thumbnail error' instead of showing the downloaded image. Not had this problem before, don't know why it's happened or how to fix it. Help!

--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 12:59, 26 February 2013 (PST)I'm not sure why this is happening, but I did notice there were quite a few of these errors when I was cleaning up unused images. It appeared the upload to the site didn't happen properly, but I'll ask the tech dude to check into this to see if there is something weird going on. Can you send me a link to a page that is having this problem?

Here's a link to two of the pages, thanks. http://www.romancewiki.com/Tangle_In_Sunshine
http://www.romancewiki.com/Young_Tracy

Still working on this, but one fix is in place. On Young Tracy, it appears the files aren't uploaded. I can access one of the Tangle in Sunshines. Sorry for being so frustrating on this issue, but there may be multiple issues (first fix seems to address a problem with the webhost). Can you try re-uploading the Young Tracy files? Hoping to see some success! --[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 20:00, 3 March 2013 (PST)

Had a go at uploading Young Tracy again, still has the thumbnail error. Thanks.

Is there any way around this thumbnail issue? Would love to do more pages but would feel it's a waste of time if this is still going to be an issue. 1 April 2013

* Still working on a solution. It's a problem on the webhost side, not on the software side. Every time I feel like it's been solved, I discover a new problem. Really, really annoying. Will let you know once it's fixed.--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 14:44, 1 April 2013 (PDT)

== Thumbnail Error - Is there any fix? ==
I read the item on thumbnail error but I do not see the fix. I tried several times to upload it but keep getting the same error message even though I can clearly see my book cover when I click on the link. Please let me know what I can do. My author name is Ruth A. Casie. The book is The Guardian's Witch.
--[[User:RuthACasie|RuthACasie]] ([[User talk:RuthACasie|talk]]) 08:22, 15 May 2013 (PDT)11:22, 15 May 2013 (EST)

There is a problem with the image upload. We've been working for months to get this fixed, and every time I think it's done, something happens. The image is there, and properly attached to the page, but won't display until this problem is finally resolved. Very, very frustrating!

Ida Pollock

2013-12-09T20:29:18Z

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{{DEFAULTSORT:Pollock, Ida}}
[[Category:Authors - P]] [[Category:1908 Births]] [[Category:Mills and Boon Authors]] [[Category:Authors With Multiple Identities]] [[Category:Deceased Authors]]

'''Ida Pollock''', née ''Crowe'' (born 12 April 1908 in Lewisham, Kent, England), is a British writer of several short-stories and over a hundred romance novels under her married name, Ida Pollock, and under her numerous pseudonyms: [[Susan Barrie]], [[Pamela Kent]], [[Averil Ives]], [[Anita Charles]], [[Barbara Rowan]], [[Jane Beaufort]], [[Rose Burghley]], [[Mary Whistler]] and [[Marguerite Bell]]. She published over 70 novels for [[Mills and Boon|Mills & Boon]].

She worked in London during the Blitz, and took up writing to support her family. Pollock married Hugh Pollock, who was previously married to British author Enid Blyton. Her daughter [[Rosemary Pollock]] is also a romance author.

Ida Pollock passed away on December 3, 2013 at the age of 105. She published 125 novels over the course of her career, including two published posthumously.

==Books==
* [[Country Air|''Country Air'']] - August, 1970
* [[The Gentle Masquerade|''Gentle Masquerade, The'']] - 1964
* [[Lady in Danger|''Lady in Danger'']] - 1967
* [[Summer Conspiracy|''Summer Conspiracy'']] - 1969
* [[The Uneasy Alliance|''Uneasy Alliance, The'']] - 1965

==On the Web==
* [http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wireStory/romance-novelist-ida-pollock-dies-105-21147368 Ida Pollock Dies at 105]

Judy Christenberry

2013-11-11T19:50:56Z

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== Biography ==
[[Judy Christenberry]], a Texas-based author, published her first novel, [[The Notorious Widow]], a [[Regency]] romance, in 1988. Her series about the Randall Family crossed [[Harlequin]] imprints. She also taught high school French.

Christenberry published over 100 novels. As an author for [[Harlequin American Romance]], [[Judy Christenberry]] published 36 books. She published one title for the [[Harlequin Romance]] imprint. She has published two titles for the [[Harlequin Intrigue]] imprint. She wrote 21 titles for the [[Silhouette Romance]] line.

Judy Christenberry passed away on November 8, 2013.

== Books ==
* [[The $10,000,000 Texas Wedding|''$10,000,000 Texas Wedding, The'']] - [[Harlequin American Romance By The Numbers|Harlequin American Romance #842 ]] - September 2000
* [[Baby 2000|''Baby 2000'']] - [[Harlequin American Romance By The Numbers|Harlequin American Romance #802 ]] - December 1999
* ''[[Baby In Her Arms - Judy Christenberry|Baby In Her Arms]]'' - February 1999 ([[Silhouette Romance By The Numbers|Silhouette Romance #1350]])
* ''[[Beauty And The Beastly Rancher|Beauty & The Beastly Rancher]]'' - August 2003 ([[Silhouette Romance By The Numbers|Silhouette Romance #1678]])
* ''[[The Borrowed Groom|Borrowed Groom, The]]'' - July 2000 ([[Silhouette Romance By The Numbers|Silhouette Romance #1457]])
* ''[[The Bride's Best Man|Bride's Best Man, The]]'' - July 2006 ([[Silhouette Romance By The Numbers|Silhouette Romance #1823]])
* ''[[Cherish The Boss]]'' - August 2000 ([[Silhouette Romance By The Numbers|Silhouette Romance #1463]])
* [[A Cowboy At Heart|''Cowboy at Heart, A'']] - [[Harlequin American Romance By The Numbers|Harlequin American Romance #726 ]] - May 1998
* [[Cowboy Come Home|''Cowboy Come Home'']] - [[Harlequin American Romance By The Numbers|Harlequin American Romance #744 ]] - September 1998
* [[Cowboy Cupid|''Cowboy Cupid'']] - [[Harlequin American Romance By The Numbers|Harlequin American Romance #649 ]] - October 1996
* [[Cowboy Daddy|''Cowboy Daddy'']] - [[Harlequin American Romance By The Numbers|Harlequin American Romance #653 ]] - November 1996
* [[Cowboy Groom|''Cowboy Groom'']] - [[Harlequin American Romance By The Numbers|Harlequin American Romance #661 ]] - January 1997
* [[Cowboy Santa|''Cowboy Santa'']] - [[Harlequin American Romance By The Numbers|Harlequin American Romance #755 ]] - December 1998
* [[Cowboy Surrender|''Cowboy Surrender'']] - [[Harlequin American Romance By The Numbers|Harlequin American Romance #665 ]] - February 1997
* [[Daddy On Demand - Judy Christenberry|''Daddy on Demand'']] - [[Harlequin American Romance By The Numbers|Harlequin American Romance #626 ]] - April 1996
* ''[[Daddy On The Doorstep]]'' - April 2003 ([[Silhouette Romance By The Numbers|Silhouette Romance #1654]])
* [[Daddy Unknown|''Daddy Unknown'']] - [[Harlequin American Romance By The Numbers|Harlequin American Romance #781 ]] - July 1999
* ''[[Finding A Family]]'' - April 2005 ([[Silhouette Romance By The Numbers|Silhouette Romance #1762]])
* [[Finding Daddy|''Finding Daddy'']] - [[Harlequin American Romance By The Numbers|Harlequin American Romance #555 ]] - October 1994
* [[The Great Texas Wedding Bargain|''Great Texas Wedding Bargain, The'']] - [[Harlequin American Romance By The Numbers|Harlequin American Romance #817 ]] - March 2000
* [[Her Christmas Wedding Wish|''Her Christmas Wedding Wish'']] - November, 2006 [[Harlequin Romance By The Numbers|Harlequin Romance #3915]]
* ''[[Honeymoon Hunt]]'' - February 2006 ([[Silhouette Romance By The Numbers|Silhouette Romance #1803]])
* [[In Papa Bear's Bed|''In Papa Bear's Bed'']] - [[Harlequin American Romance By The Numbers|Harlequin American Romance #701 ]] - November 1997
* ''[[The Last Crawford Bachelor|Last Crawford Bachelor, The]]'' - April 2004 ([[Silhouette Romance By The Numbers|Silhouette Romance #1715]])
* [[The Last Stubborn Cowboy|''Last Stubborn Cowboy, The'']] - [[Harlequin American Romance By The Numbers|Harlequin American Romance #785 ]] - August 1999
* ''[[Least Likely To Wed]]'' - February 2002 ([[Silhouette Romance By The Numbers|Silhouette Romance #1570]])
* ''[[Marry Me, Kate]]'' - January 1999 ([[Silhouette Romance By The Numbers|Silhouette Romance #1344]])
* ''[[My Daddy The Duke]]'' - [[Harlequin American Romance By The Numbers|Harlequin American Romance #735 ]] - July 1998
* ''[[Never Let You Go]]'' - June 2000 ([[Silhouette Romance By The Numbers|Silhouette Romance #1453]])
* ''[[Newborn Daddy]]'' - April 2001 ([[Silhouette Romance By The Numbers|Silhouette Romance #1511]])
* ''[[The Nine-Month Bride|Nine-Month Bride, The]]'' - October 1998 ([[Silhouette Romance By The Numbers|Silhouette Romance #1324]])
* [[One Hot Daddy-To-Be?|''One Hot Daddy-to-Be?'']] - [[Harlequin American Romance By The Numbers|Harlequin American Romance #773 ]] - May 1999
* [[Patchwork Family|''Patchwork Family'']] - [[Harlequin American Romance By The Numbers|Harlequin American Romance #853 ]] - December 2000
* [[Rachel's Cowboy|''Rachel's Cowboy'']] - [[Harlequin American Romance By The Numbers|Harlequin American Romance #1058 ]] - March 2005
* ''[[The Rancher Takes A Family|Rancher Takes A Family, The]]'' - September 2006 ([[Silhouette Romance By The Numbers|Silhouette Romance #1830]])
* [[Randall Honor|''Randall Honor'']] - [[Harlequin American Romance By The Numbers|Harlequin American Romance #930 ]] - July 2002
* ''[[Randall On The Run]]'' - December 2005 [[Harlequin Intrigue By The Numbers|Harlequin Intrigue # 887]]
* [[Randall Pride|''Randall Pride'']] - [[Harlequin American Romance By The Numbers|Harlequin American Romance #885 ]] - August 2001
* [[A Randall Returns|''Randall Returns, A'']] - [[Harlequin American Romance By The Numbers|Harlequin American Romance #1000 ]] - December 2003
* [[Randall Riches|''Randall Riches'']] - [[Harlequin American Romance By The Numbers|Harlequin American Romance #918 ]] - April 2002
* ''[[Randall Renegade]]'' - October 2003 [[Harlequin Intrigue By The Numbers|Harlequin Intrigue # 731]]
* [[A Randall Thanksgiving|''Randall Thanksgiving, A'']] - [[Harlequin American Romance By The Numbers|Harlequin American Romance #1133 ]] - October 2006
* [[Randall Wedding|''Randall Wedding'']] - [[Harlequin American Romance By The Numbers|Harlequin American Romance #950 ]] - December 2002
* [[Rebecca's Little Secret|''Rebecca's Little Secret'']] - [[Harlequin American Romance By The Numbers|Harlequin American Romance #1033 ]] - September 2004
* [[Rent A Millionaire Groom|''Rent a Millionaire Groom'']] - [[Harlequin American Romance By The Numbers|Harlequin American Romance #867 ]] - March 2001
* ''[[A Ring For Cinderella|Ring For Cinderella]]'' - March 1999 ([[Silhouette Romance By The Numbers|Silhouette Romance #1356]])
* [[Saved By A Texas-Sized Wedding|''Saved by a Texas-Sized Wedding'']] - [[Harlequin American Romance By The Numbers|Harlequin American Romance #969 ]] - May 2003
* ''[[Snowbound Sweetheart]]'' - October 2000 ([[Silhouette Romance By The Numbers|Silhouette Romance #1476]])
* [[A Soldier's Return|''Soldier's Return, A'']] - [[Harlequin American Romance By The Numbers|Harlequin American Romance #1073 ]] - July 2005
* [[Struck By The Texas Matchmakers|''Struck by the Texas Matchmakers'']] - [[Harlequin American Romance By The Numbers|Harlequin American Romance #878 ]] - June 2001
* [[Surprise -- You're A Daddy|''Surprise -- You're a Daddy'']] - [[Harlequin American Romance By The Numbers|Harlequin American Romance #777 ]] - June 1999
* ''[[The Texan's Reluctant Bride|Texan's Reluctant Bride, The]]'' - August 2005 ([[Silhouette Romance By The Numbers|Silhouette Romance #1778]])
* ''[[The Texan's Suite Romance|Texan's Suite Romance, The]]'' - October 2005 ([[Silhouette Romance By The Numbers|Silhouette Romance #1787]])
* ''[[The Texan's Tiny Dilemma|Texan's Tiny Dilemma, The]]'' - September 2005 ([[Silhouette Romance By The Numbers|Silhouette Romance #1782]])
* [[A Texas Family Reunion|''Texas Family Reunion, A'']] - [[Harlequin American Romance By The Numbers|Harlequin American Romance #1097 ]] - January 2006
* [[Triplet Secret Babies|''Triplet Secret Babies'']] - [[Harlequin American Romance By The Numbers|Harlequin American Romance #901 ]] - December 2001
* [[Vanessa's Match|''Vanessa's Match'']] - [[Harlequin American Romance By The Numbers|Harlequin American Romance #1117 ]] - June 2006
* [[Wanted: Christmas Mommy|''Wanted: Christmas Mommy'']] - [[Harlequin American Romance By The Numbers|Harlequin American Romance #612 ]] - December 1995
* ''[[When The Lights Went Out]]'' - October 2001 ([[Silhouette Romance By The Numbers|Silhouette Romance #1547]])
* [[Who's The Daddy?|''Who's the Daddy?'']] - [[Harlequin American Romance By The Numbers|Harlequin American Romance #579 ]] - April 1995

== On the Web ==
* [http://www.judychristenberry.com/contentStart.html Judy Christenberry] - Official website
* [http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/dallasmorningnews/obituary.aspx?n=judy-russell-christenberry&pid=167940477 Judy Christenberry Obituary]

Cara Summers

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== Biography ==
A self-admitted drama queen, '''Cara Summers''' majored in theater before taking up teaching. She continues to teach writing at the college level in addition to writing fiction. Her first published novel was 1994's ''[[C.J.'s Defense]]''. Summers is a bestselling and award-winning author, and is a member of the [[Virginia Romance Writers]] and the [[New Jersey Romance Writers]]. She has also written under the name [[Carolyn Andrews]]. She adopted the Summers name when her editors asked for a name change to reflect the lighter tone of her novels[http://www.aromancereview.com/interviews/carasummers.phtml].

As an author for [[Harlequin Temptation]], Cara Summers published five novels. She is a frequent presenter at conferences and workshops, and has over 20 published novels.

Cara Summers was a [[2009 RITA® Winners|2009 RITA® finalist]] in the [[RITA®: Best Contemporary Series Romance: Suspense/Adventure]] category with her novel ''[[A Sexy Time Of It]]''.

Cara Summers, also known by her real name Carolyn Hanlon, passed away on September 10, 2013.

=== See Also ===
* [[Carolyn Andrews]]

== Books ==
* ''[[The Cop - Cara Summers|Cop, The]]''
* ''[[The Dare|Dare, The]]''
* ''[[The Defender|Defender, The]]''
* ''[[Game For Anything]]''
* ''[[Early To Bed?]]'' - April 2004 ([[Temptation By The Numbers|Harlequin Temptation #970]])
* ''[[The Favor|Favor, The]]''
* ''[[Flirting With Temptation]]'' - July 2003 ([[Temptation By The Numbers|Harlequin Temptation #936]])
* ''[[Intent To Seduce]]''
* ''[[The Life Of Riley|Life Of Riley, The]]''
* ''[[Mistletoe And Mayhem]]''
* ''[[Moonstruck In Manhattan]]'' - December 2001 ([[Temptation By The Numbers|Harlequin Temptation #860]])
* ''[[Otherwise Engaged]]'' - January 2001 ([[Temptation By The Numbers|Harlequin Temptation #813]])
* ''[[The P.I.|P.I., The]]''
* ''[[The Proposition - Cara Summers|Proposition, The]]''
* ''[[A Sexy Time Of It|Sexy Time Of It, A]]'' - 2008 ([[Harlequin Blaze]])
* ''[[Short, Sweet And Sexy]]'' - October 2002 ([[Temptation By The Numbers|Harlequin Temptation #900]])
* ''[[Tell Me Your Secrets...]]''
* ''[[Two Hot!]]''
* ''[[When She Was Bad...]]''

===Short Stories/Novellas===
* "Aunt Delia's Legacy" in [[Snowbound]] (with [[Laura Marie Altom]] and [[Lindsay McKenna]]), 2007
* "I Can Still Feel You..." in [[Tex Appeal]] (with [[Kimberly Raye]] and [[Alison Kent]]), 2008

== Awards ==
* [[2007 Career Achievement Award Winners|2007 Career Achievement Award Winner]] - [[Romantic Times Magazine]] - Series Storyteller Of The Year

== On the Web ==
* [http://www.carasummers.com/ - Cara Summers Official Website]
* [http://www.aromancereview.com/interviews/carasummers.phtml Interview with Cara Summers] - at A Romance Review
* [http://www.eharlequin.com/podcasts/Harlequin_Author_Spotlight_Ep_2.mp3 Harlequin Author Spotlight] - [[Malle Vallik]] interviews Cara Summers, [[Brenda Novak]], and [[Hope Tarr]]
* [http://blazeauthors.com/2013/09/23/remembering-cara-by-brenda-chin/ Brenda Chin and Blaze authors remember Cara Summers]
* [http://obits.syracuse.com/obituaries/syracuse/obituary.aspx?n=carolyn-f-hanlon-fulgenzi&pid=166915549#fbLoggedOut Carolyn Hanlon Obituary]

Francis Ray

2013-07-10T01:04:13Z

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== Biography ==
Francis Ray is a native Texan and lives in Dallas. Ms. Ray's titles consistently make bestseller's lists such as Blackboard and Essence Magazine. INCOGNITO, her sixth title, was the first made-for-TV movie for BET. She has written forty-nine titles to date. Awards include Romantic Times Career Achievement, EMMA, The Golden Pen, The Atlantic Choice, Borders 2008 Bestselling Multicultural Romance Award and Written Magazine Book of the Year 2010.

Ms. Ray had six novels published or re-released in 2012, and four scheduled thus far for 2013. She enjoys writing fiction, where intelligent women through hard work and perseverance triumph over adversity, just as they do in real life.

Francis Ray passed away on July 3, 2013. She was born July 20, 1944.

== On the Web ==
* Francis Ray Official site http://www.Francisray.com
* Readers Group http://www.groups.yahoo.com/group/readersoffrancisray
* Francis Ray Twitter http://www.twitter.com/Francis_Ray
* Francis Ray MySpace http://www.myspace.com/francisray
* Francis Ray Shelfari http://www.shelfari.com/francisray
* Francis Ray Goodreads http://www.goodreads.com/author/show/23811.Francis_Ray
* [http://www.usatoday.com/story/happyeverafter/2013/07/08/michelle-monkou-francis-ray-tribute/2497537/ Tribute from Author Michelle Monkou]

== Books ==
=== Fiction ===
* ''[[Fallen Angel]]'' - 1992 Reissue 2003 ([[Odyssey Books/St. Martin's Press]])
* ''[[Undeniable]]'' - 1995 ([[Kensington/Arabesque]])
* ''[[The Bargain]]'' - 1995 ([[ Kensington]])
* ''[[Incognito - Francis Ray|Incognito]]'' - 1996 ([[Arabesque Bet's First Made-For-Tv Movie In 1999]])
* ''[[Silken Betrayal]]'' - 1995 ([[ Arabesque]])
* ''[[I Know Who Holds Tomorrow]]'' - 2002 ([[St. Martin's]])
* ''[[Rockin' Around That Christmas Tree]]'' - 2003 ([[St. Martin's]])

== Novellas ==
* ''[[Spirit Of The Season (Sarah's Miracle Novella)]]'' - 1994 ([[Kensington/Arabesque]])
* ''[[Rosie's Curl And Weave (The Awakening Novella)]]'' - 1999 ([[St. Martin's Press]])
* ''[[Winter Nights (Until Christmas Novella)]]'' - 1998 Reissue 2004 ([[Kensington/Arabesque]])
* ''[[Della's House Of Style (A Matter Of Trust Novella)]]'' - 2000([[St. Martin's]])
* ''[[Welcome To Leo's )]]'' - 2000 ([[St. Martin's]])
* ''[[Going To The Chapel (Southern Comfort Novella)]]'' - 2001 ([[St. Martin's]])
* ''[[Getting Merry (The Wish Novella)]]'' - 2002 ([[St. Martin's]])
* ''[[Living Large (Strictly Business Novella)]]'' - 2003 ([[ Nal]])
* ''[[Whole Lotta Love (That Wright Woman Novella)]]'' - 2004 ([[Nal]])
* ''[[Let's Get It On (Blind Date Novella)]]'' - 2004 ([[St. Martin's]])
* ''[[Big Girls Don't Cry (His Everything Woman Novella)]]'' - 2005 ([[Nal]])
* ''[[How Sweet The Sound (Then Sings My Soul Novella)]]'' - 2005 ([[Harlequin]])
* ''[[Chocolate Kisses (Novella)]]'' - 2006 ([[ Signet]])
* ''[[On The Line (Novella)]]'' - 2007 ([[Sepia]])
* ''[[Twice The Tempation (Novella)]]'' - 2011 ([[St.Martin's]])

== Series/Related Titles ==
Grayson Friends Series
* ''[[The Way You Love Me]]''- September 2008 ([[St. Martin's]])
* ''[[Nobody But You ]]''- March 2009 ([[St. Martin's]])
* ''[[One Night With You]]'' - November 2009 ([[St. Martin's]])
* ''[[It Had To Be You]]'' - April 2010 ([[St. Martin's]])
* ''[[A Seductive Kiss|A Seductive Kiss]]'' - January 2012 ([[St. Martin's]])
* ''[[Just With A Kiss|Just With A Kiss]]'' - February 2012 ([[St. Martin's]])
* ''[[A Dangerous Kiss|A Dangerous Kiss]]''- June 26, 2012 ([[St. Martin's]])
* ''[[All I Ever Wanted|All I Ever Wanted]]''- February 26, 2013 ([[St. Martin's]])
* ''[[All That I Need|All That I Need]]''- June 25, 2013 ([[St. Martin's]])
* ''[[All That I Desire|All That I Desire]]''- Tba Rio's Book ([[St. Martin's]])

Invincible Women Series
* ''[[Like The First Time]]'' - May 2004 ([[St. Martin's]])
* ''[[Any Rich Man Will Do]]'' - September 2005 ([[St. Martin's]])
* ''[[In Another Man's Bed]]'' - February 2007 ([[St. Martin's]])
* ''[[Not Even If You Begged ]]'' - February 2008 ([[St. Martin's]])
* ''[[And Mistress Makes Three]]'' - July 2009 ([[St. Martin's]])
* ''[[If You Were My Man]]'' - March 2010 ([[St. Martin's]])

Taggart/Falcon Series
* ''[[Forever Yours - Francis Ray|Forever Yours]]'' - July 1994([[Pinnacle Books ]])(Reissued March 2010 )
* ''[[Only Hers]]'' - April 1996 (Reissued August 2004 In A 3-In-1 Edition Titled Falcon Saga)
* ''[[Break Every Rule ]]'' - August 1998 (Reissued August 2004 In A 3-In-1 Edition Titled Falcon Saga)
* ''[[Heart Of The Falcon]]'' - April 2000 (Reissued August 2004 In A 3-In-1 Edition Titled Falcon Saga)

The Graysons Of New Mexico Series
* ''[[Until There Was You ]]''- April 2000 (Reissued November 2008 )
* ''[[You And No Other ]]''- March 2005 ([[St. Martin's]])
* ''[[Dreaming Of You]]'' - September 2006 ([[St. Martin's]])
* ''[[Irresistible You]]'' - March 2007 ([[St. Martin's]])
* ''[[Only You ]]''- October 2007 ([[St. Martin's]])

Against The Odds Series
* ''[[Trouble Don't Last Always]]'' - February 2004/November 2011 (Reissue Of The Turning Point From April 2001)
* ''[[Somebody's Knocking At My Door]]'' - May 2003

Family Affair/Hidden Legacy Series
* ''[[I Know Who Holds My Tomorrow]]'' - (Reissue November 2012)
* ''[[When Morning Comes]]''- June 5, 2012 ([[St. Martin's]])
* ''[[After The Dawn]]''-June 18, 2013 ([[St. Martin's]])

== Awards/Honors ==
Romantic Times Career Achievement, EMMA, The Golden Pen, The Atlantic Choice,
Romantic Times 2008 Reviewers' Choice Award Winners for AFRICAN-AMERICAN ROMANCE
Reviewers' Choice Awards - Best Books
NOT EVEN IF YOU BEGGED
St. Martin's Griffin (February 2008)

*Borders 2008 Bestselling Multicultural Romance Award for NOBODY BUT YOU
*Written's 2010 Readers Choice Book of the Year for IF YOU WERE MY MAN

= Author Appearances =
*TBA

Romance Wiki:Community Discussion

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[[category:Help|Community Discussion]]
'''Welcome''' to a new discussion page. This page is used to discuss the general topics that don't fit on an article or user talk page. You can ask questions, discuss policies, contents, operations and technical issues of RomanceWiki. Discussions will be archived once this page gets too long.

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'''Note:''' The talk page (reached by clicking "discussion" tab at the top of the page) for this '''Community Discussion''' page will be used to discuss things concerning this page itself, e.g., the layout, content.

