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A Gift Of Love - Anthology

2009-10-24T17:00:01Z

Sweety1746: /* Book Description */

{{DEFAULTSORT:Gift Of Love - Anthology, A}}
[[Category:1995 Releases]]
[[Category:Anthology]]
[[Category:Christmas]]
[[Image:Anthology Gift of Love PB USA 1996.jpg|right|150px]]
* '''Author''': [[Judith McNaught]], [[Jude Deveraux]], [[Kimberly Cates]], [[Andrea Kane]], [[Judith O'Brien]]
* '''Publisher''': [[Pocket]]
* '''Year''': November 1996 (ISBN 0-671-53661-3) [[Paperback]]
* '''Amazon Listing''': [http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0671536613/ref=nosim/103-3685024-2000659?n=283155 A Gift Of Love]
 

== Book Description ==
Nothing is more precious than the gift of love. In this dazzling new collection, two leading ladies of romance, ''New York Times'' bestselling authors Judith McNaught and Jude Deveraux, along with rising star Kimberly Cates, Andrea Kane, and Judith O'Brien, present spectacular original love stories to warm your hearts on an cold winter's day.

* "Double Exposure" by [[Judith McNaught]]
This story gets us to a reclusive tycoon's Newport estate, where a determined young woman sets out to unlock the secrets of a man's heart.

* "Just Curious" by [[Jude Deveraux]]
We are transported to the snow-covered hills of Virginia, where a young widow learns during a holiday trip that miracles really do come in the least expected packages.

* "Gabriel's Angel" by [[Kimberly Cates]]

* "Yuletide Treasure" by [[Andrea Kane]]

* "Five Golden Rings" by [[Judith O'Brien]]

Let '''[[A Gift Of Love - Anthology|A Gift Of Love]]''' open the door to worlds of passion and adventure, where love - and miracles - are always in the air!

== Translations ==
Germany
* '''Title''': Verlockende Nächte, zärtliche Träume
* '''Publisher''': Bastei Lübbe
* '''Year''': December 1998 (ISBN 3-404-12904-0)
* '''Amazon Germany Listing''': [http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/3404129040/ref=nosim/103-3685024-2000659?n=283155 Verlockende Nächte, zärtliche Träume]

Jude Deveraux

2009-10-24T16:55:57Z

Sweety1746: /* The Taggerts */

{{DEFAULTSORT:Deveraux, Jude}}
[[category:Authors - D]]
[[Category:1947 births]]
[[category:North Carolina Authors]]
[[category:Prolific Authors]]
[[category:Teacher Turned Author]]
[[Category:Award-Winning Authors]]
[[Category:Pocket Books Authors]]
'''Jude Deveraux''' is the pen-name of '''Jude Gilliam'''. She is an American Romance novel author who is well-known for her [[Historical Romance|historical romance]]. She was a 5th-grade teacher prior to her debut as a writer.

She war was born on September 20, 1947 in Fairdale, Kentucky. Jude has an extensive family in Kentucky, and when young, her family moved to another state, she felt lonely and began to write. The heroine of her stories was always called '''Jude''', and was brave and audacious.

In 1967, young Jude married Mr. White, four years later they divorced. She went to Murray State University and received a degree in Art. Jude also married Claude Montassir. She began writing in 1976, and her first book, [[The Enchanted Land]] was published in 1978 coinciding with the adoption of her son: Sam Alexander Montassir.

After divorcing, she currently lives in North Carolina and also has a home in Italy. Her son Sam died at the age of eight in a motorcycle accident.

Her historical romances often have storylines centered on strong heroines and how they meet the heroes. Deveraux has participated in multiple romance anthologies with collections of shorter stories along with other romance authors. Although she is best known for her medieval romances, Deveraux has begun branching out into later time periods, including post-Revolutionary America and Colorado in the late 1800s. She has written several time-travel romances, and her latest novels have been set in contemporary times. The Forever trilogy also deals with paranormal concepts. Many of her books follow the same family, the Montgomerys, through time and across continents, leading fans to regularly try to keep track of their [http://pegasus.cc.ucf.edu/~tramchan/famTree/famTree.html family tree] in the novels.

== On the Web==
*[http://www.judedeveraux.com/ Jude Deveraux's personal site]
*[http://www.geocities.com/judedevinfo/ Deveraux fansites]
*[http://dtwirler.pure-thoughts.net/deveraux/ Gutsy Love], Deveraux's fanlisting
*[http://pegasus.cc.ucf.edu/~tramchan/famTree/famTree.html Montgomery Family Tree]

== Bibliography ==
=== Books ===
* ''[[Always]]'' (2004) - Forever series #3 (Montgomery)
* ''[[An Angel For Emily|Angel For Emily, An]]'' (1998)
* ''[[The Awakening|Awakening, The]]'' (1988)
* ''[[The Black Lyon|Black Lyon, The]]'' (1980) - Montgomery #1
* ''[[The Blessing|Blessing, The]]'' (1998)
* ''[[The Conquest|Conquest, The]]'' (1991) - Peregrine family series #2
* ''[[Carolina Isle]]'' (2006)
* ''[[Casa Grande]]'' (1982)
* ''[[Counterfeit Lady]]'' (1984) - James River series #1
* ''[[The Duchess - Jude Deveraux|Duchess, The]]'' (1991)- Montgomery #13
* ''[[The Enchanted Land|Enchanted Land, The ]]'' - December 1978 ([[Avon]])
* ''[[Eternity]]'' (1992) - Montgomery #14
* ''[[First Impressions - Jude Deveraux|First Impressions]]'' (2005)
* ''[[Forever And Always]]'' (2003) - Forever series #2 (Montgomery)
* ''[[