==What Should We Call This?==
Yay! We have a place to talk about all those things that don't fit anywhere else. But, what should we call this discussion page? On Wikipedia, the page is called the "Village Pump." That does not sound very "romance-y" and we don't want to just copy them. I have suggested elsewhere that we call it the "Tea Room," or "Coffee House." What are your suggestions?--[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 16:02, 19 September 2007 (PDT) ''P.S. While we get the page set up, is it okay to have discussions about this page here. Once we have it going, such discussions should go to the project talk page.''

:Discussion Parlor? --[[User:Robini|Robini]] 19:49, 19 September 2007 (PDT)

::I like Parlor(y) type names, water cooler is good, Tea Room...like that. Or we could go with a Regency theme with Assembly Room(s).--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 09:56, 22 September 2007 (PDT)

:I vote for "Tea Room". --[[User:DawnBurn|DawnBurn]] 14:29, 25 September 2007 (PDT)

==Announcements?==
We could also use this for announcements although that does not seem right. Anyway, there is a new [[Help:Talk Pages]] with a question on its [[Help talk:Talk Pages]]. --[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 16:25, 19 September 2007 (PDT)

==Awards==
I think we need an award for [[User:Leigh]] and [[User:Amy]]. It is a slow day when they are not around adding/fixing hundreds of books! Thanks! --[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 15:00, 29 September 2007 (PDT)
:I second this nomination (though would also note that [[User:Kay T]] and [[User:DawnBurn]] have been equally awesome. I only glanced at the site while on vacation (apparently there's a rule against wiking while on vacation, though I did get a few interesting comments about my RW t-shirt -- wiki means "quick" in Hawaiian!), so it's just awesome to see all the new stuff and, especially, all the content clean-up. I know that Leigh is aware of the offer for a book bag (and Kay's was finally put in the mail!), so Dawn and Amy, if you're needing a bag, let me know.--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 19:48, 29 October 2007 (PDT)
::Um, I'm highly flattered. I do think Leigh & Amy should get awards for most prolific and most page additions. I believe I serve mostly as a gadfly and doing background organizational stuff which appeals to my anal retentative side without requiring new content from me. If you have extra bags, I would be honored to receive one, but I'd prefer to wait until both Leigh & Amy have been contacted because they are super duper awesome. --[[User:DawnBurn|DawnBurn]] 16:05, 30 October 2007 (PDT)
:::Wow, thanks guys :) I have to say I don't add nearly as many pages as Leigh -- I tend to get on something like adding book descriptions to Superromance pages and go and go and go until I find something else to obsess over. What I really need is wiki rehab! :) --[[User:Amy|Amy]] 18:01, 30 October 2007 (PDT)

::::Chocolate for rehab! We need chocolate! We really do appreciate all of your hard work - fixing or adding. I just know that when I first made the comment, I looked at Recent changes and there were no entries from Amy or Leigh yet that day - a slow day indeed! Sort of scary. Felt like I needed to call you to make sure you were okay. ;) And having people understand RomanceWiki well enough to do the behind the scenes stuff is so great! Thanks --[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 16:07, 1 November 2007 (PDT)

==Category: Books by Publisher ==
I have noticed that several publisher categories have been created and used on book pages for that publisher's books. This is not a bad idea, and I created a mega-category: [[:Category:Books By Publisher]]. We could add a publisher category on the book template. What do you all think? --[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 20:20, 29 October 2007 (PDT)
:Looks like we're both up late (okay, heading off to bed after this -- have to return to the Evil Empire tomorrow). I think, way back when, I might have started to categorize books by publisher, but not categories. I quickly realized that the by publisher designation might be useful, but was also unwieldy. Books by imprint -- which is closer, I think, to what you're doing here -- makes more sense. Nobody seeks "Books by Harlequin", but they do seek "Presents" (or Harlequin Presents). Just as with the author designation, it makes sense to categorize books in this way.

:I am guilty of being inconsistent in this regard (having not found my original method of categorizing books by publisher to be particularly effective). I would agitate for imprint over publisher, but publisher if imprint is unknown/not easily discernible. I am strongly in favor of offering the maximum number of options for finding content. Other thoughts?--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 23:46, 29 October 2007 (PDT)

::Yes, I would probably do book imprints since we have started to use those for Harlequin, but for Red Rose it is probably okay to just do the publisher for now. The other publisher category that had been created was for Samhain, but that was one that had been nominated for deletion, and I think you did delete it this weekend. Maybe Dawn or others will have some thoughts on this. I am not wedded to one way or the other. --[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 13:24, 30 October 2007 (PDT)

:::The reason why the Samhain page was up for deletion was because it was a double, IIRC. I'm not against [[:Category:Books By Publisher]] in that the point of RW is to help people find the books they are looking for. However, I do think [[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]]'s notes are potentially troublesome. In that what category do we use for things like Harlequin versus Blaze (Publisher versus Imprint). I think more people do look by imprint,and if each imprint category was a subset of the overarching publisher, that might be good. But we already have inconsistencies in how the imprints are named or referenced on the book pages. I'm realizing I'm not making a preference either way. Umm... yes to having the mega-category being added, and potentially yes to that being added to the template. But realizing that all previously created pages won't have and that we'll likely get duplicates of categories due to spelling/caps/inclusion of publisher and imprint or just imprint/etc. into those categories. --[[User:DawnBurn|DawnBurn]] 16:03, 30 October 2007 (PDT)

::::Darn you Dawn for practicality! Here's my thinking, for what it's worth (about what you're paying...). When I first started, I was a naive babe in the woods. I think -- and someone will surely correct me as it was a rookie error -- I named a page "Romance". It meant either Harlequin or Silhouette Romance (I can't recall), but it was a stupid page name and I'm crossing my fingers that the more organized of us have fixed it.

::::I do believe that people search more by imprint than publisher (though in the case of Harlequin, both are equally popular). If I were to do it all over, I would create a mega-category for each publisher and then a sub-category for each imprint. That would achieve the goal of making sure that information was accessible no matter how people search (and people search in ways you cannot begin to imagine -- if you're ever bored, watch a co-worker or friend or (best) mother search. It's quite stunning and also educational.

::::So I am advocating for a particular hierarchy, but also realizing that this is a huge time suck (and when it comes to the wiki, we all so many of those, right?). But...light, tunnel, all that. If someone has the energy and time to write a set of rules for categorization, I do have a resource who can help. If not, my feeling is we make this a future project while we put guidelines in place for go-forward content. Thoughts, agreements, disagreements, better ideas (you all have way better ideas than moi)...? --[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]], signed for author by [[User:DawnBurn|DawnBurn]] 16:58, 8 November 2007 (PST)

Shock, gasp! You forgot to sign your post, RomanceWiki. My thought was that this could be added to the template and as you said we could add the publisher category going forward, gradually adding to existing books as needed. What other complications are we not thinking of? One is that a category of "Avon" might contain both books, info about the publisher and authors. Does that matter? I also wonder if there is some "easy" way of doing this. At this point, as you see from the mega-category ([[:Category:Books By Publisher]]), there are both imprint categories, publisher categories, and articles with lists of books by publisher. We could also add the numbered series here if we wanted to. hmmm...--[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 13:22, 2 November 2007 (PDT)

:Replying to Kay's post, but the general thread. I have some LIMITED experience with writing code. I might be able to come up with a rule set, if we are talking about a bot. I think this thread speaks to a general "need" to clean up. There is still the [[Romance]] page, and the naming of the imprints (and their associated by the number pages) is um... random at best. But moving all of those pages (nominally annoying) and then fixing all the redirects (way more annoying) could be more easily done by a use of bot, which would then potentially allow at the same a restructuring of the mega-category to allow more searching. So, it might be of benefit to examine if from a complete overhaul instead of just 'going forward.' I'm willing to use what limited code skills I have toward this and I've considered more than once figuring out enough to write a bot that would auto add the Same Title, Multiple Author books to the Books Alpha pages (which, incidentally, I'm not fond of and are incomplete and hard to use, not that I actually have a better suggestion). Umm... short summary:

:Let's talk (here or in group chat) about how it might be best to restructure from the ground up with the use of a bot for any high repetitive tasks in cleanup.--[[User:DawnBurn|DawnBurn]] 16:58, 8 November 2007 (PST)

::Dawn, I think that someone here might have figured out how to use AWB (from Wikipedia) to do some repetitive tasks, and I have wanted to learn but am afraid. :) One of the problems of thinking or talking about a mega-category and the category tree structure is that there is no good way of seeing that structure on the wiki. That even drives me crazy on the [[RomanceWiki:Category Index]] -- hard to show the structure. At one point (many moons ago) I had dumped all the categories into Excel and then made the structure more obvious. How would you suggest we do a restructure? Should we move this to the category index talk page?--[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 13:43, 9 November 2007 (PST)

== Traffic Analysis ==
Before I go back and read what Kay and Dawn are discussing above (lot of words, little coffee), I'll introduce a new idea for those of you who love to waste time on research. When I have time, I like to focus on building up content related to search phrases used to bring (see recent pages for [[Anne Weale]] and [[Sara Seale]] as examples). I've pulled out the approximately [[Top 20 Search Phrases]] that our readers are using (note: this list is edited to toss out things like "romancewiki"). If you're looking for hours of fun, adding content to these pages is the way to go!--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 10:12, 10 November 2007 (PST)

== Discussion Options ==
To make the discussions about structure and content more efficient, I am wondering if we need to create a list, forum, blog (which, yes, is still high on my list -- just waiting for tech guy to add Kay's category page. I am turning into quite the nag on that).--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 10:12, 10 November 2007 (PST)

==Publishers and Books with Same Name==
I've encountered another problem with creating disambiguation pages - books that have the same name as a publisher or imprint. Some examples:
* [[Splendor]] and [[Temptation]] - imprint pages to which another user has added information about a book (sigh)
* [[Genesis]] (publisher) and [[Genesis (CP)]] (book)
Should we create a disambig page listing both the books and imprint (and if so, do the imprint pages need to be moved to "Title - Imprint" -- as we renamed similar anthology pages "Title - Anthology")? The problem with that, of course, is that a ton of links to that imprint will have be changed. Does anyone have a better solution? --[[User:Amy|Amy]] 19:47, 30 November 2007 (PST)

:Funny you should mention this as I encountered this situation this week. In my case, because there were so few links to deal with, I changed the publisher name to the full title. However, since someone (me, I'm ashamed to admit) started off calling Temptation, Temptation, there are far too many links to change (though, I can ask my husband's assistant to do that if we choose to got that route -- she has the, as they say, bandwidth).

:I admit that I like the idea of adding imprints to the disambiguation pages. Sick I know. I am willing to manage the task of dealing with the Temptation and Splendor links (first) if we agree that this is the optimal solution. I'm going to ping Leigh, Kay, and Dawn to weigh in.--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 21:05, 30 November 2007 (PST)

::Sorry, I have not been around lately! I have to say that I like the solution of having the imprint on the disamb page. Of course, thinking about the consequences of this is rather mind-boggling. If we moved '''Temptation''' the imprint to a page called '''Harlequin Temptation''' the the links would automatically redirect. But if we then wanted to make a disamb page called '''Temptation''' we would have to change all the links (I am not sure if that is even doable without a bot, has your "assistant" figured out bots?). I suppose we could call the disamb page '''Temptation (disambiguation)'''?? Don't really have my wiki-hat on right now. In the short term we could just make the book pages with the author's name, a disamb page called '''Temptation (disambiguation)''' and ?? --[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 15:52, 4 December 2007 (PST)

:::Actually, I'm more than halfway through making the page changes (I had some client downtime this week and am taking full advantage of this brief respite!); however, making the change through the database was option two. In fact, I was in the process of writing the rules for this when I realized I was going to be done with the project before I could turn it over. So I'm thinking that when this done (today or tomorrow), I'll contact Amy and she can her piece, I'll do my piece (moving a few authors), and we can add the '''Temptation''' imprint to the disambiguation page. I like that this makes the disambig concept more complete. I like complete.

:::I'm hoping the Genesis project is much smaller, otherwise, I'll go with making the changes on the database side (or, if you will the "bot" solution).--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 11:25, 5 December 2007 (PST)

::::So I haven't been around (just started a new job and didn't see my talk page), but I just wanted to briefly say that I like the idea of having moved the '''Temptation''' to '''Harlequin Temptation'''. And I do think a bot solution could be done (still on my list of things to do is to play with a bot) since it would be a matter of changing all the pages (mostly) that link there. So, in general, I support fuller Imprint Article Titles (Publisher Imprint). --[[User:DawnBurn|DawnBurn]] 11:35, 7 December 2007 (PST)

:::::Kassia, thanks for taking care of the Temptation thing. Fixing [[Splendor]] and [[Genesis]] will much, much shorter since only a couple pages link to them. In fact, I should get [[Splendor]] done tonight. --[[User:Amy|Amy]] 16:37, 10 December 2007 (PST)

::::::Then there's the final one to look at: Desire. It's on my mental radar rather than active radar since the schedule is much tighter this week.--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 19:50, 11 December 2007 (PST)

==Author Page Help==
Hi, this is Lillith Payne. I'm new here and confused!
I set up a basic page and can open it and print it.
I CAN'T OPEN IT FROM THE AUTHOR LIST!
If anyone can give me simple directions to correct this I'd appreciate it.
My thanks, Lillith
:Hi Lillith. Looks like you edited your user page [[User:Lillith Payne]] with your info but didn't create an actual wiki page. I've gone ahead and started one at [[Lillith Payne]] with the info from your user page and added you to the author list so you should be good to go. --[[User:Amy|Amy]] 15:15, 16 January 2008 (PST)

Hi Amy,
Thank you so much for your help. I found the process completely frustrating not being able to find the fix. When I logged on today I knew I must have found a guardian angel. Consider me your random act of kindness for the week. Lillith
:No problem Lillith, glad to help :) --[[User:Amy|Amy]] 14:44, 17 January 2008 (PST)

Hi, My name is Mahalia. I signed up to make a author page for myself but in the url it says User.Mahalia Levey and isn't popping up on google. My mentor has his name to the left in the wiki romance logo. What did I do wrong? Thanks

:Hi Mahalia, You created your author page on your user page. I am not an author, just a romance novel enthusiast so my user page has what I'm updating on this site. The following is a link to your AUTHOR PAGE: [[Mahalia Levey]]. The following is a link to your USER PAGE [[User:Mahalia Levey]]. See the difference in the links? I've moved the information you put on your USER PAGE to your AUTHOR PAGE, so you should be good.--[[User:Greenstrawberry1982|Greenstrawberry1982]] 00:28, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

::Thank you so much Greenstrawberrry1982 How do I add to it when I have more news? Also is there a link for setting up an author page? Others are asking me where to find how to set up an author page. Thank you so much for helping me so quickly. I saw the dif in the links, I just didn't know where to go to fill out more info on the author link.

::: ANSWERS:
::: Question 1: ''How do I add to it when I have more news?''
::: Answer 1: Step 1. Sign in to romancewiki.com.
:::: Step 2: Using the romancewiki search function, search for your name (i.e.''Mahalia Levey''). In the research results, click on the link to your page. You could also go to the author lists, find your name and click on it.
:::: Step 3: At the top of your author page there are tabs labeled: ''page, discussion, edit, history, move, watch''. Click the ''edit'' tab and start adding editing your author page. (FYI, If you don't sign in to romancewiki first the ''edit'' tab will be replaced with a tab labeled ''source.'' this allows you to view the text you previously wrote but not to change it).
:::: Note: At this point it would be good to watch your author page by clicking on the ''watch'' tab at the top of your author page. The watch tab adds your author page to your ''my watchlist.'' Whenever you sign-in in the future, click your ''my watchlist'' link at the upper right-hand corner. If a page you are watching has been changed since you last visited, you will see it on your ''my watchlist.'' You can also have romancewiki email you when someone other than yourself makes any changes to your any pages you are watching (go to your ''my preferences'' link, seen at the upper right-hand corner of the page. to enable this function). After clicking on the watch tab. the tab should change to ''unwatch''. FYI, you can do this for any page you are interested in (i.e. your book pages). If you have already done this, great!

::: Question 2: ''Also is there a link for setting up an author page?''
::: Answer 2: Look to the left-hand column of this website and click on the ''Help'' link, Look for the section ''Editing Romancewiki'' and look in that section for the link to ''Author Pages''. The link gives you step-by-step instructions on how to setup an author page and provides a template.

::: You also might want to set-up the ability for other uses of romancewiki to be able to e-mail you. I would have e-mailed you telling you I had posted an answer for you (go to you ''my preferences'' link to enable this function). Note: I will not know your e-mail address. the function just enables me to send a message to you via romancewiki (romancewiki is actually the one that send my message to you).
:::: Hope my answers helped.--[[User:Greenstrawberry1982|Greenstrawberry1982]] 18:42, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

:::::Thank you so much. yes they did. I am not a big techy person so learning codes or how to do things is the bane of my existence. You've done so much to help and I really appreciate it.

Hi! My name is Annie Alvarez and I seem to have the same problem as Mahalia. I set up an author page, but when I click on it from the Authors list, it says my page hasn't been written, yet. I know I wrote it, I can see it when I log in. What did I do wrong? Thanks.

:Seems like you solved your own problem. Good work!--[[User:Greenstrawberry1982|Greenstrawberry1982]] 18:20, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

== RW Workflow ==
Rather than post this on my personal page (which I'm sure is out there somewhere!), I just thought I'd give a quick update about the big content stuff in progress (especially since Amy and Leigh are going gangbusters!). I'm adding author pages for all the [[Silhouette Romance]] authors and will do the by the numbers pages if someone doesn't beat me to it (I have all the content ready to roll when I get that far in my file). After that, I will go back and add the author pages for [[Harlequin Temptation]] authors. For some bizarre reason -- old age, probably -- I did the by the numbers pages, but never did all the work for each author. Quite a few have already been created by others, so I'll be filling in the gaps there. Phew!

On a go-forward basis, I am building a whole slate of author pages for various category lines. This is going alphabetically by author and should take a good long time. However, we'll have a huge database of romance authors with the best biographical information I can find (and yeah, if you know stuff I don't...). After that, I'll need to come up with a game plan for the rest of the bunch, but since I'm still on the "A" list of authors, I'm not rushing there.

To add some color, especially for older authors without much information, I'm also tracking down at least one halfway decent cover image. If anyone needs me to work on something else, just give a shout-out. Since this current workplan is so huge, I don't mind getting sidetracked a bit.

Also, I'm thinking we need to give some love to writing romance -- anyone know anyone who might be a great resource for this?--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 21:30, 24 January 2008 (PST)

:"''give some love to writing romance''"

:What did you have in mind here RW? Good game plan, I somehow missed this when I was here the other day. --[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 17:46, 2 February 2008 (PST)

::Specifically, I referring to building a good, strong writer resource section. I know we have some bits and pieces here and there, but it would be terrific to have an organized section. It's really the one area where we haven't made inroads, content-wise. It's on my long-term mental plan of things to do, but given my current workplan, it's a seriously future deal.--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 21:09, 6 February 2008 (PST)

:::Yes, we could use some more here. Just for future reference, I have tried to keep up lists and links on the [[Resources]] page and in the [[:category:Romance Resources]]. --[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 21:08, 7 February 2008 (PST)

==Publisher's lines, numbered series==
Leigh has been busy cleaning up the pages that contain lists of books in publisher's lines. Proactively, should we have a section in the [[Help:Style Manual|style manual]] that says something like:

'''Publisher Imprints & Lines''' 
When creating a page for a publisher's imprint, for example, [[Intimate Moments]], it is best to include the name of the publisher in the title, [[Silhouette Intimate Moments]]. This makes it clearer that the article is about an imprint or line and not about a book with that title.

What do we think?? --[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 11:49, 31 January 2008 (PST)
: That sounds like a good idea to me. --[[User:Leigh|Leigh]]
::I am in agreement with Leigh (who has been doing amazing work lately!). As noted above, I am doing loads and loads of author pages (which will be added to wiki as I get through the previous things -- there is something about having a queue that makes me excited), and I am using the publisher pages as guidelines when I create my links.

::If Leigh needs to push some mindless content clean-up my way, just say the word. There are days when I need to put the brain on auto-pilot (especially lately...if only I had the time to do so!). ''And'' the husband's assistant is available for projects -- she's super tech savvy and has done a few wiki projects already. Wiki projects are not highest priority (!@@#$ men!), but tell me if there's something that you can't get to.--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 20:58, 31 January 2008 (PST)

{{done}}
--[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 17:52, 2 February 2008 (PST)
::Kay -- I love the little graphics. They make me smile!--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 20:43, 6 February 2008 (PST)

:::Yes, it is so perky! Hope your temporary dislocation is going okay, and you have found some books to read! even if you weren't dislocated we are in a dry spell, I think. --[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 21:08, 7 February 2008 (PST)

==Author Page Help==
Hi, my name is Cheryl A. Cornell. I set up a new page for myself yesterday, 2/9/08 for my first published novel, Treasure Found through The Wild Rose Press. Thought I followed the directions but I'm not showing up on the author list. If anyone has any ideas what I did wrong or how to fix it I'd appreciate any information you can give. I believed I edited the page but wasn't able to create it. Thanks to anyone who can help, Cheryl 10:35AM 2-10-08

*I'm not sure if there was some database funkiness, or if you actually set up your info on your user page by mistake. User pages are different than author pages, because not every wiki user is an author - I've got a user page frex., but I'm just an editor. Anyways, I went ahead and added a page for you in the actual content of the wiki (user page "space" is different) and filled out the sorting/listing stuff for you. Your page can be found at [[Cheryl A. Cornell]], and I filled out what I could of the Standard wiki template. You can edit it as you see fit, and delete the sections that don't apply to you (like pseudonyms). Also, if you click on the link for your book, I've loaded the books page template onto that page. You can click "edit" and fill out the info for your book, specifically. --[[User:Robini|Robini]] 13:37, 10 February 2008 (PST)

==Thanks for Author Help==
Hi Robini,
Thanks for your help getting this straight and posted. I truly appreciate
you giving me your time and knowledge; as you can tell this is beyond what my brain can compute. It's nice to be in a place where people actually help each other. I appreciate the welcome, Cheryl 2/11/08 9:52AM

== HQ Series Numbering Discussion ==
Hi Teresa, I'm pasting your question below first, then trying to answer the question (I'm still out of town ... and down with a nasty cold, so if I'm incoherent, excuse me):
<blockquote>I have resently downloaded the Presents and Romance by the number pages to have a complete list of the titles. The problem i'm having is that there seems to be 2 seperate and distince collections in both. I don't understand how this is possible. Is there someplace else i can find the alternate lists?</blockquote>
What we're using here at the RomanceWiki is the US numbering system. The lines are also released in other countries, so that might account for differences. Or there is (always) the possibility of user error -- especially when it comes to the very early [[Harlequin Romance]] titles as I had to do a lot of digging to find those titles (and, yeah, I've whined to the Harlequin people about this, but I suspect they don't have a database going back to day one either).

If you're finding differences, I'd appreciate it if you brought them to my attention, or, since [[:User:Leigh|Leigh]] has been uber-terrific about adding content to these sections, her. We definitely want to get it right!--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 17:26, 11 March 2008 (PDT)
: It looks like Harlequin released some Romance and Presents titles to subscribers only in the late 80s/90s. The numbering for these books began again at 1 rather than fitting into the numbers of the retail books, creating a second set of Romance and Presents books whose numbers were significantly lower than the regular ones released at the same time, even though there doesn't seem to be much difference in their covers or content. We probably should add pages for these lists too, but I don't know what they should be called. --[[User:Leigh|Leigh]]

::Okay, I do have those subscription listings in my (extremely long) queue! I am adding the word "Subscription" to the end of the imprint name (ie, Harlequin Romance Subscription By The Numbers, etc). Since it's going to be a while before I upload these lists (I have found -- don't call me a slow learn (g) -- that if I do the author listings ''before'' I do the By The Numbers pages, I can correct for many of the "same title, multiple author" scenarios without having to do a lot of rework), if someone wants to start these listings now, just follow the above syntax so things will line up nicely with the categories. If for some reason it's deemed that a better title would work, just let me know and I'll do a search and replace in my text file (it won't be the first, nor the last!).--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 15:22, 13 March 2008 (PDT)
:::I went ahead and started the pages. I'll add the titles ASAP. --[[User:Leigh|Leigh]]

==Vintage Romance Novels - best places to find==
I collect vintage Gothic Romance and Romantic Suspense novels (and have fallen in love with adding them here) but anyway back to the point - I used to be able to pick these up quite easily at books sales, garage sales, and flea markets. But not anymore they are becoming harder and harder to find. The only place I can usually get them at consistently is at Ebay. I have found another site that is fun that does have a lot of vintage novels on it and I am picking up quite a few of the [[Mystique]] books that I don't have there. It is [http://paperbackswap.com Paper Back Swap] - I've found it useful to list my duplicates. So the question is - what other resources do you guys use?? Anyone else know of other websites that you can get vintage paperbacks on at a reasonable price?? --[[User:Devilbuny|Devilbuny]] 05:10, 20 May 2008 (PDT)
:I don't buy as many vintage romances as I used to, though I have a weakness for 1950's era medical romances -- which I pick up at a vintage bookstore when I get out that way (my schedule is too insane to contemplate trying eBay or other sources). I think there used to be a group called Bookstore Junkies (might want to check Yahoogroups) that was a terrific resource for swaps.

:You might want to set up a page for other readers who are looking for great sources for classic books...I'm sure there are lots of great resources out there!--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 20:11, 20 May 2008 (PDT)

==What style for anthologies?==
Hello! I'm a little confused about which style to use for anthologies. I've seen different styles [[A Gift Of Love - Anthology]], [[Taming Him - Anthology]] (and also creating some by myself :( [[A Holiday Of Love]], [[Upon A Midnight Clear - Anthology]]) and before I change them, I would like to know if there's a prefered style? And if so, could someone please include the style into the book template? And should I treat the novellas like book titels by creating a link (and later an own page)? [[User:Sweety1746|Sweety1746]] 05:56, 1 October 2008 (PDT)

: I believe the style is still being debated. As I think about it, my personal preference is to omit the word "Anthology" from the page title. However, it makes sense to add it in those instances where you encounter multiple books with the same title (in keeping with the style guide of adding the author names in these situations). I am open to opinions, of course. I don't create a lot of book entries, so would like to hear from those who focus on that area.

: Novellas are tricky because it's sometimes hard to distinguish them from short stories. I tend to be more traditional style guide in this regard, creating a book page for the entire book and including information about each individual story on that page. On the author pages (and I admit I've changed my mind since the early days of adding content), I go with this approach:
:: <nowiki>* "Tame, Tame, Tame", ''[[Taming Him]]'' - 2008 ([[Publisher]]), with [[other author]], [[other author]] (if other authors are applicable</nowiki>
--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 17:46, 3 October 2008 (PDT)

==Lists by last name and first name==
I need some help with this lists by surname and subname and such. I hope I can correctly explain what I mean. So, first let's see if I got all this lists right: 1. There are lists (i.e. [[Authors - C]]), in which the authors are sorted by their last name (surname), but I have to add an author by hand. I use this if I just can recall the last name of an author.
2. Lists, that sort the authors by first names within all authors with the same initial of the last name (i.e. [http://www.romancewiki.com/Category:Authors_-_C]). Here the author appears automatically when I put the right category on the author's page. This list is useful if I can remember an author's first name, but am not sure about the last name (though I can exclude some possibilities).
So what is the line "DEFAULTSORT:Last name, First name" in the author template good for? If I use it, the author will be sorted by the last name in the 2. list, which makes no sense according to the discription on page "Category:Authors By Subname".
And by the way, what is a "subname"? I coudn't find a translation or definition anywhere.[[User:Sweety1746|Sweety1746]] 07:11, 1 October 2008 (PDT)
: Here is the rule of thumb for these lists:
: # The alphabetical author pages are straight alpha listings, done, as you've noted manually. People search for content in multiple ways. These author listings (which I always use as my starting point when I add a new author page) are a convenience. They should be alphabetical by last name, first name.
: # The category listings relate to question three. Categories are very cool for slicing and dicing content. However...
: # If you do not use the DEFAULTSORT option, then the names do not properly alphabetize on the page. DEFAULTSORT tells the software to use X order when displaying the content within the categories. Default sort Wiki, Romance places the information in the "W" area. Default sort Romance Wiki places it in the "R" area. It's preferable to have authors sort by last and first (it just looks better that way). I also use DEFAULTSORT with books whose titles begin with articles:
:: <nowiki>{{DEFAULTSORT:Spy Who Loved Me, The}}</nowiki>
: So, items two and three work hand-in-hand. Since item one is a manually generated list, it's up to the user to get the information in the right place. Does all this make sense, or have I muddied the waters even more? --[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 17:38, 3 October 2008 (PDT)
::Ok, thanks so far, but I think I'm still trying to figure out the "aim" of this lists created by using DEFAULTSORT. I created a page for Gayle Callen and naturally I added "Category:Authors - C" so she is in the right category. There, without using DEFAULSORT, she is in the "G" area after Gay Cameron (although Callen alphabethically comes before Cameron). And that's how I understand it should be according to the description on the general page (http://www.romancewiki.com/Category:Authors_By_Subname). Quote: "In the Subcategories below the authors are alphabetized by their first names, i.e., an author named Amy Andrews will appear before Anne Anderson." In this example, both authors are listed in category A because of their last name and in the "A" area because of their first name. And if there's an author named Mary Andrews, she will be also in category A, but in the "M" area, ''won't she''? (question#1)
::But if I use DEFAULTSORT for my author, she is listed by her last name and appears as "Gaylen Callen" (first name - last name) in the "C" area. Only when there is another author with last name "Callen", they will be alphabetized by their first names. So, if I use DEFAULTSORT for all authors whose last names beginn with "C", there will be no subdividing into different areas in category C because all authors will be listed by their last names and so appear in the same area? (question#2) And then the example on the general page isn't correct!
::And, considerin all things, using DEFAULTSORT will automatically create a list without areas and only (no offence) because the style "first name - last name" doesn't look good and maybe isn't good to search through there are these other "handmade" lists "last name - first name"? (question#3)
::Please, let the answers to all three questions always be: "Correct!" :)

::: The description of the subcategories versus articles is incorrect.The [[:Category:Authors By Subname|Authors By Subname]] is automatically generated to pick up both categorized content and articles (which is really a redundant concept if all authors have been, at least, categorized correctly -- not everyone updates the manual list). Using DEFAULTSORT correctly alphabetizes authors by last, first no matter which category they're in, so I prefer it that way (and, if I recall correctly, [[:User:Kay T]] did a lot of work to fix missing DEFAULTS. It looks like it's time to clean up other entries again.
::: Getting closer to answering your question?
:::: Yeah, thanks. Now I understand the concept and will use DEFAULTSORT myself and add it on pages where it's still missing.

==Why do we have two or more of the same category?==

As I was starting to edit a couple of author pages, I noticed two or more of the same category.

Nora Roberts' page has Category: Writers who use Pen Names (which is a redirect to Category: Authors With Pseudonyms). I understand there being a category for Authors With Multiple Identities (if he or she has more than one pseudonym), but why the use of a redirect for the Pen Name? Should both be added to an author's page? Should one be added to the author's pseudonym page?

I'm just wondering what should be used since I'm adding an author's pen name to her page. It's funny how this author's pen name is mentioned on Wikipedia, but not on here. her pen name's books are listed on here, as well as some quotes, but no connection to the author - odd. --[[User:CreativeSoul7981|CreativeSoul7981]] 12:50, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

: Sometimes it's a matter of semantics (I prefer pseudonym, someone else prefers pen name). I tend to clean up this kind of double-tagging when I encounter it because it's confusing (redundant tagging is not bad thing as people do use different terminology, and it's good to offer alternatives when they make sense).

: I agree with RomanceWiki.--[[User:Greenstrawberry1982|Greenstrawberry1982]] 06:09, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

==Another Book With the Same Title==
I started to add a new book to my page. I added the brackets, but when I went to edit/create that page for that book, there was already another book listed with the same title. How can I add my book? Thanks!
[[User:Linda Mooney|Linda Mooney]] 23:43, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

: See [[Help:Same Title Multiple Authors]] for instructions.--[[User:Greenstrawberry1982|Greenstrawberry1982]] 01:04, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

==UK Series Numbers==

Do UK Mills & Boon Books have series numbers anymore? If so, does anyone have a site that actually says what they are? The UK Mills & Boon Website does not say.--[[User:Greenstrawberry1982|Greenstrawberry1982]] 14:32, 24 June 2011 (PDT)

==Error Creating Thumbnaill==

I've been uploading some book covers and whilst the picture has downloaded, on the page created for the book it says 'thumbnail error' instead of showing the downloaded image. Not had this problem before, don't know why it's happened or how to fix it. Help!

--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 12:59, 26 February 2013 (PST)I'm not sure why this is happening, but I did notice there were quite a few of these errors when I was cleaning up unused images. It appeared the upload to the site didn't happen properly, but I'll ask the tech dude to check into this to see if there is something weird going on. Can you send me a link to a page that is having this problem?

Here's a link to two of the pages, thanks. http://www.romancewiki.com/Tangle_In_Sunshine
http://www.romancewiki.com/Young_Tracy

Still working on this, but one fix is in place. On Young Tracy, it appears the files aren't uploaded. I can access one of the Tangle in Sunshines. Sorry for being so frustrating on this issue, but there may be multiple issues (first fix seems to address a problem with the webhost). Can you try re-uploading the Young Tracy files? Hoping to see some success! --[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 20:00, 3 March 2013 (PST)

Had a go at uploading Young Tracy again, still has the thumbnail error. Thanks.

Is there any way around this thumbnail issue? Would love to do more pages but would feel it's a waste of time if this is still going to be an issue. 1 April 2013

* Still working on a solution. It's a problem on the webhost side, not on the software side. Every time I feel like it's been solved, I discover a new problem. Really, really annoying. Will let you know once it's fixed.--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 14:44, 1 April 2013 (PDT)

Arlene Hale

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'''Arlene Hale (1924-1982)'''

According to bibliographical information printed in several of her novels, Arlene Hale was born and raised on a small farm in Iowa and attended a one-room schoolhouse. Her family later moved to New London, Iowa, where she graduated from high school and then began her writing career by writing poetry and short stories. Eventually, Ms. Hale wrote more than 100 novels, mostly romance and nurse romance books and an occasional gothic romance. In addition to her own name she would write under at least two pseudonyms, Lynn Williams and Gail Everett.

Arlene Hale died in 1982 at the relatively young age of 57.

(Sources: "The Winds of Summer" by Arlene Hale, Little Brown and Co., 1976, dust cover, and "Lovers'Reunion" by Arlene Hale, Signet Books, 1977, page 185.)

'''SELECTED BIBLIOGRAPHY:'''

"School Nurse" (Ace, 1960)

"Leave It to Nurse Kathy" (Ace, 1963)

"Wait for Love" (1963) Later reissued by Dell, 1975

"A Nurse's Strange Romance" (Ace, 1964)

"Nurse Marcie's Island" (Ace, 1964)

"Chicago Nurse" (Ace, 1965) (Later retitled "A Nurse's New Love")

"Nurse on Leave" (Ace, 1965)

"Mountain Nurse" (Ace, 1966)

"Emergency for Nurse Selena" (Ace, 1966)

"Lake Resort Nurse" (Ace, 1966)

"Camp Nurse" (Ace, 1966)

"Journey for a Nurse" (Ace, 1966)

"University Nurse" (Ace, 1967)

"Nurse on the Beach" (Ace, 1967)

"Dr. Barry's Nurse" (1968)

"Emergency Call" (Ace, 1968)

"When Summer Ends" (as Gail Everett) (Dell, 1968)

"Stranger on the Beach" (Dell, 1968)

"My Favorite Nurse" (Ace, 1968)

"Crossroads for Nurse Cathy" (Ace, 1969)

"Nurse Rogers' Discovery" (1969) (Later retitled "When Dreams Come True" (Dell, 1977)

"Private Hospital" (Dell, 1969)

"The New Nurses" (Dell, 1970)

"Holiday to Fear" (Dell, 1970)

"Nothing But a Stranger" (Scholastic, 1971)

"Dark Flames" (Dell, 1971)

"A Nurse for Sand Castle" (Dell, 1971)

"Walk Softly, Doctor" (Ace, 1971)

"Executive Nurse" (Dell, 1971)

"The Reunion" (Dell, 1972)

"The Nurse from Mulberry Square" (Ace, 1972)

"Medley of Mystery" (as Lynn Williams, copyright by Arlene Hale) (Dell, 1974)

"Midnight Nightmare" (Dell, 1975)

"Dangerous Yesterdays" (Dell, 1975)

"Perilous Weekend" (Dell, 1975)

"The Winds of Summer" (Little Brown and Co., 1976)

"The Stormy Sea of Love" (Signet, 1976)

"Nurse Lora's Love" (Ace, 1976)

"Nurse Julia's Tangled Loves" (Ace, 1976)

"Frightened Nurse" (1976)

"Lovers' Reunion" (Signet, 1977)

"Nurse in Residence" (Dell, 1977) (reissue)

"The Hungry Heart" (Dell, 1977)

"Love's Sweet Surrender" (Dell, 1980)

"The Impossible Love" (Scholastic, 1982)

"Lisa" (Scholastic, 1982)

"Community Nurse" (Ace)

"Disaster Area Nurse" (Ace)

"The Disobedient Nurse" (Ace)

"The Doctor's Daughter" (Ace)

"Dude Ranch Nurse" (Ace) (not to be confused with Diana Douglas' book with the same title)

"Nurse Jean's Strange Case" (Ace)

"Nurse on the Run" (Ace)

"Nurse Sue's Romance" (Ace)

"Private Duty for Nurse Scott" (Ace)

"Nurse from the Shadows" (Ace)

"Orphanage Nurse" (Dell)

"Gateway to Love" (Signet)

"In Love's Own Fashion" (Signet)

"Legacy of Love" (Signet)

"A Vote for Love" (Signet)

"When Love Returns" (Little Brown and Co.)

"The Season of Love" (Little Brown and Co.)

"The Runaway Heart" (Little Brown and Co.)

"A Time for Us" (Little Brown and Co.)

"Promise of Tomorrow" (Little Brown and Co.)

"Goodbye to Yesterday" (Little Brown and Co.)

"Home to the Valley" (Little Brown and Co.)

"Where the Heart Is" (Little Brown and Co.)

"A Glimpse of Paradise" (Little Brown and Co.)

"One More Bridge to Cross" (Little Brown and Co.)

"The Other Side of the World" (Little Brown and Co.)

"Ghost Town's Secret" (Publisher/Year Unknown)

Chloe Cheshire

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== Biography ==
Chloe Cheshire is the author of the 1994 Regency Romance ''[[A Gypsy At Almack's]]''. The name is a pseudonym used by children's author Laura Amy Schlitz, whose book ''Good Masters, Sweet Ladies!: Voices from a Medieval Village'' win the 2008 Newberry Medal, and whose book ''Splendors and Glooms'' just recently won a Newberry Honor award. She is also the author of numerous other books for children, including ''A Drowned Maiden's Hair''. She works as a librarian in Baltimore, Maryland.

Authors - C

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[[Category:Authors - XX]] 

'''Leigh Court''' is an award-winning, multi-published author who has been writing since age eleven, starting with wild adventure stories for her elementary school newsletter, growing up to be a television news journalist whose assignments took her on real life adventures.

After traveling most of the world, she segued into the more normal job of public relations, but she's never stopped writing. Having seen what she has of life's struggles, Leigh now writes romantic fiction because she wants her readers to be able to escape into a story guaranteed to have a happy ending!

== On the Web ==
* [http://www.leighcourt.com Leigh Court] - Author's Official Website 
* [http://www.fierceromance.blogspot.com Leigh's blog] - 

== Books ==
=== Fiction ===
* ''[[Conqueror Vanquished]]'' - 2010, ([[Ellora's Cave Publishing]])

== Novellas ==
* "[[The Disciplinarian]]" in ''[[Secrets, Volume 15]]'' - 2005, ([[Red Sage Publishing]])
* "[[The Bet]]" in ''[[Secrets, Volume 27]]'' - 2009, ([[Red Sage Publishing]])
* "[[The Disciplinarian's Daughter]]" in ''[[Secrets, Volume 31]]'' - 2013, ([[Red Sage Publishing]])

== Series/Related Titles ==

The Disciplinarian, The Disciplinarian's Daughter and The Bet are a series of erotic romance stories set in Victorian England.

== Awards/Honors ==

First Coast Romance Writers
THE BEACON - 2010 Published Division
An Award for Excellence in Romance

The Bet by Leigh Court

Romance Novella

Romance Sub-Genres

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[[category:Romance Genres]]

Romance is found in all [[literary genres]]. But the [[Romance Genre|romance genre]] has certain criteria which set it apart from mystery, science fiction or other genres. In turn the romance genre has spawned multiple [[Romance Sub-Genres|sub-genres]]. When it comes to favorite stories, readers have definite preferences. When buying a novel marketed specifically as a "romance", readers can choose from a wide range of story styles:

* [[Adventure Romance]]
* [[African-American]]
* [[Category Romance]] also known as "Series" titles.
* [[Chick-lit]]
* [[Contemporary]]
* [[Dark Fantasy]]
* [[Erotic Romance]]
* [[Erotica]]
* [[Fantasy]]
* [[Futuristic]]
* [[Gothic]]
* [[Historical]]
* [[Inspirational]]
* [[Interracial Romance]]
* [[LGBT]]
* [[Mainstream]]
* [[Menage a trois]]
* [[Medical]]
* [[Military]]
* [[M/M-Romance]]
* [[Multi-Cultural]]
* [[Mystery/Thriller]]
* [[Novel With Strong Romantic Elements]]
* [[Paranormal]]
* [[Regency Romance]]
* [[Science Fiction]]
* [[Single Title]]
* [[Suspense]]
* [[Sweet]]
* [[Time-Travel]]
* [[Traditional]]
* [[Urban Fantasy]]
* [[World War II-Era]]
* [[Yaoi]]
* [[Young Adult]]

Romance Wiki:Community Discussion

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[[category:Help|Community Discussion]]
'''Welcome''' to a new discussion page. This page is used to discuss the general topics that don't fit on an article or user talk page. You can ask questions, discuss policies, contents, operations and technical issues of RomanceWiki. Discussions will be archived once this page gets too long.

{{Talk Page box}}

'''Note:''' The talk page (reached by clicking "discussion" tab at the top of the page) for this '''Community Discussion''' page will be used to discuss things concerning this page itself, e.g., the layout, content.

==What Should We Call This?==
Yay! We have a place to talk about all those things that don't fit anywhere else. But, what should we call this discussion page? On Wikipedia, the page is called the "Village Pump." That does not sound very "romance-y" and we don't want to just copy them. I have suggested elsewhere that we call it the "Tea Room," or "Coffee House." What are your suggestions?--[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 16:02, 19 September 2007 (PDT) ''P.S. While we get the page set up, is it okay to have discussions about this page here. Once we have it going, such discussions should go to the project talk page.''

:Discussion Parlor? --[[User:Robini|Robini]] 19:49, 19 September 2007 (PDT)

::I like Parlor(y) type names, water cooler is good, Tea Room...like that. Or we could go with a Regency theme with Assembly Room(s).--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 09:56, 22 September 2007 (PDT)

:I vote for "Tea Room". --[[User:DawnBurn|DawnBurn]] 14:29, 25 September 2007 (PDT)

==Announcements?==
We could also use this for announcements although that does not seem right. Anyway, there is a new [[Help:Talk Pages]] with a question on its [[Help talk:Talk Pages]]. --[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 16:25, 19 September 2007 (PDT)

==Awards==
I think we need an award for [[User:Leigh]] and [[User:Amy]]. It is a slow day when they are not around adding/fixing hundreds of books! Thanks! --[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 15:00, 29 September 2007 (PDT)
:I second this nomination (though would also note that [[User:Kay T]] and [[User:DawnBurn]] have been equally awesome. I only glanced at the site while on vacation (apparently there's a rule against wiking while on vacation, though I did get a few interesting comments about my RW t-shirt -- wiki means "quick" in Hawaiian!), so it's just awesome to see all the new stuff and, especially, all the content clean-up. I know that Leigh is aware of the offer for a book bag (and Kay's was finally put in the mail!), so Dawn and Amy, if you're needing a bag, let me know.--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 19:48, 29 October 2007 (PDT)
::Um, I'm highly flattered. I do think Leigh & Amy should get awards for most prolific and most page additions. I believe I serve mostly as a gadfly and doing background organizational stuff which appeals to my anal retentative side without requiring new content from me. If you have extra bags, I would be honored to receive one, but I'd prefer to wait until both Leigh & Amy have been contacted because they are super duper awesome. --[[User:DawnBurn|DawnBurn]] 16:05, 30 October 2007 (PDT)
:::Wow, thanks guys :) I have to say I don't add nearly as many pages as Leigh -- I tend to get on something like adding book descriptions to Superromance pages and go and go and go until I find something else to obsess over. What I really need is wiki rehab! :) --[[User:Amy|Amy]] 18:01, 30 October 2007 (PDT)

::::Chocolate for rehab! We need chocolate! We really do appreciate all of your hard work - fixing or adding. I just know that when I first made the comment, I looked at Recent changes and there were no entries from Amy or Leigh yet that day - a slow day indeed! Sort of scary. Felt like I needed to call you to make sure you were okay. ;) And having people understand RomanceWiki well enough to do the behind the scenes stuff is so great! Thanks --[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 16:07, 1 November 2007 (PDT)

==Category: Books by Publisher ==
I have noticed that several publisher categories have been created and used on book pages for that publisher's books. This is not a bad idea, and I created a mega-category: [[:Category:Books By Publisher]]. We could add a publisher category on the book template. What do you all think? --[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 20:20, 29 October 2007 (PDT)
:Looks like we're both up late (okay, heading off to bed after this -- have to return to the Evil Empire tomorrow). I think, way back when, I might have started to categorize books by publisher, but not categories. I quickly realized that the by publisher designation might be useful, but was also unwieldy. Books by imprint -- which is closer, I think, to what you're doing here -- makes more sense. Nobody seeks "Books by Harlequin", but they do seek "Presents" (or Harlequin Presents). Just as with the author designation, it makes sense to categorize books in this way.

:I am guilty of being inconsistent in this regard (having not found my original method of categorizing books by publisher to be particularly effective). I would agitate for imprint over publisher, but publisher if imprint is unknown/not easily discernible. I am strongly in favor of offering the maximum number of options for finding content. Other thoughts?--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 23:46, 29 October 2007 (PDT)

::Yes, I would probably do book imprints since we have started to use those for Harlequin, but for Red Rose it is probably okay to just do the publisher for now. The other publisher category that had been created was for Samhain, but that was one that had been nominated for deletion, and I think you did delete it this weekend. Maybe Dawn or others will have some thoughts on this. I am not wedded to one way or the other. --[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 13:24, 30 October 2007 (PDT)

:::The reason why the Samhain page was up for deletion was because it was a double, IIRC. I'm not against [[:Category:Books By Publisher]] in that the point of RW is to help people find the books they are looking for. However, I do think [[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]]'s notes are potentially troublesome. In that what category do we use for things like Harlequin versus Blaze (Publisher versus Imprint). I think more people do look by imprint,and if each imprint category was a subset of the overarching publisher, that might be good. But we already have inconsistencies in how the imprints are named or referenced on the book pages. I'm realizing I'm not making a preference either way. Umm... yes to having the mega-category being added, and potentially yes to that being added to the template. But realizing that all previously created pages won't have and that we'll likely get duplicates of categories due to spelling/caps/inclusion of publisher and imprint or just imprint/etc. into those categories. --[[User:DawnBurn|DawnBurn]] 16:03, 30 October 2007 (PDT)

::::Darn you Dawn for practicality! Here's my thinking, for what it's worth (about what you're paying...). When I first started, I was a naive babe in the woods. I think -- and someone will surely correct me as it was a rookie error -- I named a page "Romance". It meant either Harlequin or Silhouette Romance (I can't recall), but it was a stupid page name and I'm crossing my fingers that the more organized of us have fixed it.

::::I do believe that people search more by imprint than publisher (though in the case of Harlequin, both are equally popular). If I were to do it all over, I would create a mega-category for each publisher and then a sub-category for each imprint. That would achieve the goal of making sure that information was accessible no matter how people search (and people search in ways you cannot begin to imagine -- if you're ever bored, watch a co-worker or friend or (best) mother search. It's quite stunning and also educational.

::::So I am advocating for a particular hierarchy, but also realizing that this is a huge time suck (and when it comes to the wiki, we all so many of those, right?). But...light, tunnel, all that. If someone has the energy and time to write a set of rules for categorization, I do have a resource who can help. If not, my feeling is we make this a future project while we put guidelines in place for go-forward content. Thoughts, agreements, disagreements, better ideas (you all have way better ideas than moi)...? --[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]], signed for author by [[User:DawnBurn|DawnBurn]] 16:58, 8 November 2007 (PST)

Shock, gasp! You forgot to sign your post, RomanceWiki. My thought was that this could be added to the template and as you said we could add the publisher category going forward, gradually adding to existing books as needed. What other complications are we not thinking of? One is that a category of "Avon" might contain both books, info about the publisher and authors. Does that matter? I also wonder if there is some "easy" way of doing this. At this point, as you see from the mega-category ([[:Category:Books By Publisher]]), there are both imprint categories, publisher categories, and articles with lists of books by publisher. We could also add the numbered series here if we wanted to. hmmm...--[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 13:22, 2 November 2007 (PDT)

:Replying to Kay's post, but the general thread. I have some LIMITED experience with writing code. I might be able to come up with a rule set, if we are talking about a bot. I think this thread speaks to a general "need" to clean up. There is still the [[Romance]] page, and the naming of the imprints (and their associated by the number pages) is um... random at best. But moving all of those pages (nominally annoying) and then fixing all the redirects (way more annoying) could be more easily done by a use of bot, which would then potentially allow at the same a restructuring of the mega-category to allow more searching. So, it might be of benefit to examine if from a complete overhaul instead of just 'going forward.' I'm willing to use what limited code skills I have toward this and I've considered more than once figuring out enough to write a bot that would auto add the Same Title, Multiple Author books to the Books Alpha pages (which, incidentally, I'm not fond of and are incomplete and hard to use, not that I actually have a better suggestion). Umm... short summary:

:Let's talk (here or in group chat) about how it might be best to restructure from the ground up with the use of a bot for any high repetitive tasks in cleanup.--[[User:DawnBurn|DawnBurn]] 16:58, 8 November 2007 (PST)

::Dawn, I think that someone here might have figured out how to use AWB (from Wikipedia) to do some repetitive tasks, and I have wanted to learn but am afraid. :) One of the problems of thinking or talking about a mega-category and the category tree structure is that there is no good way of seeing that structure on the wiki. That even drives me crazy on the [[RomanceWiki:Category Index]] -- hard to show the structure. At one point (many moons ago) I had dumped all the categories into Excel and then made the structure more obvious. How would you suggest we do a restructure? Should we move this to the category index talk page?--[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 13:43, 9 November 2007 (PST)

== Traffic Analysis ==
Before I go back and read what Kay and Dawn are discussing above (lot of words, little coffee), I'll introduce a new idea for those of you who love to waste time on research. When I have time, I like to focus on building up content related to search phrases used to bring (see recent pages for [[Anne Weale]] and [[Sara Seale]] as examples). I've pulled out the approximately [[Top 20 Search Phrases]] that our readers are using (note: this list is edited to toss out things like "romancewiki"). If you're looking for hours of fun, adding content to these pages is the way to go!--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 10:12, 10 November 2007 (PST)

== Discussion Options ==
To make the discussions about structure and content more efficient, I am wondering if we need to create a list, forum, blog (which, yes, is still high on my list -- just waiting for tech guy to add Kay's category page. I am turning into quite the nag on that).--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 10:12, 10 November 2007 (PST)

==Publishers and Books with Same Name==
I've encountered another problem with creating disambiguation pages - books that have the same name as a publisher or imprint. Some examples:
* [[Splendor]] and [[Temptation]] - imprint pages to which another user has added information about a book (sigh)
* [[Genesis]] (publisher) and [[Genesis (CP)]] (book)
Should we create a disambig page listing both the books and imprint (and if so, do the imprint pages need to be moved to "Title - Imprint" -- as we renamed similar anthology pages "Title - Anthology")? The problem with that, of course, is that a ton of links to that imprint will have be changed. Does anyone have a better solution? --[[User:Amy|Amy]] 19:47, 30 November 2007 (PST)

:Funny you should mention this as I encountered this situation this week. In my case, because there were so few links to deal with, I changed the publisher name to the full title. However, since someone (me, I'm ashamed to admit) started off calling Temptation, Temptation, there are far too many links to change (though, I can ask my husband's assistant to do that if we choose to got that route -- she has the, as they say, bandwidth).

:I admit that I like the idea of adding imprints to the disambiguation pages. Sick I know. I am willing to manage the task of dealing with the Temptation and Splendor links (first) if we agree that this is the optimal solution. I'm going to ping Leigh, Kay, and Dawn to weigh in.--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 21:05, 30 November 2007 (PST)

::Sorry, I have not been around lately! I have to say that I like the solution of having the imprint on the disamb page. Of course, thinking about the consequences of this is rather mind-boggling. If we moved '''Temptation''' the imprint to a page called '''Harlequin Temptation''' the the links would automatically redirect. But if we then wanted to make a disamb page called '''Temptation''' we would have to change all the links (I am not sure if that is even doable without a bot, has your "assistant" figured out bots?). I suppose we could call the disamb page '''Temptation (disambiguation)'''?? Don't really have my wiki-hat on right now. In the short term we could just make the book pages with the author's name, a disamb page called '''Temptation (disambiguation)''' and ?? --[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 15:52, 4 December 2007 (PST)

:::Actually, I'm more than halfway through making the page changes (I had some client downtime this week and am taking full advantage of this brief respite!); however, making the change through the database was option two. In fact, I was in the process of writing the rules for this when I realized I was going to be done with the project before I could turn it over. So I'm thinking that when this done (today or tomorrow), I'll contact Amy and she can her piece, I'll do my piece (moving a few authors), and we can add the '''Temptation''' imprint to the disambiguation page. I like that this makes the disambig concept more complete. I like complete.

:::I'm hoping the Genesis project is much smaller, otherwise, I'll go with making the changes on the database side (or, if you will the "bot" solution).--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 11:25, 5 December 2007 (PST)

::::So I haven't been around (just started a new job and didn't see my talk page), but I just wanted to briefly say that I like the idea of having moved the '''Temptation''' to '''Harlequin Temptation'''. And I do think a bot solution could be done (still on my list of things to do is to play with a bot) since it would be a matter of changing all the pages (mostly) that link there. So, in general, I support fuller Imprint Article Titles (Publisher Imprint). --[[User:DawnBurn|DawnBurn]] 11:35, 7 December 2007 (PST)

:::::Kassia, thanks for taking care of the Temptation thing. Fixing [[Splendor]] and [[Genesis]] will much, much shorter since only a couple pages link to them. In fact, I should get [[Splendor]] done tonight. --[[User:Amy|Amy]] 16:37, 10 December 2007 (PST)

::::::Then there's the final one to look at: Desire. It's on my mental radar rather than active radar since the schedule is much tighter this week.--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 19:50, 11 December 2007 (PST)

==Author Page Help==
Hi, this is Lillith Payne. I'm new here and confused!
I set up a basic page and can open it and print it.
I CAN'T OPEN IT FROM THE AUTHOR LIST!
If anyone can give me simple directions to correct this I'd appreciate it.
My thanks, Lillith
:Hi Lillith. Looks like you edited your user page [[User:Lillith Payne]] with your info but didn't create an actual wiki page. I've gone ahead and started one at [[Lillith Payne]] with the info from your user page and added you to the author list so you should be good to go. --[[User:Amy|Amy]] 15:15, 16 January 2008 (PST)

Hi Amy,
Thank you so much for your help. I found the process completely frustrating not being able to find the fix. When I logged on today I knew I must have found a guardian angel. Consider me your random act of kindness for the week. Lillith
:No problem Lillith, glad to help :) --[[User:Amy|Amy]] 14:44, 17 January 2008 (PST)

Hi, My name is Mahalia. I signed up to make a author page for myself but in the url it says User.Mahalia Levey and isn't popping up on google. My mentor has his name to the left in the wiki romance logo. What did I do wrong? Thanks

:Hi Mahalia, You created your author page on your user page. I am not an author, just a romance novel enthusiast so my user page has what I'm updating on this site. The following is a link to your AUTHOR PAGE: [[Mahalia Levey]]. The following is a link to your USER PAGE [[User:Mahalia Levey]]. See the difference in the links? I've moved the information you put on your USER PAGE to your AUTHOR PAGE, so you should be good.--[[User:Greenstrawberry1982|Greenstrawberry1982]] 00:28, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

::Thank you so much Greenstrawberrry1982 How do I add to it when I have more news? Also is there a link for setting up an author page? Others are asking me where to find how to set up an author page. Thank you so much for helping me so quickly. I saw the dif in the links, I just didn't know where to go to fill out more info on the author link.

::: ANSWERS:
::: Question 1: ''How do I add to it when I have more news?''
::: Answer 1: Step 1. Sign in to romancewiki.com.
:::: Step 2: Using the romancewiki search function, search for your name (i.e.''Mahalia Levey''). In the research results, click on the link to your page. You could also go to the author lists, find your name and click on it.
:::: Step 3: At the top of your author page there are tabs labeled: ''page, discussion, edit, history, move, watch''. Click the ''edit'' tab and start adding editing your author page. (FYI, If you don't sign in to romancewiki first the ''edit'' tab will be replaced with a tab labeled ''source.'' this allows you to view the text you previously wrote but not to change it).
:::: Note: At this point it would be good to watch your author page by clicking on the ''watch'' tab at the top of your author page. The watch tab adds your author page to your ''my watchlist.'' Whenever you sign-in in the future, click your ''my watchlist'' link at the upper right-hand corner. If a page you are watching has been changed since you last visited, you will see it on your ''my watchlist.'' You can also have romancewiki email you when someone other than yourself makes any changes to your any pages you are watching (go to your ''my preferences'' link, seen at the upper right-hand corner of the page. to enable this function). After clicking on the watch tab. the tab should change to ''unwatch''. FYI, you can do this for any page you are interested in (i.e. your book pages). If you have already done this, great!

::: Question 2: ''Also is there a link for setting up an author page?''
::: Answer 2: Look to the left-hand column of this website and click on the ''Help'' link, Look for the section ''Editing Romancewiki'' and look in that section for the link to ''Author Pages''. The link gives you step-by-step instructions on how to setup an author page and provides a template.

::: You also might want to set-up the ability for other uses of romancewiki to be able to e-mail you. I would have e-mailed you telling you I had posted an answer for you (go to you ''my preferences'' link to enable this function). Note: I will not know your e-mail address. the function just enables me to send a message to you via romancewiki (romancewiki is actually the one that send my message to you).
:::: Hope my answers helped.--[[User:Greenstrawberry1982|Greenstrawberry1982]] 18:42, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

:::::Thank you so much. yes they did. I am not a big techy person so learning codes or how to do things is the bane of my existence. You've done so much to help and I really appreciate it.

Hi! My name is Annie Alvarez and I seem to have the same problem as Mahalia. I set up an author page, but when I click on it from the Authors list, it says my page hasn't been written, yet. I know I wrote it, I can see it when I log in. What did I do wrong? Thanks.

:Seems like you solved your own problem. Good work!--[[User:Greenstrawberry1982|Greenstrawberry1982]] 18:20, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

== RW Workflow ==
Rather than post this on my personal page (which I'm sure is out there somewhere!), I just thought I'd give a quick update about the big content stuff in progress (especially since Amy and Leigh are going gangbusters!). I'm adding author pages for all the [[Silhouette Romance]] authors and will do the by the numbers pages if someone doesn't beat me to it (I have all the content ready to roll when I get that far in my file). After that, I will go back and add the author pages for [[Harlequin Temptation]] authors. For some bizarre reason -- old age, probably -- I did the by the numbers pages, but never did all the work for each author. Quite a few have already been created by others, so I'll be filling in the gaps there. Phew!

On a go-forward basis, I am building a whole slate of author pages for various category lines. This is going alphabetically by author and should take a good long time. However, we'll have a huge database of romance authors with the best biographical information I can find (and yeah, if you know stuff I don't...). After that, I'll need to come up with a game plan for the rest of the bunch, but since I'm still on the "A" list of authors, I'm not rushing there.

To add some color, especially for older authors without much information, I'm also tracking down at least one halfway decent cover image. If anyone needs me to work on something else, just give a shout-out. Since this current workplan is so huge, I don't mind getting sidetracked a bit.

Also, I'm thinking we need to give some love to writing romance -- anyone know anyone who might be a great resource for this?--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 21:30, 24 January 2008 (PST)

:"''give some love to writing romance''"

:What did you have in mind here RW? Good game plan, I somehow missed this when I was here the other day. --[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 17:46, 2 February 2008 (PST)

::Specifically, I referring to building a good, strong writer resource section. I know we have some bits and pieces here and there, but it would be terrific to have an organized section. It's really the one area where we haven't made inroads, content-wise. It's on my long-term mental plan of things to do, but given my current workplan, it's a seriously future deal.--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 21:09, 6 February 2008 (PST)

:::Yes, we could use some more here. Just for future reference, I have tried to keep up lists and links on the [[Resources]] page and in the [[:category:Romance Resources]]. --[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 21:08, 7 February 2008 (PST)

==Publisher's lines, numbered series==
Leigh has been busy cleaning up the pages that contain lists of books in publisher's lines. Proactively, should we have a section in the [[Help:Style Manual|style manual]] that says something like:

'''Publisher Imprints & Lines''' 
When creating a page for a publisher's imprint, for example, [[Intimate Moments]], it is best to include the name of the publisher in the title, [[Silhouette Intimate Moments]]. This makes it clearer that the article is about an imprint or line and not about a book with that title.

What do we think?? --[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 11:49, 31 January 2008 (PST)
: That sounds like a good idea to me. --[[User:Leigh|Leigh]]
::I am in agreement with Leigh (who has been doing amazing work lately!). As noted above, I am doing loads and loads of author pages (which will be added to wiki as I get through the previous things -- there is something about having a queue that makes me excited), and I am using the publisher pages as guidelines when I create my links.

::If Leigh needs to push some mindless content clean-up my way, just say the word. There are days when I need to put the brain on auto-pilot (especially lately...if only I had the time to do so!). ''And'' the husband's assistant is available for projects -- she's super tech savvy and has done a few wiki projects already. Wiki projects are not highest priority (!@@#$ men!), but tell me if there's something that you can't get to.--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 20:58, 31 January 2008 (PST)

{{done}}
--[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 17:52, 2 February 2008 (PST)
::Kay -- I love the little graphics. They make me smile!--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 20:43, 6 February 2008 (PST)

:::Yes, it is so perky! Hope your temporary dislocation is going okay, and you have found some books to read! even if you weren't dislocated we are in a dry spell, I think. --[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 21:08, 7 February 2008 (PST)

==Author Page Help==
Hi, my name is Cheryl A. Cornell. I set up a new page for myself yesterday, 2/9/08 for my first published novel, Treasure Found through The Wild Rose Press. Thought I followed the directions but I'm not showing up on the author list. If anyone has any ideas what I did wrong or how to fix it I'd appreciate any information you can give. I believed I edited the page but wasn't able to create it. Thanks to anyone who can help, Cheryl 10:35AM 2-10-08

*I'm not sure if there was some database funkiness, or if you actually set up your info on your user page by mistake. User pages are different than author pages, because not every wiki user is an author - I've got a user page frex., but I'm just an editor. Anyways, I went ahead and added a page for you in the actual content of the wiki (user page "space" is different) and filled out the sorting/listing stuff for you. Your page can be found at [[Cheryl A. Cornell]], and I filled out what I could of the Standard wiki template. You can edit it as you see fit, and delete the sections that don't apply to you (like pseudonyms). Also, if you click on the link for your book, I've loaded the books page template onto that page. You can click "edit" and fill out the info for your book, specifically. --[[User:Robini|Robini]] 13:37, 10 February 2008 (PST)

==Thanks for Author Help==
Hi Robini,
Thanks for your help getting this straight and posted. I truly appreciate
you giving me your time and knowledge; as you can tell this is beyond what my brain can compute. It's nice to be in a place where people actually help each other. I appreciate the welcome, Cheryl 2/11/08 9:52AM

== HQ Series Numbering Discussion ==
Hi Teresa, I'm pasting your question below first, then trying to answer the question (I'm still out of town ... and down with a nasty cold, so if I'm incoherent, excuse me):
<blockquote>I have resently downloaded the Presents and Romance by the number pages to have a complete list of the titles. The problem i'm having is that there seems to be 2 seperate and distince collections in both. I don't understand how this is possible. Is there someplace else i can find the alternate lists?</blockquote>
What we're using here at the RomanceWiki is the US numbering system. The lines are also released in other countries, so that might account for differences. Or there is (always) the possibility of user error -- especially when it comes to the very early [[Harlequin Romance]] titles as I had to do a lot of digging to find those titles (and, yeah, I've whined to the Harlequin people about this, but I suspect they don't have a database going back to day one either).

If you're finding differences, I'd appreciate it if you brought them to my attention, or, since [[:User:Leigh|Leigh]] has been uber-terrific about adding content to these sections, her. We definitely want to get it right!--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 17:26, 11 March 2008 (PDT)
: It looks like Harlequin released some Romance and Presents titles to subscribers only in the late 80s/90s. The numbering for these books began again at 1 rather than fitting into the numbers of the retail books, creating a second set of Romance and Presents books whose numbers were significantly lower than the regular ones released at the same time, even though there doesn't seem to be much difference in their covers or content. We probably should add pages for these lists too, but I don't know what they should be called. --[[User:Leigh|Leigh]]

::Okay, I do have those subscription listings in my (extremely long) queue! I am adding the word "Subscription" to the end of the imprint name (ie, Harlequin Romance Subscription By The Numbers, etc). Since it's going to be a while before I upload these lists (I have found -- don't call me a slow learn (g) -- that if I do the author listings ''before'' I do the By The Numbers pages, I can correct for many of the "same title, multiple author" scenarios without having to do a lot of rework), if someone wants to start these listings now, just follow the above syntax so things will line up nicely with the categories. If for some reason it's deemed that a better title would work, just let me know and I'll do a search and replace in my text file (it won't be the first, nor the last!).--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 15:22, 13 March 2008 (PDT)
:::I went ahead and started the pages. I'll add the titles ASAP. --[[User:Leigh|Leigh]]

==Vintage Romance Novels - best places to find==
I collect vintage Gothic Romance and Romantic Suspense novels (and have fallen in love with adding them here) but anyway back to the point - I used to be able to pick these up quite easily at books sales, garage sales, and flea markets. But not anymore they are becoming harder and harder to find. The only place I can usually get them at consistently is at Ebay. I have found another site that is fun that does have a lot of vintage novels on it and I am picking up quite a few of the [[Mystique]] books that I don't have there. It is [http://paperbackswap.com Paper Back Swap] - I've found it useful to list my duplicates. So the question is - what other resources do you guys use?? Anyone else know of other websites that you can get vintage paperbacks on at a reasonable price?? --[[User:Devilbuny|Devilbuny]] 05:10, 20 May 2008 (PDT)
:I don't buy as many vintage romances as I used to, though I have a weakness for 1950's era medical romances -- which I pick up at a vintage bookstore when I get out that way (my schedule is too insane to contemplate trying eBay or other sources). I think there used to be a group called Bookstore Junkies (might want to check Yahoogroups) that was a terrific resource for swaps.

:You might want to set up a page for other readers who are looking for great sources for classic books...I'm sure there are lots of great resources out there!--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 20:11, 20 May 2008 (PDT)

==What style for anthologies?==
Hello! I'm a little confused about which style to use for anthologies. I've seen different styles [[A Gift Of Love - Anthology]], [[Taming Him - Anthology]] (and also creating some by myself :( [[A Holiday Of Love]], [[Upon A Midnight Clear - Anthology]]) and before I change them, I would like to know if there's a prefered style? And if so, could someone please include the style into the book template? And should I treat the novellas like book titels by creating a link (and later an own page)? [[User:Sweety1746|Sweety1746]] 05:56, 1 October 2008 (PDT)

: I believe the style is still being debated. As I think about it, my personal preference is to omit the word "Anthology" from the page title. However, it makes sense to add it in those instances where you encounter multiple books with the same title (in keeping with the style guide of adding the author names in these situations). I am open to opinions, of course. I don't create a lot of book entries, so would like to hear from those who focus on that area.

: Novellas are tricky because it's sometimes hard to distinguish them from short stories. I tend to be more traditional style guide in this regard, creating a book page for the entire book and including information about each individual story on that page. On the author pages (and I admit I've changed my mind since the early days of adding content), I go with this approach:
:: <nowiki>* "Tame, Tame, Tame", ''[[Taming Him]]'' - 2008 ([[Publisher]]), with [[other author]], [[other author]] (if other authors are applicable</nowiki>
--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 17:46, 3 October 2008 (PDT)

==Lists by last name and first name==
I need some help with this lists by surname and subname and such. I hope I can correctly explain what I mean. So, first let's see if I got all this lists right: 1. There are lists (i.e. [[Authors - C]]), in which the authors are sorted by their last name (surname), but I have to add an author by hand. I use this if I just can recall the last name of an author.
2. Lists, that sort the authors by first names within all authors with the same initial of the last name (i.e. [http://www.romancewiki.com/Category:Authors_-_C]). Here the author appears automatically when I put the right category on the author's page. This list is useful if I can remember an author's first name, but am not sure about the last name (though I can exclude some possibilities).
So what is the line "DEFAULTSORT:Last name, First name" in the author template good for? If I use it, the author will be sorted by the last name in the 2. list, which makes no sense according to the discription on page "Category:Authors By Subname".
And by the way, what is a "subname"? I coudn't find a translation or definition anywhere.[[User:Sweety1746|Sweety1746]] 07:11, 1 October 2008 (PDT)
: Here is the rule of thumb for these lists:
: # The alphabetical author pages are straight alpha listings, done, as you've noted manually. People search for content in multiple ways. These author listings (which I always use as my starting point when I add a new author page) are a convenience. They should be alphabetical by last name, first name.
: # The category listings relate to question three. Categories are very cool for slicing and dicing content. However...
: # If you do not use the DEFAULTSORT option, then the names do not properly alphabetize on the page. DEFAULTSORT tells the software to use X order when displaying the content within the categories. Default sort Wiki, Romance places the information in the "W" area. Default sort Romance Wiki places it in the "R" area. It's preferable to have authors sort by last and first (it just looks better that way). I also use DEFAULTSORT with books whose titles begin with articles:
:: <nowiki>{{DEFAULTSORT:Spy Who Loved Me, The}}</nowiki>
: So, items two and three work hand-in-hand. Since item one is a manually generated list, it's up to the user to get the information in the right place. Does all this make sense, or have I muddied the waters even more? --[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 17:38, 3 October 2008 (PDT)
::Ok, thanks so far, but I think I'm still trying to figure out the "aim" of this lists created by using DEFAULTSORT. I created a page for Gayle Callen and naturally I added "Category:Authors - C" so she is in the right category. There, without using DEFAULSORT, she is in the "G" area after Gay Cameron (although Callen alphabethically comes before Cameron). And that's how I understand it should be according to the description on the general page (http://www.romancewiki.com/Category:Authors_By_Subname). Quote: "In the Subcategories below the authors are alphabetized by their first names, i.e., an author named Amy Andrews will appear before Anne Anderson." In this example, both authors are listed in category A because of their last name and in the "A" area because of their first name. And if there's an author named Mary Andrews, she will be also in category A, but in the "M" area, ''won't she''? (question#1)
::But if I use DEFAULTSORT for my author, she is listed by her last name and appears as "Gaylen Callen" (first name - last name) in the "C" area. Only when there is another author with last name "Callen", they will be alphabetized by their first names. So, if I use DEFAULTSORT for all authors whose last names beginn with "C", there will be no subdividing into different areas in category C because all authors will be listed by their last names and so appear in the same area? (question#2) And then the example on the general page isn't correct!
::And, considerin all things, using DEFAULTSORT will automatically create a list without areas and only (no offence) because the style "first name - last name" doesn't look good and maybe isn't good to search through there are these other "handmade" lists "last name - first name"? (question#3)
::Please, let the answers to all three questions always be: "Correct!" :)

::: The description of the subcategories versus articles is incorrect.The [[:Category:Authors By Subname|Authors By Subname]] is automatically generated to pick up both categorized content and articles (which is really a redundant concept if all authors have been, at least, categorized correctly -- not everyone updates the manual list). Using DEFAULTSORT correctly alphabetizes authors by last, first no matter which category they're in, so I prefer it that way (and, if I recall correctly, [[:User:Kay T]] did a lot of work to fix missing DEFAULTS. It looks like it's time to clean up other entries again.
::: Getting closer to answering your question?
:::: Yeah, thanks. Now I understand the concept and will use DEFAULTSORT myself and add it on pages where it's still missing.

==Why do we have two or more of the same category?==

As I was starting to edit a couple of author pages, I noticed two or more of the same category.

Nora Roberts' page has Category: Writers who use Pen Names (which is a redirect to Category: Authors With Pseudonyms). I understand there being a category for Authors With Multiple Identities (if he or she has more than one pseudonym), but why the use of a redirect for the Pen Name? Should both be added to an author's page? Should one be added to the author's pseudonym page?

I'm just wondering what should be used since I'm adding an author's pen name to her page. It's funny how this author's pen name is mentioned on Wikipedia, but not on here. her pen name's books are listed on here, as well as some quotes, but no connection to the author - odd. --[[User:CreativeSoul7981|CreativeSoul7981]] 12:50, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

: Sometimes it's a matter of semantics (I prefer pseudonym, someone else prefers pen name). I tend to clean up this kind of double-tagging when I encounter it because it's confusing (redundant tagging is not bad thing as people do use different terminology, and it's good to offer alternatives when they make sense).

: I agree with RomanceWiki.--[[User:Greenstrawberry1982|Greenstrawberry1982]] 06:09, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

==Another Book With the Same Title==
I started to add a new book to my page. I added the brackets, but when I went to edit/create that page for that book, there was already another book listed with the same title. How can I add my book? Thanks!
[[User:Linda Mooney|Linda Mooney]] 23:43, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

: See [[Help:Same Title Multiple Authors]] for instructions.--[[User:Greenstrawberry1982|Greenstrawberry1982]] 01:04, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

==UK Series Numbers==

Do UK Mills & Boon Books have series numbers anymore? If so, does anyone have a site that actually says what they are? The UK Mills & Boon Website does not say.--[[User:Greenstrawberry1982|Greenstrawberry1982]] 14:32, 24 June 2011 (PDT)

==Error Creating Thumbnaill==

I've been uploading some book covers and whilst the picture has downloaded, on the page created for the book it says 'thumbnail error' instead of showing the downloaded image. Not had this problem before, don't know why it's happened or how to fix it. Help!

--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 12:59, 26 February 2013 (PST)I'm not sure why this is happening, but I did notice there were quite a few of these errors when I was cleaning up unused images. It appeared the upload to the site didn't happen properly, but I'll ask the tech dude to check into this to see if there is something weird going on. Can you send me a link to a page that is having this problem?

Here's a link to two of the pages, thanks. http://www.romancewiki.com/Tangle_In_Sunshine
http://www.romancewiki.com/Young_Tracy

Still working on this, but one fix is in place. On Young Tracy, it appears the files aren't uploaded. I can access one of the Tangle in Sunshines. Sorry for being so frustrating on this issue, but there may be multiple issues (first fix seems to address a problem with the webhost). Can you try re-uploading the Young Tracy files? Hoping to see some success! --[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 20:00, 3 March 2013 (PST)

Romance Wiki:Community Discussion

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[[category:Help|Community Discussion]]
'''Welcome''' to a new discussion page. This page is used to discuss the general topics that don't fit on an article or user talk page. You can ask questions, discuss policies, contents, operations and technical issues of RomanceWiki. Discussions will be archived once this page gets too long.

{{Talk Page box}}

'''Note:''' The talk page (reached by clicking "discussion" tab at the top of the page) for this '''Community Discussion''' page will be used to discuss things concerning this page itself, e.g., the layout, content.

==What Should We Call This?==
Yay! We have a place to talk about all those things that don't fit anywhere else. But, what should we call this discussion page? On Wikipedia, the page is called the "Village Pump." That does not sound very "romance-y" and we don't want to just copy them. I have suggested elsewhere that we call it the "Tea Room," or "Coffee House." What are your suggestions?--[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 16:02, 19 September 2007 (PDT) ''P.S. While we get the page set up, is it okay to have discussions about this page here. Once we have it going, such discussions should go to the project talk page.''

:Discussion Parlor? --[[User:Robini|Robini]] 19:49, 19 September 2007 (PDT)

::I like Parlor(y) type names, water cooler is good, Tea Room...like that. Or we could go with a Regency theme with Assembly Room(s).--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 09:56, 22 September 2007 (PDT)

:I vote for "Tea Room". --[[User:DawnBurn|DawnBurn]] 14:29, 25 September 2007 (PDT)

==Announcements?==
We could also use this for announcements although that does not seem right. Anyway, there is a new [[Help:Talk Pages]] with a question on its [[Help talk:Talk Pages]]. --[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 16:25, 19 September 2007 (PDT)

==Awards==
I think we need an award for [[User:Leigh]] and [[User:Amy]]. It is a slow day when they are not around adding/fixing hundreds of books! Thanks! --[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 15:00, 29 September 2007 (PDT)
:I second this nomination (though would also note that [[User:Kay T]] and [[User:DawnBurn]] have been equally awesome. I only glanced at the site while on vacation (apparently there's a rule against wiking while on vacation, though I did get a few interesting comments about my RW t-shirt -- wiki means "quick" in Hawaiian!), so it's just awesome to see all the new stuff and, especially, all the content clean-up. I know that Leigh is aware of the offer for a book bag (and Kay's was finally put in the mail!), so Dawn and Amy, if you're needing a bag, let me know.--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 19:48, 29 October 2007 (PDT)
::Um, I'm highly flattered. I do think Leigh & Amy should get awards for most prolific and most page additions. I believe I serve mostly as a gadfly and doing background organizational stuff which appeals to my anal retentative side without requiring new content from me. If you have extra bags, I would be honored to receive one, but I'd prefer to wait until both Leigh & Amy have been contacted because they are super duper awesome. --[[User:DawnBurn|DawnBurn]] 16:05, 30 October 2007 (PDT)
:::Wow, thanks guys :) I have to say I don't add nearly as many pages as Leigh -- I tend to get on something like adding book descriptions to Superromance pages and go and go and go until I find something else to obsess over. What I really need is wiki rehab! :) --[[User:Amy|Amy]] 18:01, 30 October 2007 (PDT)

::::Chocolate for rehab! We need chocolate! We really do appreciate all of your hard work - fixing or adding. I just know that when I first made the comment, I looked at Recent changes and there were no entries from Amy or Leigh yet that day - a slow day indeed! Sort of scary. Felt like I needed to call you to make sure you were okay. ;) And having people understand RomanceWiki well enough to do the behind the scenes stuff is so great! Thanks --[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 16:07, 1 November 2007 (PDT)

==Category: Books by Publisher ==
I have noticed that several publisher categories have been created and used on book pages for that publisher's books. This is not a bad idea, and I created a mega-category: [[:Category:Books By Publisher]]. We could add a publisher category on the book template. What do you all think? --[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 20:20, 29 October 2007 (PDT)
:Looks like we're both up late (okay, heading off to bed after this -- have to return to the Evil Empire tomorrow). I think, way back when, I might have started to categorize books by publisher, but not categories. I quickly realized that the by publisher designation might be useful, but was also unwieldy. Books by imprint -- which is closer, I think, to what you're doing here -- makes more sense. Nobody seeks "Books by Harlequin", but they do seek "Presents" (or Harlequin Presents). Just as with the author designation, it makes sense to categorize books in this way.

:I am guilty of being inconsistent in this regard (having not found my original method of categorizing books by publisher to be particularly effective). I would agitate for imprint over publisher, but publisher if imprint is unknown/not easily discernible. I am strongly in favor of offering the maximum number of options for finding content. Other thoughts?--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 23:46, 29 October 2007 (PDT)

::Yes, I would probably do book imprints since we have started to use those for Harlequin, but for Red Rose it is probably okay to just do the publisher for now. The other publisher category that had been created was for Samhain, but that was one that had been nominated for deletion, and I think you did delete it this weekend. Maybe Dawn or others will have some thoughts on this. I am not wedded to one way or the other. --[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 13:24, 30 October 2007 (PDT)

:::The reason why the Samhain page was up for deletion was because it was a double, IIRC. I'm not against [[:Category:Books By Publisher]] in that the point of RW is to help people find the books they are looking for. However, I do think [[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]]'s notes are potentially troublesome. In that what category do we use for things like Harlequin versus Blaze (Publisher versus Imprint). I think more people do look by imprint,and if each imprint category was a subset of the overarching publisher, that might be good. But we already have inconsistencies in how the imprints are named or referenced on the book pages. I'm realizing I'm not making a preference either way. Umm... yes to having the mega-category being added, and potentially yes to that being added to the template. But realizing that all previously created pages won't have and that we'll likely get duplicates of categories due to spelling/caps/inclusion of publisher and imprint or just imprint/etc. into those categories. --[[User:DawnBurn|DawnBurn]] 16:03, 30 October 2007 (PDT)

::::Darn you Dawn for practicality! Here's my thinking, for what it's worth (about what you're paying...). When I first started, I was a naive babe in the woods. I think -- and someone will surely correct me as it was a rookie error -- I named a page "Romance". It meant either Harlequin or Silhouette Romance (I can't recall), but it was a stupid page name and I'm crossing my fingers that the more organized of us have fixed it.

::::I do believe that people search more by imprint than publisher (though in the case of Harlequin, both are equally popular). If I were to do it all over, I would create a mega-category for each publisher and then a sub-category for each imprint. That would achieve the goal of making sure that information was accessible no matter how people search (and people search in ways you cannot begin to imagine -- if you're ever bored, watch a co-worker or friend or (best) mother search. It's quite stunning and also educational.

::::So I am advocating for a particular hierarchy, but also realizing that this is a huge time suck (and when it comes to the wiki, we all so many of those, right?). But...light, tunnel, all that. If someone has the energy and time to write a set of rules for categorization, I do have a resource who can help. If not, my feeling is we make this a future project while we put guidelines in place for go-forward content. Thoughts, agreements, disagreements, better ideas (you all have way better ideas than moi)...? --[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]], signed for author by [[User:DawnBurn|DawnBurn]] 16:58, 8 November 2007 (PST)

Shock, gasp! You forgot to sign your post, RomanceWiki. My thought was that this could be added to the template and as you said we could add the publisher category going forward, gradually adding to existing books as needed. What other complications are we not thinking of? One is that a category of "Avon" might contain both books, info about the publisher and authors. Does that matter? I also wonder if there is some "easy" way of doing this. At this point, as you see from the mega-category ([[:Category:Books By Publisher]]), there are both imprint categories, publisher categories, and articles with lists of books by publisher. We could also add the numbered series here if we wanted to. hmmm...--[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 13:22, 2 November 2007 (PDT)

:Replying to Kay's post, but the general thread. I have some LIMITED experience with writing code. I might be able to come up with a rule set, if we are talking about a bot. I think this thread speaks to a general "need" to clean up. There is still the [[Romance]] page, and the naming of the imprints (and their associated by the number pages) is um... random at best. But moving all of those pages (nominally annoying) and then fixing all the redirects (way more annoying) could be more easily done by a use of bot, which would then potentially allow at the same a restructuring of the mega-category to allow more searching. So, it might be of benefit to examine if from a complete overhaul instead of just 'going forward.' I'm willing to use what limited code skills I have toward this and I've considered more than once figuring out enough to write a bot that would auto add the Same Title, Multiple Author books to the Books Alpha pages (which, incidentally, I'm not fond of and are incomplete and hard to use, not that I actually have a better suggestion). Umm... short summary:

:Let's talk (here or in group chat) about how it might be best to restructure from the ground up with the use of a bot for any high repetitive tasks in cleanup.--[[User:DawnBurn|DawnBurn]] 16:58, 8 November 2007 (PST)

::Dawn, I think that someone here might have figured out how to use AWB (from Wikipedia) to do some repetitive tasks, and I have wanted to learn but am afraid. :) One of the problems of thinking or talking about a mega-category and the category tree structure is that there is no good way of seeing that structure on the wiki. That even drives me crazy on the [[RomanceWiki:Category Index]] -- hard to show the structure. At one point (many moons ago) I had dumped all the categories into Excel and then made the structure more obvious. How would you suggest we do a restructure? Should we move this to the category index talk page?--[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 13:43, 9 November 2007 (PST)

== Traffic Analysis ==
Before I go back and read what Kay and Dawn are discussing above (lot of words, little coffee), I'll introduce a new idea for those of you who love to waste time on research. When I have time, I like to focus on building up content related to search phrases used to bring (see recent pages for [[Anne Weale]] and [[Sara Seale]] as examples). I've pulled out the approximately [[Top 20 Search Phrases]] that our readers are using (note: this list is edited to toss out things like "romancewiki"). If you're looking for hours of fun, adding content to these pages is the way to go!--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 10:12, 10 November 2007 (PST)

== Discussion Options ==
To make the discussions about structure and content more efficient, I am wondering if we need to create a list, forum, blog (which, yes, is still high on my list -- just waiting for tech guy to add Kay's category page. I am turning into quite the nag on that).--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 10:12, 10 November 2007 (PST)

==Publishers and Books with Same Name==
I've encountered another problem with creating disambiguation pages - books that have the same name as a publisher or imprint. Some examples:
* [[Splendor]] and [[Temptation]] - imprint pages to which another user has added information about a book (sigh)
* [[Genesis]] (publisher) and [[Genesis (CP)]] (book)
Should we create a disambig page listing both the books and imprint (and if so, do the imprint pages need to be moved to "Title - Imprint" -- as we renamed similar anthology pages "Title - Anthology")? The problem with that, of course, is that a ton of links to that imprint will have be changed. Does anyone have a better solution? --[[User:Amy|Amy]] 19:47, 30 November 2007 (PST)

:Funny you should mention this as I encountered this situation this week. In my case, because there were so few links to deal with, I changed the publisher name to the full title. However, since someone (me, I'm ashamed to admit) started off calling Temptation, Temptation, there are far too many links to change (though, I can ask my husband's assistant to do that if we choose to got that route -- she has the, as they say, bandwidth).

:I admit that I like the idea of adding imprints to the disambiguation pages. Sick I know. I am willing to manage the task of dealing with the Temptation and Splendor links (first) if we agree that this is the optimal solution. I'm going to ping Leigh, Kay, and Dawn to weigh in.--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 21:05, 30 November 2007 (PST)

::Sorry, I have not been around lately! I have to say that I like the solution of having the imprint on the disamb page. Of course, thinking about the consequences of this is rather mind-boggling. If we moved '''Temptation''' the imprint to a page called '''Harlequin Temptation''' the the links would automatically redirect. But if we then wanted to make a disamb page called '''Temptation''' we would have to change all the links (I am not sure if that is even doable without a bot, has your "assistant" figured out bots?). I suppose we could call the disamb page '''Temptation (disambiguation)'''?? Don't really have my wiki-hat on right now. In the short term we could just make the book pages with the author's name, a disamb page called '''Temptation (disambiguation)''' and ?? --[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 15:52, 4 December 2007 (PST)

:::Actually, I'm more than halfway through making the page changes (I had some client downtime this week and am taking full advantage of this brief respite!); however, making the change through the database was option two. In fact, I was in the process of writing the rules for this when I realized I was going to be done with the project before I could turn it over. So I'm thinking that when this done (today or tomorrow), I'll contact Amy and she can her piece, I'll do my piece (moving a few authors), and we can add the '''Temptation''' imprint to the disambiguation page. I like that this makes the disambig concept more complete. I like complete.

:::I'm hoping the Genesis project is much smaller, otherwise, I'll go with making the changes on the database side (or, if you will the "bot" solution).--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 11:25, 5 December 2007 (PST)

::::So I haven't been around (just started a new job and didn't see my talk page), but I just wanted to briefly say that I like the idea of having moved the '''Temptation''' to '''Harlequin Temptation'''. And I do think a bot solution could be done (still on my list of things to do is to play with a bot) since it would be a matter of changing all the pages (mostly) that link there. So, in general, I support fuller Imprint Article Titles (Publisher Imprint). --[[User:DawnBurn|DawnBurn]] 11:35, 7 December 2007 (PST)

:::::Kassia, thanks for taking care of the Temptation thing. Fixing [[Splendor]] and [[Genesis]] will much, much shorter since only a couple pages link to them. In fact, I should get [[Splendor]] done tonight. --[[User:Amy|Amy]] 16:37, 10 December 2007 (PST)

::::::Then there's the final one to look at: Desire. It's on my mental radar rather than active radar since the schedule is much tighter this week.--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 19:50, 11 December 2007 (PST)

==Author Page Help==
Hi, this is Lillith Payne. I'm new here and confused!
I set up a basic page and can open it and print it.
I CAN'T OPEN IT FROM THE AUTHOR LIST!
If anyone can give me simple directions to correct this I'd appreciate it.
My thanks, Lillith
:Hi Lillith. Looks like you edited your user page [[User:Lillith Payne]] with your info but didn't create an actual wiki page. I've gone ahead and started one at [[Lillith Payne]] with the info from your user page and added you to the author list so you should be good to go. --[[User:Amy|Amy]] 15:15, 16 January 2008 (PST)

Hi Amy,
Thank you so much for your help. I found the process completely frustrating not being able to find the fix. When I logged on today I knew I must have found a guardian angel. Consider me your random act of kindness for the week. Lillith
:No problem Lillith, glad to help :) --[[User:Amy|Amy]] 14:44, 17 January 2008 (PST)

Hi, My name is Mahalia. I signed up to make a author page for myself but in the url it says User.Mahalia Levey and isn't popping up on google. My mentor has his name to the left in the wiki romance logo. What did I do wrong? Thanks

:Hi Mahalia, You created your author page on your user page. I am not an author, just a romance novel enthusiast so my user page has what I'm updating on this site. The following is a link to your AUTHOR PAGE: [[Mahalia Levey]]. The following is a link to your USER PAGE [[User:Mahalia Levey]]. See the difference in the links? I've moved the information you put on your USER PAGE to your AUTHOR PAGE, so you should be good.--[[User:Greenstrawberry1982|Greenstrawberry1982]] 00:28, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

::Thank you so much Greenstrawberrry1982 How do I add to it when I have more news? Also is there a link for setting up an author page? Others are asking me where to find how to set up an author page. Thank you so much for helping me so quickly. I saw the dif in the links, I just didn't know where to go to fill out more info on the author link.

::: ANSWERS:
::: Question 1: ''How do I add to it when I have more news?''
::: Answer 1: Step 1. Sign in to romancewiki.com.
:::: Step 2: Using the romancewiki search function, search for your name (i.e.''Mahalia Levey''). In the research results, click on the link to your page. You could also go to the author lists, find your name and click on it.
:::: Step 3: At the top of your author page there are tabs labeled: ''page, discussion, edit, history, move, watch''. Click the ''edit'' tab and start adding editing your author page. (FYI, If you don't sign in to romancewiki first the ''edit'' tab will be replaced with a tab labeled ''source.'' this allows you to view the text you previously wrote but not to change it).
:::: Note: At this point it would be good to watch your author page by clicking on the ''watch'' tab at the top of your author page. The watch tab adds your author page to your ''my watchlist.'' Whenever you sign-in in the future, click your ''my watchlist'' link at the upper right-hand corner. If a page you are watching has been changed since you last visited, you will see it on your ''my watchlist.'' You can also have romancewiki email you when someone other than yourself makes any changes to your any pages you are watching (go to your ''my preferences'' link, seen at the upper right-hand corner of the page. to enable this function). After clicking on the watch tab. the tab should change to ''unwatch''. FYI, you can do this for any page you are interested in (i.e. your book pages). If you have already done this, great!

::: Question 2: ''Also is there a link for setting up an author page?''
::: Answer 2: Look to the left-hand column of this website and click on the ''Help'' link, Look for the section ''Editing Romancewiki'' and look in that section for the link to ''Author Pages''. The link gives you step-by-step instructions on how to setup an author page and provides a template.

::: You also might want to set-up the ability for other uses of romancewiki to be able to e-mail you. I would have e-mailed you telling you I had posted an answer for you (go to you ''my preferences'' link to enable this function). Note: I will not know your e-mail address. the function just enables me to send a message to you via romancewiki (romancewiki is actually the one that send my message to you).
:::: Hope my answers helped.--[[User:Greenstrawberry1982|Greenstrawberry1982]] 18:42, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

:::::Thank you so much. yes they did. I am not a big techy person so learning codes or how to do things is the bane of my existence. You've done so much to help and I really appreciate it.

Hi! My name is Annie Alvarez and I seem to have the same problem as Mahalia. I set up an author page, but when I click on it from the Authors list, it says my page hasn't been written, yet. I know I wrote it, I can see it when I log in. What did I do wrong? Thanks.

:Seems like you solved your own problem. Good work!--[[User:Greenstrawberry1982|Greenstrawberry1982]] 18:20, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

== RW Workflow ==
Rather than post this on my personal page (which I'm sure is out there somewhere!), I just thought I'd give a quick update about the big content stuff in progress (especially since Amy and Leigh are going gangbusters!). I'm adding author pages for all the [[Silhouette Romance]] authors and will do the by the numbers pages if someone doesn't beat me to it (I have all the content ready to roll when I get that far in my file). After that, I will go back and add the author pages for [[Harlequin Temptation]] authors. For some bizarre reason -- old age, probably -- I did the by the numbers pages, but never did all the work for each author. Quite a few have already been created by others, so I'll be filling in the gaps there. Phew!

On a go-forward basis, I am building a whole slate of author pages for various category lines. This is going alphabetically by author and should take a good long time. However, we'll have a huge database of romance authors with the best biographical information I can find (and yeah, if you know stuff I don't...). After that, I'll need to come up with a game plan for the rest of the bunch, but since I'm still on the "A" list of authors, I'm not rushing there.

To add some color, especially for older authors without much information, I'm also tracking down at least one halfway decent cover image. If anyone needs me to work on something else, just give a shout-out. Since this current workplan is so huge, I don't mind getting sidetracked a bit.

Also, I'm thinking we need to give some love to writing romance -- anyone know anyone who might be a great resource for this?--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 21:30, 24 January 2008 (PST)

:"''give some love to writing romance''"

:What did you have in mind here RW? Good game plan, I somehow missed this when I was here the other day. --[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 17:46, 2 February 2008 (PST)

::Specifically, I referring to building a good, strong writer resource section. I know we have some bits and pieces here and there, but it would be terrific to have an organized section. It's really the one area where we haven't made inroads, content-wise. It's on my long-term mental plan of things to do, but given my current workplan, it's a seriously future deal.--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 21:09, 6 February 2008 (PST)

:::Yes, we could use some more here. Just for future reference, I have tried to keep up lists and links on the [[Resources]] page and in the [[:category:Romance Resources]]. --[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 21:08, 7 February 2008 (PST)

==Publisher's lines, numbered series==
Leigh has been busy cleaning up the pages that contain lists of books in publisher's lines. Proactively, should we have a section in the [[Help:Style Manual|style manual]] that says something like:

'''Publisher Imprints & Lines''' 
When creating a page for a publisher's imprint, for example, [[Intimate Moments]], it is best to include the name of the publisher in the title, [[Silhouette Intimate Moments]]. This makes it clearer that the article is about an imprint or line and not about a book with that title.

What do we think?? --[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 11:49, 31 January 2008 (PST)
: That sounds like a good idea to me. --[[User:Leigh|Leigh]]
::I am in agreement with Leigh (who has been doing amazing work lately!). As noted above, I am doing loads and loads of author pages (which will be added to wiki as I get through the previous things -- there is something about having a queue that makes me excited), and I am using the publisher pages as guidelines when I create my links.

::If Leigh needs to push some mindless content clean-up my way, just say the word. There are days when I need to put the brain on auto-pilot (especially lately...if only I had the time to do so!). ''And'' the husband's assistant is available for projects -- she's super tech savvy and has done a few wiki projects already. Wiki projects are not highest priority (!@@#$ men!), but tell me if there's something that you can't get to.--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 20:58, 31 January 2008 (PST)

{{done}}
--[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 17:52, 2 February 2008 (PST)
::Kay -- I love the little graphics. They make me smile!--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 20:43, 6 February 2008 (PST)

:::Yes, it is so perky! Hope your temporary dislocation is going okay, and you have found some books to read! even if you weren't dislocated we are in a dry spell, I think. --[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 21:08, 7 February 2008 (PST)

==Author Page Help==
Hi, my name is Cheryl A. Cornell. I set up a new page for myself yesterday, 2/9/08 for my first published novel, Treasure Found through The Wild Rose Press. Thought I followed the directions but I'm not showing up on the author list. If anyone has any ideas what I did wrong or how to fix it I'd appreciate any information you can give. I believed I edited the page but wasn't able to create it. Thanks to anyone who can help, Cheryl 10:35AM 2-10-08

*I'm not sure if there was some database funkiness, or if you actually set up your info on your user page by mistake. User pages are different than author pages, because not every wiki user is an author - I've got a user page frex., but I'm just an editor. Anyways, I went ahead and added a page for you in the actual content of the wiki (user page "space" is different) and filled out the sorting/listing stuff for you. Your page can be found at [[Cheryl A. Cornell]], and I filled out what I could of the Standard wiki template. You can edit it as you see fit, and delete the sections that don't apply to you (like pseudonyms). Also, if you click on the link for your book, I've loaded the books page template onto that page. You can click "edit" and fill out the info for your book, specifically. --[[User:Robini|Robini]] 13:37, 10 February 2008 (PST)

==Thanks for Author Help==
Hi Robini,
Thanks for your help getting this straight and posted. I truly appreciate
you giving me your time and knowledge; as you can tell this is beyond what my brain can compute. It's nice to be in a place where people actually help each other. I appreciate the welcome, Cheryl 2/11/08 9:52AM

== HQ Series Numbering Discussion ==
Hi Teresa, I'm pasting your question below first, then trying to answer the question (I'm still out of town ... and down with a nasty cold, so if I'm incoherent, excuse me):
<blockquote>I have resently downloaded the Presents and Romance by the number pages to have a complete list of the titles. The problem i'm having is that there seems to be 2 seperate and distince collections in both. I don't understand how this is possible. Is there someplace else i can find the alternate lists?</blockquote>
What we're using here at the RomanceWiki is the US numbering system. The lines are also released in other countries, so that might account for differences. Or there is (always) the possibility of user error -- especially when it comes to the very early [[Harlequin Romance]] titles as I had to do a lot of digging to find those titles (and, yeah, I've whined to the Harlequin people about this, but I suspect they don't have a database going back to day one either).

If you're finding differences, I'd appreciate it if you brought them to my attention, or, since [[:User:Leigh|Leigh]] has been uber-terrific about adding content to these sections, her. We definitely want to get it right!--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 17:26, 11 March 2008 (PDT)
: It looks like Harlequin released some Romance and Presents titles to subscribers only in the late 80s/90s. The numbering for these books began again at 1 rather than fitting into the numbers of the retail books, creating a second set of Romance and Presents books whose numbers were significantly lower than the regular ones released at the same time, even though there doesn't seem to be much difference in their covers or content. We probably should add pages for these lists too, but I don't know what they should be called. --[[User:Leigh|Leigh]]

::Okay, I do have those subscription listings in my (extremely long) queue! I am adding the word "Subscription" to the end of the imprint name (ie, Harlequin Romance Subscription By The Numbers, etc). Since it's going to be a while before I upload these lists (I have found -- don't call me a slow learn (g) -- that if I do the author listings ''before'' I do the By The Numbers pages, I can correct for many of the "same title, multiple author" scenarios without having to do a lot of rework), if someone wants to start these listings now, just follow the above syntax so things will line up nicely with the categories. If for some reason it's deemed that a better title would work, just let me know and I'll do a search and replace in my text file (it won't be the first, nor the last!).--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 15:22, 13 March 2008 (PDT)
:::I went ahead and started the pages. I'll add the titles ASAP. --[[User:Leigh|Leigh]]

==Vintage Romance Novels - best places to find==
I collect vintage Gothic Romance and Romantic Suspense novels (and have fallen in love with adding them here) but anyway back to the point - I used to be able to pick these up quite easily at books sales, garage sales, and flea markets. But not anymore they are becoming harder and harder to find. The only place I can usually get them at consistently is at Ebay. I have found another site that is fun that does have a lot of vintage novels on it and I am picking up quite a few of the [[Mystique]] books that I don't have there. It is [http://paperbackswap.com Paper Back Swap] - I've found it useful to list my duplicates. So the question is - what other resources do you guys use?? Anyone else know of other websites that you can get vintage paperbacks on at a reasonable price?? --[[User:Devilbuny|Devilbuny]] 05:10, 20 May 2008 (PDT)
:I don't buy as many vintage romances as I used to, though I have a weakness for 1950's era medical romances -- which I pick up at a vintage bookstore when I get out that way (my schedule is too insane to contemplate trying eBay or other sources). I think there used to be a group called Bookstore Junkies (might want to check Yahoogroups) that was a terrific resource for swaps.

:You might want to set up a page for other readers who are looking for great sources for classic books...I'm sure there are lots of great resources out there!--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 20:11, 20 May 2008 (PDT)

==What style for anthologies?==
Hello! I'm a little confused about which style to use for anthologies. I've seen different styles [[A Gift Of Love - Anthology]], [[Taming Him - Anthology]] (and also creating some by myself :( [[A Holiday Of Love]], [[Upon A Midnight Clear - Anthology]]) and before I change them, I would like to know if there's a prefered style? And if so, could someone please include the style into the book template? And should I treat the novellas like book titels by creating a link (and later an own page)? [[User:Sweety1746|Sweety1746]] 05:56, 1 October 2008 (PDT)

: I believe the style is still being debated. As I think about it, my personal preference is to omit the word "Anthology" from the page title. However, it makes sense to add it in those instances where you encounter multiple books with the same title (in keeping with the style guide of adding the author names in these situations). I am open to opinions, of course. I don't create a lot of book entries, so would like to hear from those who focus on that area.

: Novellas are tricky because it's sometimes hard to distinguish them from short stories. I tend to be more traditional style guide in this regard, creating a book page for the entire book and including information about each individual story on that page. On the author pages (and I admit I've changed my mind since the early days of adding content), I go with this approach:
:: <nowiki>* "Tame, Tame, Tame", ''[[Taming Him]]'' - 2008 ([[Publisher]]), with [[other author]], [[other author]] (if other authors are applicable</nowiki>
--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 17:46, 3 October 2008 (PDT)

==Lists by last name and first name==
I need some help with this lists by surname and subname and such. I hope I can correctly explain what I mean. So, first let's see if I got all this lists right: 1. There are lists (i.e. [[Authors - C]]), in which the authors are sorted by their last name (surname), but I have to add an author by hand. I use this if I just can recall the last name of an author.
2. Lists, that sort the authors by first names within all authors with the same initial of the last name (i.e. [http://www.romancewiki.com/Category:Authors_-_C]). Here the author appears automatically when I put the right category on the author's page. This list is useful if I can remember an author's first name, but am not sure about the last name (though I can exclude some possibilities).
So what is the line "DEFAULTSORT:Last name, First name" in the author template good for? If I use it, the author will be sorted by the last name in the 2. list, which makes no sense according to the discription on page "Category:Authors By Subname".
And by the way, what is a "subname"? I coudn't find a translation or definition anywhere.[[User:Sweety1746|Sweety1746]] 07:11, 1 October 2008 (PDT)
: Here is the rule of thumb for these lists:
: # The alphabetical author pages are straight alpha listings, done, as you've noted manually. People search for content in multiple ways. These author listings (which I always use as my starting point when I add a new author page) are a convenience. They should be alphabetical by last name, first name.
: # The category listings relate to question three. Categories are very cool for slicing and dicing content. However...
: # If you do not use the DEFAULTSORT option, then the names do not properly alphabetize on the page. DEFAULTSORT tells the software to use X order when displaying the content within the categories. Default sort Wiki, Romance places the information in the "W" area. Default sort Romance Wiki places it in the "R" area. It's preferable to have authors sort by last and first (it just looks better that way). I also use DEFAULTSORT with books whose titles begin with articles:
:: <nowiki>{{DEFAULTSORT:Spy Who Loved Me, The}}</nowiki>
: So, items two and three work hand-in-hand. Since item one is a manually generated list, it's up to the user to get the information in the right place. Does all this make sense, or have I muddied the waters even more? --[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 17:38, 3 October 2008 (PDT)
::Ok, thanks so far, but I think I'm still trying to figure out the "aim" of this lists created by using DEFAULTSORT. I created a page for Gayle Callen and naturally I added "Category:Authors - C" so she is in the right category. There, without using DEFAULSORT, she is in the "G" area after Gay Cameron (although Callen alphabethically comes before Cameron). And that's how I understand it should be according to the description on the general page (http://www.romancewiki.com/Category:Authors_By_Subname). Quote: "In the Subcategories below the authors are alphabetized by their first names, i.e., an author named Amy Andrews will appear before Anne Anderson." In this example, both authors are listed in category A because of their last name and in the "A" area because of their first name. And if there's an author named Mary Andrews, she will be also in category A, but in the "M" area, ''won't she''? (question#1)
::But if I use DEFAULTSORT for my author, she is listed by her last name and appears as "Gaylen Callen" (first name - last name) in the "C" area. Only when there is another author with last name "Callen", they will be alphabetized by their first names. So, if I use DEFAULTSORT for all authors whose last names beginn with "C", there will be no subdividing into different areas in category C because all authors will be listed by their last names and so appear in the same area? (question#2) And then the example on the general page isn't correct!
::And, considerin all things, using DEFAULTSORT will automatically create a list without areas and only (no offence) because the style "first name - last name" doesn't look good and maybe isn't good to search through there are these other "handmade" lists "last name - first name"? (question#3)
::Please, let the answers to all three questions always be: "Correct!" :)

::: The description of the subcategories versus articles is incorrect.The [[:Category:Authors By Subname|Authors By Subname]] is automatically generated to pick up both categorized content and articles (which is really a redundant concept if all authors have been, at least, categorized correctly -- not everyone updates the manual list). Using DEFAULTSORT correctly alphabetizes authors by last, first no matter which category they're in, so I prefer it that way (and, if I recall correctly, [[:User:Kay T]] did a lot of work to fix missing DEFAULTS. It looks like it's time to clean up other entries again.
::: Getting closer to answering your question?
:::: Yeah, thanks. Now I understand the concept and will use DEFAULTSORT myself and add it on pages where it's still missing.

==Why do we have two or more of the same category?==

As I was starting to edit a couple of author pages, I noticed two or more of the same category.

Nora Roberts' page has Category: Writers who use Pen Names (which is a redirect to Category: Authors With Pseudonyms). I understand there being a category for Authors With Multiple Identities (if he or she has more than one pseudonym), but why the use of a redirect for the Pen Name? Should both be added to an author's page? Should one be added to the author's pseudonym page?

I'm just wondering what should be used since I'm adding an author's pen name to her page. It's funny how this author's pen name is mentioned on Wikipedia, but not on here. her pen name's books are listed on here, as well as some quotes, but no connection to the author - odd. --[[User:CreativeSoul7981|CreativeSoul7981]] 12:50, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

: Sometimes it's a matter of semantics (I prefer pseudonym, someone else prefers pen name). I tend to clean up this kind of double-tagging when I encounter it because it's confusing (redundant tagging is not bad thing as people do use different terminology, and it's good to offer alternatives when they make sense).

: I agree with RomanceWiki.--[[User:Greenstrawberry1982|Greenstrawberry1982]] 06:09, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

==Another Book With the Same Title==
I started to add a new book to my page. I added the brackets, but when I went to edit/create that page for that book, there was already another book listed with the same title. How can I add my book? Thanks!
[[User:Linda Mooney|Linda Mooney]] 23:43, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

: See [[Help:Same Title Multiple Authors]] for instructions.--[[User:Greenstrawberry1982|Greenstrawberry1982]] 01:04, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

==UK Series Numbers==

Do UK Mills & Boon Books have series numbers anymore? If so, does anyone have a site that actually says what they are? The UK Mills & Boon Website does not say.--[[User:Greenstrawberry1982|Greenstrawberry1982]] 14:32, 24 June 2011 (PDT)

==Error Creating Thumbnaill==

I've been uploading some book covers and whilst the picture has downloaded, on the page created for the book it says 'thumbnail error' instead of showing the downloaded image. Not had this problem before, don't know why it's happened or how to fix it. Help!

--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 12:59, 26 February 2013 (PST)I'm not sure why this is happening, but I did notice there were quite a few of these errors when I was cleaning up unused images. It appeared the upload to the site didn't happen properly, but I'll ask the tech dude to check into this to see if there is something weird going on. Can you send me a link to a page that is having this problem?

Here's a link to two of the pages, thanks. http://www.romancewiki.com/Tangle_In_Sunshine
http://www.romancewiki.com/Young_Tracy

Still working on this, but one fix is in place. On Young Tracy, it appears the files aren't uploaded. I can access one of the Tangle in Sunshines. Sorry for being so frustrating on this issue, but there may be multiple issues (first fix seems to address a problem with the webhost). Can you try re-uploading the Young Tracy files? Hoping to see some success!

Talk:Jan bowles

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Romancewiki: Created page with "Hi -- You have created a page with all external links. This doesn't really help with the wiki as you have created no context nor information (much less metadata) for your books. ..."

Hi -- You have created a page with all external links. This doesn't really help with the wiki as you have created no context nor information (much less metadata) for your books. This really makes it hard for your information to show up in searches. --[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 17:46, 3 March 2013 (PST)

Romance Wiki:Community Discussion

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[[category:Help|Community Discussion]]
'''Welcome''' to a new discussion page. This page is used to discuss the general topics that don't fit on an article or user talk page. You can ask questions, discuss policies, contents, operations and technical issues of RomanceWiki. Discussions will be archived once this page gets too long.

{{Talk Page box}}

'''Note:''' The talk page (reached by clicking "discussion" tab at the top of the page) for this '''Community Discussion''' page will be used to discuss things concerning this page itself, e.g., the layout, content.

==What Should We Call This?==
Yay! We have a place to talk about all those things that don't fit anywhere else. But, what should we call this discussion page? On Wikipedia, the page is called the "Village Pump." That does not sound very "romance-y" and we don't want to just copy them. I have suggested elsewhere that we call it the "Tea Room," or "Coffee House." What are your suggestions?--[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 16:02, 19 September 2007 (PDT) ''P.S. While we get the page set up, is it okay to have discussions about this page here. Once we have it going, such discussions should go to the project talk page.''

:Discussion Parlor? --[[User:Robini|Robini]] 19:49, 19 September 2007 (PDT)

::I like Parlor(y) type names, water cooler is good, Tea Room...like that. Or we could go with a Regency theme with Assembly Room(s).--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 09:56, 22 September 2007 (PDT)

:I vote for "Tea Room". --[[User:DawnBurn|DawnBurn]] 14:29, 25 September 2007 (PDT)

==Announcements?==
We could also use this for announcements although that does not seem right. Anyway, there is a new [[Help:Talk Pages]] with a question on its [[Help talk:Talk Pages]]. --[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 16:25, 19 September 2007 (PDT)

==Awards==
I think we need an award for [[User:Leigh]] and [[User:Amy]]. It is a slow day when they are not around adding/fixing hundreds of books! Thanks! --[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 15:00, 29 September 2007 (PDT)
:I second this nomination (though would also note that [[User:Kay T]] and [[User:DawnBurn]] have been equally awesome. I only glanced at the site while on vacation (apparently there's a rule against wiking while on vacation, though I did get a few interesting comments about my RW t-shirt -- wiki means "quick" in Hawaiian!), so it's just awesome to see all the new stuff and, especially, all the content clean-up. I know that Leigh is aware of the offer for a book bag (and Kay's was finally put in the mail!), so Dawn and Amy, if you're needing a bag, let me know.--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 19:48, 29 October 2007 (PDT)
::Um, I'm highly flattered. I do think Leigh & Amy should get awards for most prolific and most page additions. I believe I serve mostly as a gadfly and doing background organizational stuff which appeals to my anal retentative side without requiring new content from me. If you have extra bags, I would be honored to receive one, but I'd prefer to wait until both Leigh & Amy have been contacted because they are super duper awesome. --[[User:DawnBurn|DawnBurn]] 16:05, 30 October 2007 (PDT)
:::Wow, thanks guys :) I have to say I don't add nearly as many pages as Leigh -- I tend to get on something like adding book descriptions to Superromance pages and go and go and go until I find something else to obsess over. What I really need is wiki rehab! :) --[[User:Amy|Amy]] 18:01, 30 October 2007 (PDT)

::::Chocolate for rehab! We need chocolate! We really do appreciate all of your hard work - fixing or adding. I just know that when I first made the comment, I looked at Recent changes and there were no entries from Amy or Leigh yet that day - a slow day indeed! Sort of scary. Felt like I needed to call you to make sure you were okay. ;) And having people understand RomanceWiki well enough to do the behind the scenes stuff is so great! Thanks --[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 16:07, 1 November 2007 (PDT)

==Category: Books by Publisher ==
I have noticed that several publisher categories have been created and used on book pages for that publisher's books. This is not a bad idea, and I created a mega-category: [[:Category:Books By Publisher]]. We could add a publisher category on the book template. What do you all think? --[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 20:20, 29 October 2007 (PDT)
:Looks like we're both up late (okay, heading off to bed after this -- have to return to the Evil Empire tomorrow). I think, way back when, I might have started to categorize books by publisher, but not categories. I quickly realized that the by publisher designation might be useful, but was also unwieldy. Books by imprint -- which is closer, I think, to what you're doing here -- makes more sense. Nobody seeks "Books by Harlequin", but they do seek "Presents" (or Harlequin Presents). Just as with the author designation, it makes sense to categorize books in this way.

:I am guilty of being inconsistent in this regard (having not found my original method of categorizing books by publisher to be particularly effective). I would agitate for imprint over publisher, but publisher if imprint is unknown/not easily discernible. I am strongly in favor of offering the maximum number of options for finding content. Other thoughts?--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 23:46, 29 October 2007 (PDT)

::Yes, I would probably do book imprints since we have started to use those for Harlequin, but for Red Rose it is probably okay to just do the publisher for now. The other publisher category that had been created was for Samhain, but that was one that had been nominated for deletion, and I think you did delete it this weekend. Maybe Dawn or others will have some thoughts on this. I am not wedded to one way or the other. --[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 13:24, 30 October 2007 (PDT)

:::The reason why the Samhain page was up for deletion was because it was a double, IIRC. I'm not against [[:Category:Books By Publisher]] in that the point of RW is to help people find the books they are looking for. However, I do think [[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]]'s notes are potentially troublesome. In that what category do we use for things like Harlequin versus Blaze (Publisher versus Imprint). I think more people do look by imprint,and if each imprint category was a subset of the overarching publisher, that might be good. But we already have inconsistencies in how the imprints are named or referenced on the book pages. I'm realizing I'm not making a preference either way. Umm... yes to having the mega-category being added, and potentially yes to that being added to the template. But realizing that all previously created pages won't have and that we'll likely get duplicates of categories due to spelling/caps/inclusion of publisher and imprint or just imprint/etc. into those categories. --[[User:DawnBurn|DawnBurn]] 16:03, 30 October 2007 (PDT)

::::Darn you Dawn for practicality! Here's my thinking, for what it's worth (about what you're paying...). When I first started, I was a naive babe in the woods. I think -- and someone will surely correct me as it was a rookie error -- I named a page "Romance". It meant either Harlequin or Silhouette Romance (I can't recall), but it was a stupid page name and I'm crossing my fingers that the more organized of us have fixed it.

::::I do believe that people search more by imprint than publisher (though in the case of Harlequin, both are equally popular). If I were to do it all over, I would create a mega-category for each publisher and then a sub-category for each imprint. That would achieve the goal of making sure that information was accessible no matter how people search (and people search in ways you cannot begin to imagine -- if you're ever bored, watch a co-worker or friend or (best) mother search. It's quite stunning and also educational.

::::So I am advocating for a particular hierarchy, but also realizing that this is a huge time suck (and when it comes to the wiki, we all so many of those, right?). But...light, tunnel, all that. If someone has the energy and time to write a set of rules for categorization, I do have a resource who can help. If not, my feeling is we make this a future project while we put guidelines in place for go-forward content. Thoughts, agreements, disagreements, better ideas (you all have way better ideas than moi)...? --[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]], signed for author by [[User:DawnBurn|DawnBurn]] 16:58, 8 November 2007 (PST)

Shock, gasp! You forgot to sign your post, RomanceWiki. My thought was that this could be added to the template and as you said we could add the publisher category going forward, gradually adding to existing books as needed. What other complications are we not thinking of? One is that a category of "Avon" might contain both books, info about the publisher and authors. Does that matter? I also wonder if there is some "easy" way of doing this. At this point, as you see from the mega-category ([[:Category:Books By Publisher]]), there are both imprint categories, publisher categories, and articles with lists of books by publisher. We could also add the numbered series here if we wanted to. hmmm...--[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 13:22, 2 November 2007 (PDT)

:Replying to Kay's post, but the general thread. I have some LIMITED experience with writing code. I might be able to come up with a rule set, if we are talking about a bot. I think this thread speaks to a general "need" to clean up. There is still the [[Romance]] page, and the naming of the imprints (and their associated by the number pages) is um... random at best. But moving all of those pages (nominally annoying) and then fixing all the redirects (way more annoying) could be more easily done by a use of bot, which would then potentially allow at the same a restructuring of the mega-category to allow more searching. So, it might be of benefit to examine if from a complete overhaul instead of just 'going forward.' I'm willing to use what limited code skills I have toward this and I've considered more than once figuring out enough to write a bot that would auto add the Same Title, Multiple Author books to the Books Alpha pages (which, incidentally, I'm not fond of and are incomplete and hard to use, not that I actually have a better suggestion). Umm... short summary:

:Let's talk (here or in group chat) about how it might be best to restructure from the ground up with the use of a bot for any high repetitive tasks in cleanup.--[[User:DawnBurn|DawnBurn]] 16:58, 8 November 2007 (PST)

::Dawn, I think that someone here might have figured out how to use AWB (from Wikipedia) to do some repetitive tasks, and I have wanted to learn but am afraid. :) One of the problems of thinking or talking about a mega-category and the category tree structure is that there is no good way of seeing that structure on the wiki. That even drives me crazy on the [[RomanceWiki:Category Index]] -- hard to show the structure. At one point (many moons ago) I had dumped all the categories into Excel and then made the structure more obvious. How would you suggest we do a restructure? Should we move this to the category index talk page?--[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 13:43, 9 November 2007 (PST)

== Traffic Analysis ==
Before I go back and read what Kay and Dawn are discussing above (lot of words, little coffee), I'll introduce a new idea for those of you who love to waste time on research. When I have time, I like to focus on building up content related to search phrases used to bring (see recent pages for [[Anne Weale]] and [[Sara Seale]] as examples). I've pulled out the approximately [[Top 20 Search Phrases]] that our readers are using (note: this list is edited to toss out things like "romancewiki"). If you're looking for hours of fun, adding content to these pages is the way to go!--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 10:12, 10 November 2007 (PST)

== Discussion Options ==
To make the discussions about structure and content more efficient, I am wondering if we need to create a list, forum, blog (which, yes, is still high on my list -- just waiting for tech guy to add Kay's category page. I am turning into quite the nag on that).--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 10:12, 10 November 2007 (PST)

==Publishers and Books with Same Name==
I've encountered another problem with creating disambiguation pages - books that have the same name as a publisher or imprint. Some examples:
* [[Splendor]] and [[Temptation]] - imprint pages to which another user has added information about a book (sigh)
* [[Genesis]] (publisher) and [[Genesis (CP)]] (book)
Should we create a disambig page listing both the books and imprint (and if so, do the imprint pages need to be moved to "Title - Imprint" -- as we renamed similar anthology pages "Title - Anthology")? The problem with that, of course, is that a ton of links to that imprint will have be changed. Does anyone have a better solution? --[[User:Amy|Amy]] 19:47, 30 November 2007 (PST)

:Funny you should mention this as I encountered this situation this week. In my case, because there were so few links to deal with, I changed the publisher name to the full title. However, since someone (me, I'm ashamed to admit) started off calling Temptation, Temptation, there are far too many links to change (though, I can ask my husband's assistant to do that if we choose to got that route -- she has the, as they say, bandwidth).

:I admit that I like the idea of adding imprints to the disambiguation pages. Sick I know. I am willing to manage the task of dealing with the Temptation and Splendor links (first) if we agree that this is the optimal solution. I'm going to ping Leigh, Kay, and Dawn to weigh in.--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 21:05, 30 November 2007 (PST)

::Sorry, I have not been around lately! I have to say that I like the solution of having the imprint on the disamb page. Of course, thinking about the consequences of this is rather mind-boggling. If we moved '''Temptation''' the imprint to a page called '''Harlequin Temptation''' the the links would automatically redirect. But if we then wanted to make a disamb page called '''Temptation''' we would have to change all the links (I am not sure if that is even doable without a bot, has your "assistant" figured out bots?). I suppose we could call the disamb page '''Temptation (disambiguation)'''?? Don't really have my wiki-hat on right now. In the short term we could just make the book pages with the author's name, a disamb page called '''Temptation (disambiguation)''' and ?? --[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 15:52, 4 December 2007 (PST)

:::Actually, I'm more than halfway through making the page changes (I had some client downtime this week and am taking full advantage of this brief respite!); however, making the change through the database was option two. In fact, I was in the process of writing the rules for this when I realized I was going to be done with the project before I could turn it over. So I'm thinking that when this done (today or tomorrow), I'll contact Amy and she can her piece, I'll do my piece (moving a few authors), and we can add the '''Temptation''' imprint to the disambiguation page. I like that this makes the disambig concept more complete. I like complete.

:::I'm hoping the Genesis project is much smaller, otherwise, I'll go with making the changes on the database side (or, if you will the "bot" solution).--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 11:25, 5 December 2007 (PST)

::::So I haven't been around (just started a new job and didn't see my talk page), but I just wanted to briefly say that I like the idea of having moved the '''Temptation''' to '''Harlequin Temptation'''. And I do think a bot solution could be done (still on my list of things to do is to play with a bot) since it would be a matter of changing all the pages (mostly) that link there. So, in general, I support fuller Imprint Article Titles (Publisher Imprint). --[[User:DawnBurn|DawnBurn]] 11:35, 7 December 2007 (PST)

:::::Kassia, thanks for taking care of the Temptation thing. Fixing [[Splendor]] and [[Genesis]] will much, much shorter since only a couple pages link to them. In fact, I should get [[Splendor]] done tonight. --[[User:Amy|Amy]] 16:37, 10 December 2007 (PST)

::::::Then there's the final one to look at: Desire. It's on my mental radar rather than active radar since the schedule is much tighter this week.--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 19:50, 11 December 2007 (PST)

==Author Page Help==
Hi, this is Lillith Payne. I'm new here and confused!
I set up a basic page and can open it and print it.
I CAN'T OPEN IT FROM THE AUTHOR LIST!
If anyone can give me simple directions to correct this I'd appreciate it.
My thanks, Lillith
:Hi Lillith. Looks like you edited your user page [[User:Lillith Payne]] with your info but didn't create an actual wiki page. I've gone ahead and started one at [[Lillith Payne]] with the info from your user page and added you to the author list so you should be good to go. --[[User:Amy|Amy]] 15:15, 16 January 2008 (PST)

Hi Amy,
Thank you so much for your help. I found the process completely frustrating not being able to find the fix. When I logged on today I knew I must have found a guardian angel. Consider me your random act of kindness for the week. Lillith
:No problem Lillith, glad to help :) --[[User:Amy|Amy]] 14:44, 17 January 2008 (PST)

Hi, My name is Mahalia. I signed up to make a author page for myself but in the url it says User.Mahalia Levey and isn't popping up on google. My mentor has his name to the left in the wiki romance logo. What did I do wrong? Thanks

:Hi Mahalia, You created your author page on your user page. I am not an author, just a romance novel enthusiast so my user page has what I'm updating on this site. The following is a link to your AUTHOR PAGE: [[Mahalia Levey]]. The following is a link to your USER PAGE [[User:Mahalia Levey]]. See the difference in the links? I've moved the information you put on your USER PAGE to your AUTHOR PAGE, so you should be good.--[[User:Greenstrawberry1982|Greenstrawberry1982]] 00:28, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

::Thank you so much Greenstrawberrry1982 How do I add to it when I have more news? Also is there a link for setting up an author page? Others are asking me where to find how to set up an author page. Thank you so much for helping me so quickly. I saw the dif in the links, I just didn't know where to go to fill out more info on the author link.

::: ANSWERS:
::: Question 1: ''How do I add to it when I have more news?''
::: Answer 1: Step 1. Sign in to romancewiki.com.
:::: Step 2: Using the romancewiki search function, search for your name (i.e.''Mahalia Levey''). In the research results, click on the link to your page. You could also go to the author lists, find your name and click on it.
:::: Step 3: At the top of your author page there are tabs labeled: ''page, discussion, edit, history, move, watch''. Click the ''edit'' tab and start adding editing your author page. (FYI, If you don't sign in to romancewiki first the ''edit'' tab will be replaced with a tab labeled ''source.'' this allows you to view the text you previously wrote but not to change it).
:::: Note: At this point it would be good to watch your author page by clicking on the ''watch'' tab at the top of your author page. The watch tab adds your author page to your ''my watchlist.'' Whenever you sign-in in the future, click your ''my watchlist'' link at the upper right-hand corner. If a page you are watching has been changed since you last visited, you will see it on your ''my watchlist.'' You can also have romancewiki email you when someone other than yourself makes any changes to your any pages you are watching (go to your ''my preferences'' link, seen at the upper right-hand corner of the page. to enable this function). After clicking on the watch tab. the tab should change to ''unwatch''. FYI, you can do this for any page you are interested in (i.e. your book pages). If you have already done this, great!

::: Question 2: ''Also is there a link for setting up an author page?''
::: Answer 2: Look to the left-hand column of this website and click on the ''Help'' link, Look for the section ''Editing Romancewiki'' and look in that section for the link to ''Author Pages''. The link gives you step-by-step instructions on how to setup an author page and provides a template.

::: You also might want to set-up the ability for other uses of romancewiki to be able to e-mail you. I would have e-mailed you telling you I had posted an answer for you (go to you ''my preferences'' link to enable this function). Note: I will not know your e-mail address. the function just enables me to send a message to you via romancewiki (romancewiki is actually the one that send my message to you).
:::: Hope my answers helped.--[[User:Greenstrawberry1982|Greenstrawberry1982]] 18:42, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

:::::Thank you so much. yes they did. I am not a big techy person so learning codes or how to do things is the bane of my existence. You've done so much to help and I really appreciate it.

Hi! My name is Annie Alvarez and I seem to have the same problem as Mahalia. I set up an author page, but when I click on it from the Authors list, it says my page hasn't been written, yet. I know I wrote it, I can see it when I log in. What did I do wrong? Thanks.

:Seems like you solved your own problem. Good work!--[[User:Greenstrawberry1982|Greenstrawberry1982]] 18:20, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

== RW Workflow ==
Rather than post this on my personal page (which I'm sure is out there somewhere!), I just thought I'd give a quick update about the big content stuff in progress (especially since Amy and Leigh are going gangbusters!). I'm adding author pages for all the [[Silhouette Romance]] authors and will do the by the numbers pages if someone doesn't beat me to it (I have all the content ready to roll when I get that far in my file). After that, I will go back and add the author pages for [[Harlequin Temptation]] authors. For some bizarre reason -- old age, probably -- I did the by the numbers pages, but never did all the work for each author. Quite a few have already been created by others, so I'll be filling in the gaps there. Phew!

On a go-forward basis, I am building a whole slate of author pages for various category lines. This is going alphabetically by author and should take a good long time. However, we'll have a huge database of romance authors with the best biographical information I can find (and yeah, if you know stuff I don't...). After that, I'll need to come up with a game plan for the rest of the bunch, but since I'm still on the "A" list of authors, I'm not rushing there.

To add some color, especially for older authors without much information, I'm also tracking down at least one halfway decent cover image. If anyone needs me to work on something else, just give a shout-out. Since this current workplan is so huge, I don't mind getting sidetracked a bit.

Also, I'm thinking we need to give some love to writing romance -- anyone know anyone who might be a great resource for this?--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 21:30, 24 January 2008 (PST)

:"''give some love to writing romance''"

:What did you have in mind here RW? Good game plan, I somehow missed this when I was here the other day. --[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 17:46, 2 February 2008 (PST)

::Specifically, I referring to building a good, strong writer resource section. I know we have some bits and pieces here and there, but it would be terrific to have an organized section. It's really the one area where we haven't made inroads, content-wise. It's on my long-term mental plan of things to do, but given my current workplan, it's a seriously future deal.--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 21:09, 6 February 2008 (PST)

:::Yes, we could use some more here. Just for future reference, I have tried to keep up lists and links on the [[Resources]] page and in the [[:category:Romance Resources]]. --[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 21:08, 7 February 2008 (PST)

==Publisher's lines, numbered series==
Leigh has been busy cleaning up the pages that contain lists of books in publisher's lines. Proactively, should we have a section in the [[Help:Style Manual|style manual]] that says something like:

'''Publisher Imprints & Lines''' 
When creating a page for a publisher's imprint, for example, [[Intimate Moments]], it is best to include the name of the publisher in the title, [[Silhouette Intimate Moments]]. This makes it clearer that the article is about an imprint or line and not about a book with that title.

What do we think?? --[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 11:49, 31 January 2008 (PST)
: That sounds like a good idea to me. --[[User:Leigh|Leigh]]
::I am in agreement with Leigh (who has been doing amazing work lately!). As noted above, I am doing loads and loads of author pages (which will be added to wiki as I get through the previous things -- there is something about having a queue that makes me excited), and I am using the publisher pages as guidelines when I create my links.

::If Leigh needs to push some mindless content clean-up my way, just say the word. There are days when I need to put the brain on auto-pilot (especially lately...if only I had the time to do so!). ''And'' the husband's assistant is available for projects -- she's super tech savvy and has done a few wiki projects already. Wiki projects are not highest priority (!@@#$ men!), but tell me if there's something that you can't get to.--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 20:58, 31 January 2008 (PST)

{{done}}
--[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 17:52, 2 February 2008 (PST)
::Kay -- I love the little graphics. They make me smile!--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 20:43, 6 February 2008 (PST)

:::Yes, it is so perky! Hope your temporary dislocation is going okay, and you have found some books to read! even if you weren't dislocated we are in a dry spell, I think. --[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 21:08, 7 February 2008 (PST)

==Author Page Help==
Hi, my name is Cheryl A. Cornell. I set up a new page for myself yesterday, 2/9/08 for my first published novel, Treasure Found through The Wild Rose Press. Thought I followed the directions but I'm not showing up on the author list. If anyone has any ideas what I did wrong or how to fix it I'd appreciate any information you can give. I believed I edited the page but wasn't able to create it. Thanks to anyone who can help, Cheryl 10:35AM 2-10-08

*I'm not sure if there was some database funkiness, or if you actually set up your info on your user page by mistake. User pages are different than author pages, because not every wiki user is an author - I've got a user page frex., but I'm just an editor. Anyways, I went ahead and added a page for you in the actual content of the wiki (user page "space" is different) and filled out the sorting/listing stuff for you. Your page can be found at [[Cheryl A. Cornell]], and I filled out what I could of the Standard wiki template. You can edit it as you see fit, and delete the sections that don't apply to you (like pseudonyms). Also, if you click on the link for your book, I've loaded the books page template onto that page. You can click "edit" and fill out the info for your book, specifically. --[[User:Robini|Robini]] 13:37, 10 February 2008 (PST)

==Thanks for Author Help==
Hi Robini,
Thanks for your help getting this straight and posted. I truly appreciate
you giving me your time and knowledge; as you can tell this is beyond what my brain can compute. It's nice to be in a place where people actually help each other. I appreciate the welcome, Cheryl 2/11/08 9:52AM

== HQ Series Numbering Discussion ==
Hi Teresa, I'm pasting your question below first, then trying to answer the question (I'm still out of town ... and down with a nasty cold, so if I'm incoherent, excuse me):
<blockquote>I have resently downloaded the Presents and Romance by the number pages to have a complete list of the titles. The problem i'm having is that there seems to be 2 seperate and distince collections in both. I don't understand how this is possible. Is there someplace else i can find the alternate lists?</blockquote>
What we're using here at the RomanceWiki is the US numbering system. The lines are also released in other countries, so that might account for differences. Or there is (always) the possibility of user error -- especially when it comes to the very early [[Harlequin Romance]] titles as I had to do a lot of digging to find those titles (and, yeah, I've whined to the Harlequin people about this, but I suspect they don't have a database going back to day one either).

If you're finding differences, I'd appreciate it if you brought them to my attention, or, since [[:User:Leigh|Leigh]] has been uber-terrific about adding content to these sections, her. We definitely want to get it right!--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 17:26, 11 March 2008 (PDT)
: It looks like Harlequin released some Romance and Presents titles to subscribers only in the late 80s/90s. The numbering for these books began again at 1 rather than fitting into the numbers of the retail books, creating a second set of Romance and Presents books whose numbers were significantly lower than the regular ones released at the same time, even though there doesn't seem to be much difference in their covers or content. We probably should add pages for these lists too, but I don't know what they should be called. --[[User:Leigh|Leigh]]

::Okay, I do have those subscription listings in my (extremely long) queue! I am adding the word "Subscription" to the end of the imprint name (ie, Harlequin Romance Subscription By The Numbers, etc). Since it's going to be a while before I upload these lists (I have found -- don't call me a slow learn (g) -- that if I do the author listings ''before'' I do the By The Numbers pages, I can correct for many of the "same title, multiple author" scenarios without having to do a lot of rework), if someone wants to start these listings now, just follow the above syntax so things will line up nicely with the categories. If for some reason it's deemed that a better title would work, just let me know and I'll do a search and replace in my text file (it won't be the first, nor the last!).--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 15:22, 13 March 2008 (PDT)
:::I went ahead and started the pages. I'll add the titles ASAP. --[[User:Leigh|Leigh]]

==Vintage Romance Novels - best places to find==
I collect vintage Gothic Romance and Romantic Suspense novels (and have fallen in love with adding them here) but anyway back to the point - I used to be able to pick these up quite easily at books sales, garage sales, and flea markets. But not anymore they are becoming harder and harder to find. The only place I can usually get them at consistently is at Ebay. I have found another site that is fun that does have a lot of vintage novels on it and I am picking up quite a few of the [[Mystique]] books that I don't have there. It is [http://paperbackswap.com Paper Back Swap] - I've found it useful to list my duplicates. So the question is - what other resources do you guys use?? Anyone else know of other websites that you can get vintage paperbacks on at a reasonable price?? --[[User:Devilbuny|Devilbuny]] 05:10, 20 May 2008 (PDT)
:I don't buy as many vintage romances as I used to, though I have a weakness for 1950's era medical romances -- which I pick up at a vintage bookstore when I get out that way (my schedule is too insane to contemplate trying eBay or other sources). I think there used to be a group called Bookstore Junkies (might want to check Yahoogroups) that was a terrific resource for swaps.

:You might want to set up a page for other readers who are looking for great sources for classic books...I'm sure there are lots of great resources out there!--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 20:11, 20 May 2008 (PDT)

==What style for anthologies?==
Hello! I'm a little confused about which style to use for anthologies. I've seen different styles [[A Gift Of Love - Anthology]], [[Taming Him - Anthology]] (and also creating some by myself :( [[A Holiday Of Love]], [[Upon A Midnight Clear - Anthology]]) and before I change them, I would like to know if there's a prefered style? And if so, could someone please include the style into the book template? And should I treat the novellas like book titels by creating a link (and later an own page)? [[User:Sweety1746|Sweety1746]] 05:56, 1 October 2008 (PDT)

: I believe the style is still being debated. As I think about it, my personal preference is to omit the word "Anthology" from the page title. However, it makes sense to add it in those instances where you encounter multiple books with the same title (in keeping with the style guide of adding the author names in these situations). I am open to opinions, of course. I don't create a lot of book entries, so would like to hear from those who focus on that area.

: Novellas are tricky because it's sometimes hard to distinguish them from short stories. I tend to be more traditional style guide in this regard, creating a book page for the entire book and including information about each individual story on that page. On the author pages (and I admit I've changed my mind since the early days of adding content), I go with this approach:
:: <nowiki>* "Tame, Tame, Tame", ''[[Taming Him]]'' - 2008 ([[Publisher]]), with [[other author]], [[other author]] (if other authors are applicable</nowiki>
--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 17:46, 3 October 2008 (PDT)

==Lists by last name and first name==
I need some help with this lists by surname and subname and such. I hope I can correctly explain what I mean. So, first let's see if I got all this lists right: 1. There are lists (i.e. [[Authors - C]]), in which the authors are sorted by their last name (surname), but I have to add an author by hand. I use this if I just can recall the last name of an author.
2. Lists, that sort the authors by first names within all authors with the same initial of the last name (i.e. [http://www.romancewiki.com/Category:Authors_-_C]). Here the author appears automatically when I put the right category on the author's page. This list is useful if I can remember an author's first name, but am not sure about the last name (though I can exclude some possibilities).
So what is the line "DEFAULTSORT:Last name, First name" in the author template good for? If I use it, the author will be sorted by the last name in the 2. list, which makes no sense according to the discription on page "Category:Authors By Subname".
And by the way, what is a "subname"? I coudn't find a translation or definition anywhere.[[User:Sweety1746|Sweety1746]] 07:11, 1 October 2008 (PDT)
: Here is the rule of thumb for these lists:
: # The alphabetical author pages are straight alpha listings, done, as you've noted manually. People search for content in multiple ways. These author listings (which I always use as my starting point when I add a new author page) are a convenience. They should be alphabetical by last name, first name.
: # The category listings relate to question three. Categories are very cool for slicing and dicing content. However...
: # If you do not use the DEFAULTSORT option, then the names do not properly alphabetize on the page. DEFAULTSORT tells the software to use X order when displaying the content within the categories. Default sort Wiki, Romance places the information in the "W" area. Default sort Romance Wiki places it in the "R" area. It's preferable to have authors sort by last and first (it just looks better that way). I also use DEFAULTSORT with books whose titles begin with articles:
:: <nowiki>{{DEFAULTSORT:Spy Who Loved Me, The}}</nowiki>
: So, items two and three work hand-in-hand. Since item one is a manually generated list, it's up to the user to get the information in the right place. Does all this make sense, or have I muddied the waters even more? --[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 17:38, 3 October 2008 (PDT)
::Ok, thanks so far, but I think I'm still trying to figure out the "aim" of this lists created by using DEFAULTSORT. I created a page for Gayle Callen and naturally I added "Category:Authors - C" so she is in the right category. There, without using DEFAULSORT, she is in the "G" area after Gay Cameron (although Callen alphabethically comes before Cameron). And that's how I understand it should be according to the description on the general page (http://www.romancewiki.com/Category:Authors_By_Subname). Quote: "In the Subcategories below the authors are alphabetized by their first names, i.e., an author named Amy Andrews will appear before Anne Anderson." In this example, both authors are listed in category A because of their last name and in the "A" area because of their first name. And if there's an author named Mary Andrews, she will be also in category A, but in the "M" area, ''won't she''? (question#1)
::But if I use DEFAULTSORT for my author, she is listed by her last name and appears as "Gaylen Callen" (first name - last name) in the "C" area. Only when there is another author with last name "Callen", they will be alphabetized by their first names. So, if I use DEFAULTSORT for all authors whose last names beginn with "C", there will be no subdividing into different areas in category C because all authors will be listed by their last names and so appear in the same area? (question#2) And then the example on the general page isn't correct!
::And, considerin all things, using DEFAULTSORT will automatically create a list without areas and only (no offence) because the style "first name - last name" doesn't look good and maybe isn't good to search through there are these other "handmade" lists "last name - first name"? (question#3)
::Please, let the answers to all three questions always be: "Correct!" :)

::: The description of the subcategories versus articles is incorrect.The [[:Category:Authors By Subname|Authors By Subname]] is automatically generated to pick up both categorized content and articles (which is really a redundant concept if all authors have been, at least, categorized correctly -- not everyone updates the manual list). Using DEFAULTSORT correctly alphabetizes authors by last, first no matter which category they're in, so I prefer it that way (and, if I recall correctly, [[:User:Kay T]] did a lot of work to fix missing DEFAULTS. It looks like it's time to clean up other entries again.
::: Getting closer to answering your question?
:::: Yeah, thanks. Now I understand the concept and will use DEFAULTSORT myself and add it on pages where it's still missing.

==Why do we have two or more of the same category?==

As I was starting to edit a couple of author pages, I noticed two or more of the same category.

Nora Roberts' page has Category: Writers who use Pen Names (which is a redirect to Category: Authors With Pseudonyms). I understand there being a category for Authors With Multiple Identities (if he or she has more than one pseudonym), but why the use of a redirect for the Pen Name? Should both be added to an author's page? Should one be added to the author's pseudonym page?

I'm just wondering what should be used since I'm adding an author's pen name to her page. It's funny how this author's pen name is mentioned on Wikipedia, but not on here. her pen name's books are listed on here, as well as some quotes, but no connection to the author - odd. --[[User:CreativeSoul7981|CreativeSoul7981]] 12:50, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

: Sometimes it's a matter of semantics (I prefer pseudonym, someone else prefers pen name). I tend to clean up this kind of double-tagging when I encounter it because it's confusing (redundant tagging is not bad thing as people do use different terminology, and it's good to offer alternatives when they make sense).

: I agree with RomanceWiki.--[[User:Greenstrawberry1982|Greenstrawberry1982]] 06:09, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

==Another Book With the Same Title==
I started to add a new book to my page. I added the brackets, but when I went to edit/create that page for that book, there was already another book listed with the same title. How can I add my book? Thanks!
[[User:Linda Mooney|Linda Mooney]] 23:43, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

: See [[Help:Same Title Multiple Authors]] for instructions.--[[User:Greenstrawberry1982|Greenstrawberry1982]] 01:04, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

==UK Series Numbers==

Do UK Mills & Boon Books have series numbers anymore? If so, does anyone have a site that actually says what they are? The UK Mills & Boon Website does not say.--[[User:Greenstrawberry1982|Greenstrawberry1982]] 14:32, 24 June 2011 (PDT)

I've been uploading some book covers and whilst the picture has downloaded, on the page created for the book it says 'thumbnail error' instead of showing the downloaded image. Not had this problem before, don't know why it's happened or how to fix it. Help!

--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 12:59, 26 February 2013 (PST)I'm not sure why this is happening, but I did notice there were quite a few of these errors when I was cleaning up unused images. It appeared the upload to the site didn't happen properly, but I'll ask the tech dude to check into this to see if there is something weird going on. Can you send me a link to a page that is having this problem?

Talk:Honor James

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Honor -- I appreciate you adding your information to the wiki, but this is all external links with no information. We are trying very hard to make this site an information resource, and the lack of author biography and detail about the books is a problem. If you look, for example, at how others are building book pages ([http://www.romancewiki.com/Winds_Of_Enchantment example], you can see how creating these pages with useful metadata will help in search and discovery. Likewise, filling in biographical information about the author helps adds context that, again, aids in search and discovery.

Otherwise, this page will end up in what the system categorizes as a "dead-end" page -- no internal linking.

The Blood Bar Chronicles Book 2 - The Protectors

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[[Category:2012 Releases]]
[[Image:The_Blood_Bar_Chronicles_Book_Two_The_Protectors.jpg‎|175px|right|Caption]]

==Novella Description==
*'''Title''':To Stop A War
*'''Author''': Raven McAllan
*'''Publisher''': Breathless Press
*'''Year''': 2012

==Novella Description==
*'''Title''':
*'''Author''': Sasha May
*'''Publisher''': Breathless Press
*'''Year''': 2012

==Novella Description==
*'''Title''':Protecting His Own
*'''Author''': Xandra James
*'''Publisher''': Breathless Press
*'''Year''': 2012

==Novella Description==
*'''Title''':
*'''Author''': Chellie Edwards
*'''Publisher''': Breathless Press
*'''Year''': 2012

The Eclipse of the Blood Mooon

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[[Category:2012 Releases]]
[[Image:The_Eclipse_of_the_Blood_Moon.jpg‎|125px|right|Caption]]

==Book Description==
When the blood moon coincides with Halloween, the forces of darkness unite to wreak their evil spells. Will this All Hallows Eve bring joy or sorrow? Curses abound and destiny calls, as a vampire watches over his human. Devils atone to the moon, and shifters hunt their mate on land protected by a powerful white witch. An angel takes human shape to protect the gypsy girl he loves, and a black widow hunts her prey in human form.

In these five chilling and sexy tales, is love enough to break the cycle? Or is all lost under the orange glow of the menacing sphere in the sky?

==Novella Description==
*'''Title''':Destined Lovers
*'''Author''': Doris O'Connor
*'''Publisher''': Evernight Publishing
*'''Year''': 2012

==Novella Description==
*'''Title''':Atone for the Moon
*'''Author''':Raven McAllan
*'''Publisher''': Evernight Publishing
*'''Year''': 2012

==Novella Description==
*'''Title''':Property Lines
*'''Author''':Cherie Nicholls
*'''Publisher''': Evernight Publishing
*'''Year''': 2012

==Novella Description==
*'''Title''':Gypsy Butterfly
*'''Author''':Michaela Rhua
*'''Publisher''':Evernight Publishing
*'''Year''': 2012

==Novella Description==
*'''Title''': The Black Widow
*'''Author''': Arya Grey
*'''Publisher''': Evernight Publishsing
*'''Year''': 2012

The Illegitimate King

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'''At the Future King’s Mercy'''

Once, she’d scorned him. And illegitimate
secret prince Ferruccio Selvaggio had
sworn he would make her pay. Now,
Princess Clarissa D’Agostino was in his
power. It was time to teach her a lesson.…

The future of the kingdom rested on her.
Clarissa knew she had to do whatever it took
to convince Ferruccio to accept the crown
and save them all. Even if it meant marrying
a man who believed the worst of her. Even
if it meant giving him her heart.

Visit http://www.oliviagates.com to read an excerpt, enter contests and sign up for the newsletter to be entered in a draw to win free books!

[[Image:The_Illegitimate_King_small.jpg|125px]]

Anna Adams

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{{DEFAULTSORT:Adams, Anna}} [[Category: Authors - A]] [[Category:Georgia Authors]] [[Category:Harlequin Superromance Authors]]

Anna lives in Georgia with her jazz guitarist son, Colin, her swims-like-a-fish daughter, Sarah, and her hero of twenty-one years, Steve. She has published 13 novels with the Harlequin [[Superromance]] line.

==On The Web==
[http://annaadamswriter.blogspot.com/ Writing About Writing] - Anna's Official Blog

==Books==
* ''[[Another Woman's Son]]'' - August 2005 ([[Harlequin Superromance By The Numbers|Harlequin Superromance 1294]])
* ''[[The Bride Ran Away|Bride Ran Away, The]]'' - November 2003 ([[Harlequin Superromance By The Numbers|Harlequin Superromance 1168]])
* ''[[Her Daughter's Father]]'' - February 2000 ([[Harlequin Superromance By The Numbers|Harlequin Superromance 896]])
* ''[[Her Little Secret]]'' - January 2005 ([[Harlequin Superromance By The Numbers|Harlequin Superromance 1248]])
* ''[[Maggie's Guardian]]'' - September 2002 ([[Harlequin Superromance By The Numbers|Harlequin Superromance 1082]])
* ''[[The Man From Her Past|Man From Her Past, The]]'' - August 2007 ([[Harlequin Superromance By The Numbers|Harlequin Superromance 1435]])
* ''[[The Marriage Contract - Anna Adams|Marriage Contract, The]]'' - December 2000 ([[Harlequin Superromance By The Numbers|Harlequin Superromance 959]])
* ''[[Marriage In Jeopardy - Anna Adams|Marriage In Jeopardy]]'' - March 2006 ([[Harlequin Superromance By The Numbers|Harlequin Superromance 1336]])
* ''[[The Prodigal Cousin|Prodigal Cousin, The]]'' - March 2004 ([[Harlequin Superromance By The Numbers|Harlequin Superromance 1188]])
* ''[[The Secret Father|Secret Father, The]]'' - September 2003 ([[Harlequin Superromance By The Numbers|Harlequin Superromance 1154]])
* ''[[Temporary Father - Anna Adams|Temporary Father]]'' - March 2007 ([[Harlequin Superromance By The Numbers|Harlequin Superromance 1407]])
* ''[[Unexpected Babies]]'' - July 2001 ([[Harlequin Superromance By The Numbers|Harlequin Superromance 997 ]])
* ''[[Unexpected Marriage]]'' - November 2001 ([[Harlequin Superromance By The Numbers|Harlequin Superromance 1023]])

===Short Stories/Novellas===
*[[Once Upon A Christmas - Superromance|Once Upon A Christmas]], November 2006 ([[Harlequin Superromance By The Numbers|Harlequin Superromance 1380]])
Marriage in Jeopardy, March 2006

Anna Adams

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{{DEFAULTSORT:Adams, Anna}} [[Category: Authors - A]] [[Category:Georgia Authors]] [[Category:Harlequin Superromance Authors]]

Anna lives in Georgia with her jazz guitarist son, Colin, her swims-like-a-fish daughter, Sarah, and her hero of twenty-one years, Steve. She has published 14 novels with the Harlequin [[Superromance]] line.

==On The Web==
[http://annaadamswriter.blogspot.com/ Writing About Writing] - Anna's Official Blog

==Books==
* ''[[Another Woman's Son]]'' - August 2005 ([[Harlequin Superromance By The Numbers|Harlequin Superromance 1294]])
* ''[[The Bride Ran Away|Bride Ran Away, The]]'' - November 2003 ([[Harlequin Superromance By The Numbers|Harlequin Superromance 1168]])
* ''[[Her Daughter's Father]]'' - February 2000 ([[Harlequin Superromance By The Numbers|Harlequin Superromance 896]])
* ''[[Her Little Secret]]'' - January 2005 ([[Harlequin Superromance By The Numbers|Harlequin Superromance 1248]])
* ''[[Maggie's Guardian]]'' - September 2002 ([[Harlequin Superromance By The Numbers|Harlequin Superromance 1082]])
* ''[[The Man From Her Past|Man From Her Past, The]]'' - August 2007 ([[Harlequin Superromance By The Numbers|Harlequin Superromance 1435]])
* ''[[The Marriage Contract - Anna Adams|Marriage Contract, The]]'' - December 2000 ([[Harlequin Superromance By The Numbers|Harlequin Superromance 959]])
* ''[[Marriage In Jeopardy - Anna Adams|Marriage In Jeopardy]]'' - March 2006 ([[Harlequin Superromance By The Numbers|Harlequin Superromance 1336]])
* ''[[Once Upon A Christmas: All The Christmases To Come]]'' - November 2006 ([[Harlequin Superromance By The Numbers|Harlequin Superromance 1380]])
* ''[[The Prodigal Cousin|Prodigal Cousin, The]]'' - March 2004 ([[Harlequin Superromance By The Numbers|Harlequin Superromance 1188]])
* ''[[The Secret Father|Secret Father, The]]'' - September 2003 ([[Harlequin Superromance By The Numbers|Harlequin Superromance 1154]])
* ''[[Temporary Father - Anna Adams|Temporary Father]]'' - March 2007 ([[Harlequin Superromance By The Numbers|Harlequin Superromance 1407]])
* ''[[Unexpected Babies]]'' - July 2001 ([[Harlequin Superromance By The Numbers|Harlequin Superromance 997 ]])
* ''[[Unexpected Marriage]]'' - November 2001 ([[Harlequin Superromance By The Numbers|Harlequin Superromance 1023]])

===Short Stories/Novellas===
*[[Once Upon A Christmas - Superromance|Once Upon A Christmas]], November 2006
Marriage in Jeopardy, March 2006

Authors - A

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Romancewiki:

Alicia Adams

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{{DEFAULTSORT:Adams, Alicia}} [[Category:Authors - A]] [[Category:MacFadden Romance Authors]]
== Biography ==
As an author for [[MacFadden Romance]], Alicia Adams published three novels.

== Books ==
* ''[[Lovewinds]]'' - 1978, ([[MacFadden Romance By The Numbers|MacFadden Romance 28]])
* ''[[Moonlit Sands]]'' - 1978, ([[MacFadden Romance By The Numbers|MacFadden Romance 66]])
* ''[[Sweet Innocent]]'' - 1978 ([[MacFadden Romance By The Numbers|MacFadden Romance 76]])

Authors - A

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Cherry Adair

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{{DEFAULTSORT:Adair, Cherry}} [[Category: Authors - A]] [[Category:Harlequin Temptation Authors]] [[Category:South African Authors]] [[Category:Seattle Authors]]
Cherry Adair is a an award-winning and New York Times best-selling American romantic fiction writer.

[[File:Cherry_Adair.jpg|thumb|Cherry Adair]]
== Biography ==
Cherry Adair completed 17 manuscripts before selling her first book. She is a native of Cape Town, South Africa, but makes her home in the Pacific Northwest. Adair is a member of the [[Greater Seattle RWA]], a chapter of the [[Romance Writers of America]]. She also created the "Cherry Adair Finish The Damn Book Challenge" for the chapter.

Adair's debut novel ''[[The Mercenary - Cherry Adair|The Mercenary]]'', published in 1994, is connected to later books, including titles from her "T-Flac" series. An award-winning and bestselling novelist, her work has also finalled in the [[RITA]] contest. Her novel ''[[Take Me - Cherry Adair|Take Me]]'' has been optioned for an Oxygen Network movie, but has not yet been produced. Her novel ''[[Hide And Seek - Cherry Adair|Hide And Seek]]'' was voted as one of the [[Romance Writers of America| Romance Writers of America’s]] Top Ten Favorite Books for 2001.

As an author for [[Harlequin Temptation]], Cherry Adair published two novels. She published one title with [[Harlequin Blaze]].

Cherry Adair was a [[2008 RITA® Winners|2008 RITA® finalist]] in the [[RITA®: Best Romantic Suspense]] category with her novel ''[[White Heat - Cherry Adair|White Heat]]''.

In 2011, Cherry Adair was named the [[Romance Writer's of America|PRO Mentor of the Year]] by the [[Romance Writers of America]].

== Bibliography ==
=== Books ===
* ''[[Black Magic - Cherry Adair]]'' - 2010 ([[Pocket Star]])
* ''[[Dare Me]]'' - 2005 ([[Signet]])
* ''[[Date with a Devil]]'' - 2004 ([[Harlequin]])
* ''[[Edge Of Danger - Cherry Adair]]'' - 2006 ([[Ballantine]])
* ''[[Edge Of Darkness - Cherry Adair|Edge of Darkness]]'' - 2008 ([[Ballantine]])
* ''[[Edge Of Fear]]'' - 2006 ([[Ballantine]])
* ''[[Hide And Seek - Cherry Adair]]'' - 2001 ([[Ballantine]])
* ''[[Hot Ice]]'' - 2005 ([[Ballantine]])
* ''[[Hush - Cherry Adair]]'' - 2011 ([[Pocket Star]])
* ''[[In Too Deep - Cherry Adair]]'' - 2002 ([[Ballantine]])
* ''[[Kiss And Tell - Cherry Adair |Kiss And Tell]]'' - 2000 ([[Ballantine]])
* ''[[Night Fall]]'' - 2008 ([[Ballantine]])
* ''[[Night Secrets - Cherry Adair |Night Secrets]]'' - 2008 ([[Ballantine]])
* ''[[Night Shadow - Cherry Adair |Night Shadow]]'' - 2008 ([[Ballantine]])
* ''[[On Thin Ice - Cherry Adair |On Thin Ice]]'' - 2004 ([[Ballantine]])
* ''[[Out Of Sight]]'' - 2003 ([[Ivy Books]])
* ''[[Red Hot Santa]]'' - 2005 ([[Pocket Star]])
* ''[[Rescue Me]]'' - 2008 ([[St. Martin's Paperbacks]])
* ''[[Riptide]]'' - 2011 ([[St. Martin's Paperbacks]])
* ''[[Seducing Mr. Right]]'' - June 2001 ([[Temptation By The Numbers|Harlequin Temptation #833]])
* ''[[Take Me - Cherry Adair |Take Me]]'' - August 2002 ([[Harlequin Blaze By The Numbers |Blaze #51]])
* ''[[The Bodyguard]]'' - 2010 ([[St. Martin's Paperbacks]])
* ''[[The Mercenary - Cherry Adair]]'' - May 1994 ([[Temptation By The Numbers|Harlequin Temptation #492]])
* ''[[Undertow]]'' - 2010 ([[St. Martin's Paperbacks]])
* ''[[White Heat - Cherry Adair|White Heat]]'' - 2007 ([[Ballantine]]/[[Ivy]])

== Series/Related Titles ==

=== Men of T-FLAC ===

*# ''[[Edge Of Danger - Cherry Adair]]'' - 2006 ([[Ballantine]])
*# ''[[Edge Of Darkness - Cherry Adair|Edge of Darkness]]'' - 2008 ([[Ballantine]])
*# ''[[Edge Of Fear]]'' - 2006 ([[Ballantine]])
*# ''[[Hide And Seek - Cherry Adair|Hide And Seek]]'' - 2001 ([[Ballantine]])
*# ''[[In Too Deep - Cherry Adair]]'' - 2002 ([[Ballantine]])
*# ''[[Kiss And Tell - Cherry Adair|Kiss And Tell]]'' - 2000 ([[Ballantine]])
*# ''[[Hot Ice]]'' - 2005 ([[Ballantine]])
*# ''[[Night Fall]]'' - 2008 ([[Ballantine]])
*# ''[[Night Secrets - Cherry Adair |Night Secrets]]'' - 2008 ([[Ballantine]])
*# ''[[Night Shadow - Cherry Adair |Night Shadow]]'' - 2008 ([[Ballantine]])
*# ''[[On Thin Ice - Cherry Adair |On Thin Ice]]'' - 2004 ([[Ballantine]])
*# ''[[Out Of Sight]]'' - 2003 ([[Ivy Books]])
*# "Tropical Heat" in ''[[Rescue Me]]'' 2008 ([[St. Martin's Press]])
*# ''[[The Mercenary - Cherry Adair]]'' - May 1994 ([[Temptation By The Numbers|Harlequin Temptation #492]])
*# ''[[White Heat - Cherry Adair|White Heat]]'' - 2007 ([[Ballantine]]/[[Ivy]])

=== The Edge Brothers ===
* ''[[Edge Of Danger]]'' - 2006 ([[Ballantine]])
* ''[[Edge Of Fear]]'' - 2006 ([[Ballantine]])
* ''[[Edge Of Darkness - Cherry Adair|Edge of Darkness]]'' - 2008 ([[Ballantine]])

=== Novellas ===
* "Snowball's Chance" in ''[[Red Hot Santa]]'' 2005 ([[Ballantine]])
* "Tropical Heat" in ''[[Rescue Me - St. Martin's Press |Rescue Me]]'' 2008 ([[St. Martin's Press]])
* "Playing For Keeps" in ''[[Dare Me - Signet Eclipse|Dare Me]]'' 2005 ([[Signet]])
* "Dance With The Devil" in ''[[Date With A Devil]]'' 2004 ([[Harlequin]])

== On the Web ==
* [http://www.cherryadair.com Cherry Adair Official Website]
* [http://sensualromance.writerspace.com/cadairinterview.html Interview with Cherry Adair] - at Sensual Romance/Writerspace
* [http://euroreviews.eu.funpic.de/interviews/cherryadair.php Interview with Cherry Adair] - Interview at Euro-Reviews
* [http://www.authorsontheweb.com/features/0402-romance/romance-authors.asp 2004 Romance Author Roundtable] - with Cherry Adair, Mary Balogh, Stephanie Bond, Susan Crandall, Jane Feather, Laura Lee Guhrke, Lisa Jackson, Beverly Jenkins, Nicole Jordan, Lisa Kleypas, Jill Marie Landis, Linda Francis Lee, Judi McCoy, Linda Lael Miller, Susan Elizabeth Phillips, Kimberly Raye, and Karen Rose
* [http://backstagelive.groupee.com/displayvideo/content/54469875415650646 Video Interview with Cherry Adair] - Cherry Adair tells her "rat story", a pivotal moment in her career

Roberta Ackworth

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== Biography ==
As an author for the [[Prestige Books Valentine Romance]] line, Roberta Ackworth published one novel. She is also known as [[Robert Ackworth]].

== Books ==
*''[[Mary Winters, Student Nurse]]'' - 1965, ([[Prestige Books Valentine Romance By The Numbers|Prestige Books Valentine Romance 165]])

Roberta Ackworth

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{{DEFAULTSORT:Ackworth, Roberta}} [[Category:Authors - A]] [[Category:Prestige Books Valentine Romance Authors]]
== Biography ==
As an author for the [[Prestige Books Valentine Romance]] line, Roberta Ackworth published one novel. She is also known as [[Robert Ackworth]].

== Books ==
*''[[Mary Winters, Student Nurse]]'' - 1965, ([[Prestige Books Valentine Romance By The Numbers|Prestige Books Valentine Romance 165]])

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Robert Ackworth

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{{DEFAULTSORT:Ackworth, Robert}} [[Category:Authors - A]] [[Category:Candlelight Romance Authors]] [[Category:Male Romance Authors]]
[[Image:robertackworth_northcountrynurse.jpg|thumb|North Country Nurse]]
== Biography ==
As an author for [[Candlelight Romance]], Robert Ackworth published one novel. He is also known as [[Roberta Ackworth]]. Ackworth is possible the same author as Robert C. Ackworth who wrote ''Dr. Kildare'' novelizations.

== Books ==
* ''[[North Country Nurse]]'' - 1965, ([[Candlelight Romance By The Numbers|Candlelight Romance 32]])

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Linda Acaster

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{{DEFAULTSORT:Acaster, Linda}} [[Category:Authors - A]] [[Category:Harlequin Historical First Series Authors]] [[Category:English Authors]]
== Biography ==
Linda Acaster published one title under the [[Harlequin Historical First Series]] imprint. She published two novels for the [[Mills and Boon Historical Romance|Masquerade Historical Romance]] line. She also works as a writing coach. Acaster makes her home in Yorkshire, England. She is a member of [[The Romantic Novelists' Association]]. She received the Joan Hessayon New Writers' Award in 1986 for her novel ''[[Hostage Of The Heart]]''.

== Books ==
* ''[[Hostage Of The Heart]]''
** ([[Harlequin Historical (First Series) By The Numbers|Harlequin Historical (First Series) 5]])
** June 1986 ([[Mills and Boon Historical Romance By The Numbers|Masquerade Historical Romance 202]])
* ''[[A Wife For Winter Man|Wife For Winter Man, A]]'' - September 1987 ([[Mills and Boon Historical Romance By The Numbers|Masquerade Historical Romance 232]])

== Honors/Awards ==
* Joan Hessayon New Writers' Award 1986 for ''[[Hostage Of The Heart]]

== On the Web ==
* [http://www.linda.acaster.btinternet.co.uk/ Linda Acaster Official Website]

Linda Acaster

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{{DEFAULTSORT:Acaster, Linda}} [[Category:Authors - A]] [[Category:Harlequin Historical First Series Authors]] [[Category:English Authors]]
== Biography ==
Linda Acaster published one title under the [[Harlequin Historical First Series]] imprint. She published two novels for the [[Mills and Boon Historical Romance|Masquerade Historical Romance]] line. She also works as a writing coach. Acaster makes her home in Yorkshire, England. She is a member of the [[Romantic Novelists' Association]]. She received the Joan Hessayon New Writers' Award in 1986 for her novel ''[[Hostage Of The Heart]]''.

== Books ==
* ''[[Hostage Of The Heart]]''
** ([[Harlequin Historical (First Series) By The Numbers|Harlequin Historical (First Series) 5]])
** June 1986 ([[Mills and Boon Historical Romance By The Numbers|Masquerade Historical Romance 202]])
* ''[[A Wife For Winter Man|Wife For Winter Man, A]]'' - September 1987 ([[Mills and Boon Historical Romance By The Numbers|Masquerade Historical Romance 232]])

== Honors/Awards ==
* Joan Hessayon New Writers' Award 1986 for ''[[Hostage Of The Heart]]

== On the Web ==
* [http://www.linda.acaster.btinternet.co.uk/ Linda Acaster Official Website]

Linda Acaster

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{{DEFAULTSORT:Acaster, Linda}} [[Category:Authors - A]] [[Category:Harlequin Historical First Series Authors]] [[Category:English Authors]]
== Biography ==
Linda Acaster published one title under the [[Harlequin Historical First Series]] imprint. She published two novels for the [[Mills and Boon Historical Romance|Masquerade Historical Romance]] line. She also works as a writing coach. Acaster makes her home in Yorkshire, England. She is a member of the [[Romantic Novelists' Association]]. She received the Joan Hessayon New Writers' Award in 1986 for her novel ''[[Hostage Of The Heart]]''.

== Books ==
* ''[[Hostage Of The Heart]]''
** ([[Harlequin Historical (First Series) By The Numbers|Harlequin Historical (First Series) 5]])
** June 1986 ([[Mills and Boon Historical Romance By The Numbers|Masquerade Historical Romance 202]])
* ''[[A Wife For Winter Man|Wife For Winter Man, A]]'' - September 1987 ([[Mills and Boon Historical Romance By The Numbers|Masquerade Historical Romance 232]])

== Honors/Awards ===
* Joan Hessayon New Writers' Award 1986 for ''[[Hostage Of The Heart]]
== On the Web ==
* [http://www.linda.acaster.btinternet.co.uk/ Linda Acaster Official Website]

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Leigh Abraham

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{{DEFAULTSORT:Abraham, Leigh}} [[Category:Authors - A]] [[Category:Precious Gems Authors]]
== Biography ==
As an author for [[Precious Gems]], Leigh Abraham published one novel. This appears to be the only novel published by this author.

== Books ==
* ''[[Picture This]]'' - August 2000 ([[Precious Gems By The Numbers|Precious Gems 304]])

Authors - A

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Rose Marie Abbott

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{{DEFAULTSORT:Abbott, Rose Marie}} [[Category:Authors - A]] [[Category:Candlelight Romance Authors]]
== Biography ==
As an author for [[Candlelight Romance]], Rose Marie Abbott published one novel.

== Books ==
* ''[[Bride Of Vengeance]]'' - June 1981, ([[Candlelight Romance By The Numbers|Candlelight Romance 662]])

Authors - A

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Jane Worth Abbott

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{{DEFAULTSORT:Abbott, Jane Worth}} [[Category:Authors - A]] [[Category:Harlequin Superromance Authors]] [[Category:Pseudonym]]
== Biography ==
Jane Worth Abbott is a pseudonym for author [[Stella Cameron]] writing with Virginia Myers. As Abbott, Cameron published three novels for Harlequin [[Superromance]].

== Books ==
* ''[[Choices - Jane Worth Abbott|Choices]]'' - August 1986 ([[Harlequin Superromance By The Numbers|Harlequin Superromance 223]])
* ''[[Faces Of A Clown]]'' - December 1985 ([[Harlequin Superromance By The Numbers|Harlequin Superromance 192]])
* ''[[Yes Is Forever]]'' - June 1987 ([[Harlequin Superromance By The Numbers|Harlequin Superromance 263]])

Jane Worth Abbott

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{{DEFAULTSORT:Abbott, Jane Worth}} [[Category:Authors - A]] [[Category:Harlequin Superromance Authors]]
== Biography ==
Jane Worth Abbott is a pseudonym for author [[Stella Cameron]] writing with Virginia Myers. As Abbott, Cameron published three novels for Harlequin [[Superromance]].

== Books ==
* ''[[Choices]]'' - August 1986 ([[Harlequin Superromance By The Numbers|Harlequin Superromance 223]])
* ''[[Faces Of A Clown]]'' - December 1985 ([[Harlequin Superromance By The Numbers|Harlequin Superromance 192]])
* ''[[Yes Is Forever]]'' - June 1987 ([[Harlequin Superromance By The Numbers|Harlequin Superromance 263]])

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Laura Abbot

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{{DEFAULTSORT:Abbot, Laura}}
[[Category:Authors - A]]
[[Category:Kansas Authors]]
[[Category:Teacher Turned Author]]
[[Category:Harlequin Superromance Authors]]
==Biography==
'''Laura Abbot''''s very arrival on the planet is a romantic plot device. Her parents, married five years, had been unable to have children. Her dad was working two jobs and under a great deal of stress. A wise doctor suggested that they needed a prolonged vacation away from home where they would feel free to — er — do the deed. Often. Day or night. However, this was during the Depression and romantic getaways were hard to come by. To the rescue came a West Virginia cousin who owned a primitive cabin in the mountain wilds, which he put at their disposal. So they went. And voilà! Laura Abbot arrived nine months later in Kansas City, Kansas.

Laura's writing career, which began later than most, has been absolute icing on the cake! What fun it is to follow a long-held, somewhat secret desire — to write publishable fiction. Remember the scene in Little Women of Jo scribbling away in the attic? She was Laura's role model. And to think it's all come true. Sounds like a storybook ending, right? It is!

She sold her first romance novel to [[Harlequin|Harlequin Enterprises]] in 1995. Harlequin has since published over a dozen of her novels, mainly in the SuperRomance category. Her novel, [[My Name Is Nell]] was nominated for a [[Romantic Times Magazine]] award for Best Harlequin SuperRomance in 2003. Abbot's novels are known for their "full-bodied", realistic characters, although some reviewers have complained about her thin plots.

She has published 13 novels for the [[Superromance]] line.

==Pseudonyms==
* [[Laura Abbot]] - Real name used to sign contemporany novels (1995-Present).

==Bibliography==
===Single Novels===
* ''[[Class Act]]'' - September 1998 ([[Harlequin Superromance By The Numbers|Harlequin Superromance 803]])
* ''[[A Country Practice]]'' - February 2001 ([[Harlequin Superromance By The Numbers|Harlequin Superromance 970]])
* ''[[Homecoming - Laura Abbot|Homecoming]]'' - September 2000 ([[Harlequin Superromance By The Numbers|Harlequin Superromance 937]])
* ''[[Mating For Life]]'' - April 1995 ([[Harlequin Superromance By The Numbers|Harlequin Superromance 639]])
* ''[[My Name Is Nell]]'' - October 2003 ([[Harlequin Superromance By The Numbers|Harlequin Superromance 1162]])
* ''[[Second Honeymoon - Laura Abbot|Second Honeymoon]]'' - September 2005 ([[Harlequin Superromance By The Numbers|Harlequin Superromance 1300]])
* ''[[A Summer Place|Summer Place, A]]'' - December 2002 ([[Harlequin Superromance By The Numbers|Harlequin Superromance 1101]])
* ''[[This Christmas]]'' - December 1996 ([[Harlequin Superromance By The Numbers|Harlequin Superromance 721]])
* ''[[Trial Courtship]]'' - June 1999 ([[Harlequin Superromance By The Numbers|Harlequin Superromance 843]])
* ''[[The Wedding Vow]]'' - January 1999 ([[Harlequin Superromance By The Numbers|Harlequin Superromance 818]])
* ''[[The Wrong Man|Wrong Man, The]]'' - March 2004 ([[Harlequin Superromance By The Numbers|Harlequin Superromance 1191]])
* ''[[Where There's Smoke...]]'' - July 1997 ([[Harlequin Superromance By The Numbers|Harlequin Superromance 747]])
* ''[[You're My Baby]]'' - May 2002 ([[Harlequin Superromance By The Numbers|Harlequin Superromance 1059]])

===Omnibus In Collaboration===
*''Baby in the House / My Name is Nell'' (2004/01) (with [[Pamela Bauer]])
*''Sanctuary'' (2004/01) (with [[Pamela Bauer]], [[Judith Bowen]], [[K.N. Casper]], [[Brenda Novak]] and [[Caron Todd]])
*''Wrong Man / Daddy Quest'' (2004/05) (with [[Lori Handeland]])

==External Links==
* [http://www.eharlequin.com/author.html;jsessionid=EF81251D97F18832F2522B4546F5722A?authorid=651 Harlequin's web-page about Laura Abbot]
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laura_Abbot Wikipedia Page]

Laura Abbot

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{{DEFAULTSORT:Abbot, Laura}}
[[Category:Authors - A]]
[[Category:Kansas Authors]]
[[Category:Teacher Turned Author]]
[[Category:Harlequin Superromance Authors]]
==Biography==
'''Laura Abbot''''s very arrival on the planet is a romantic plot device. Her parents, married five years, had been unable to have children. Her dad was working two jobs and under a great deal of stress. A wise doctor suggested that they needed a prolonged vacation away from home where they would feel free to — er — do the deed. Often. Day or night. However, this was during the Depression and romantic getaways were hard to come by. To the rescue came a West Virginia cousin who owned a primitive cabin in the mountain wilds, which he put at their disposal. So they went. And voilà! Laura Abbot arrived nine months later in Kansas City, Kansas.

Laura's writing career, which began later than most, has been absolute icing on the cake! What fun it is to follow a long-held, somewhat secret desire — to write publishable fiction. Remember the scene in Little Women of Jo scribbling away in the attic? She was Laura's role model. And to think it's all come true. Sounds like a storybook ending, right? It is!

She sold her first romance novel to [[Harlequin|Harlequin Enterprises]] in 1995. Harlequin has since published over a dozen of her novels, mainly in the SuperRomance category. Her novel, [[My Name Is Nell]] was nominated for a [[Romantic Times Magazine]] award for Best Harlequin SuperRomance in 2003. Abbot's novels are known for their "full-bodied", realistic characters, although some reviewers have complained about her thin plots.

She has published 13 novels for the [[Superromance line]].

==Pseudonyms==
* [[Laura Abbot]] - Real name used to sign contemporany novels (1995-Present).

==Bibliography==
===Single Novels===
* ''[[Class Act]]'' - September 1998 ([[Harlequin Superromance By The Numbers|Harlequin Superromance 803]])
* ''[[A Country Practice]]'' - February 2001 ([[Harlequin Superromance By The Numbers|Harlequin Superromance 970]])
* ''[[Homecoming - Laura Abbot|Homecoming]]'' - September 2000 ([[Harlequin Superromance By The Numbers|Harlequin Superromance 937]])
* ''[[Mating For Life]]'' - April 1995 ([[Harlequin Superromance By The Numbers|Harlequin Superromance 639]])
* ''[[My Name Is Nell]]'' - October 2003 ([[Harlequin Superromance By The Numbers|Harlequin Superromance 1162]])
* ''[[Second Honeymoon - Laura Abbot|Second Honeymoon]]'' - September 2005 ([[Harlequin Superromance By The Numbers|Harlequin Superromance 1300]])
* ''[[A Summer Place|Summer Place, A]]'' - December 2002 ([[Harlequin Superromance By The Numbers|Harlequin Superromance 1101]])
* ''[[This Christmas]]'' - December 1996 ([[Harlequin Superromance By The Numbers|Harlequin Superromance 721]])
* ''[[Trial Courtship]]'' - June 1999 ([[Harlequin Superromance By The Numbers|Harlequin Superromance 843]])
* ''[[The Wedding Vow]]'' - January 1999 ([[Harlequin Superromance By The Numbers|Harlequin Superromance 818]])
* ''[[The Wrong Man|Wrong Man, The]]'' - March 2004 ([[Harlequin Superromance By The Numbers|Harlequin Superromance 1191]])
* ''[[Where There's Smoke...]]'' - July 1997 ([[Harlequin Superromance By The Numbers|Harlequin Superromance 747]])
* ''[[You're My Baby]]'' - May 2002 ([[Harlequin Superromance By The Numbers|Harlequin Superromance 1059]])

===Omnibus In Collaboration===
*''Baby in the House / My Name is Nell'' (2004/01) (with [[Pamela Bauer]])
*''Sanctuary'' (2004/01) (with [[Pamela Bauer]], [[Judith Bowen]], [[K.N. Casper]], [[Brenda Novak]] and [[Caron Todd]])
*''Wrong Man / Daddy Quest'' (2004/05) (with [[Lori Handeland]])

==External Links==
* [http://www.eharlequin.com/author.html;jsessionid=EF81251D97F18832F2522B4546F5722A?authorid=651 Harlequin's web-page about Laura Abbot]
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laura_Abbot Wikipedia Page]

Nancy John

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{{DEFAULTSORT:John, Nancy}} [[Category:Authors - J]] [[Category:Silhouette Romance Authors]][[Category:Silhouette Desire Authors]] [[Category:Husband And Wife Writing Team]]
== Biography ==
As an author for [[Silhouette Romance]], Nancy John published eight novels. The husband and wife writing team consisted of John and Nancy Buckingham Sawyer. The couple also wrote as [[Christina Abbey]], [[Nancy Buckingham]], [[Hilary London]], and [[Erica Quest]].

== Books ==
* ''[[Champagne Nights]]'' - October 1984 ([[Silhouette Special Edition #193]])
* ''[[Dream Of Yesterday]]'' - May 1984 ([[Silhouette Special Edition #166]])
* ''[[Lookalike Love]]'' - May 1986 ([[Silhouette Romance By The Numbers|Silhouette Romance #431]])
* ''[[Make-Believe Bride]]'' - December 1982 ([[Silhouette Romance By The Numbers|Silhouette Romance #192]])
* ''[[A Man For Always|Man For Always, A]]'' - November 1981 ([[Silhouette Romance By The Numbers|Silhouette Romance #115]])
* [[The Moongate Wish|''Moongate Wist, The'']] - May 1985 ([[Silhouette Special Edition #238]])
* [[Never Too Late - Nancy John|''Never Too Late'']] - July 1983 ([[Silhouette Special Edition #106]])
* ''[[Night With A Stranger]]'' - February 1984 ([[Silhouette Desire]] [[Desire By The Numbers|#119]])
* ''[[Outback Summer]]'' - June 1981 ([[Silhouette Romance By The Numbers|Silhouette Romance #85]])
* ''[[Rendezvous - Nancy John|Rendezvous]]'' - February 1985 ([[Silhouette Special Edition #219]])
* [[Secret Love - Nancy John|''Secret Love'']] - July 1986 ([[Silhouette Desire]] [[Desire By The Numbers|#292]])
* ''[[So Many Tomorrows]]'' - April 1982 ([[Silhouette Special Edition #17]])
* ''[[The Spanish House|Spanish House, The]]'' - October 1980 ([[Silhouette Romance By The Numbers|Silhouette Romance #34]])
* ''[[Summer Rhapsody]]'' - February 1983 ([[Silhouette Special Edition #75]])
* ''[[To Trust Tomorrow]]'' - January 1981 ([[Silhouette Romance By The Numbers|Silhouette Romance #57]])
* ''[[Tormenting Flame]]'' - July 1980 ([[Silhouette Romance By The Numbers|Silhouette Romance #17]])
* ''[[Web Of Passion]]'' - August 1982 ([[Silhouette Special Edition #38]])
* ''[[Window To Happiness]]'' - December 1983 ([[Silhouette Romance By The Numbers|Silhouette Romance #262]])

Hilary London

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[[Category:Authors - L]] [[Category:Harlequin American Romance Authors]] [[Category:Husband And Wife Writing Team]]
== Biography ==
As an author for [[Harlequin American Romance]], [[Hilary London]] published one title. London is a pseudonym used by authors John Sawyer and Nancy Buckingham Sawyer, who also published as [[Christina Abbey]], [[Nancy John]], and others.

== Books ==
* [[Scent Of Gold|''Scent of Gold'']] - [[Harlequin American Romance By The Numbers|Harlequin American Romance #27]] - October 1983

Christina Abbey

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== Biography ==
As an author for [[Candlelight Romance]], Christina Abbey published two novels. She is also known as [[Nancy Buckingham]], [[Nancy John]], [[Erica Quest]], and [[Hilary London]]. Abbey is the joint pseudonym of authors John Sawyer and Nancy Buckingham Sawyer.

== Books ==
* ''[[Pattern Of Loving]]'' - December 1974 ([[Candlelight Romance By The Numbers|Candlelight Romance 157]])
* ''[[Time For Trusting]]'' - February 1975 ([[Candlelight Romance By The Numbers|Candlelight Romance 162]])

Authors - A

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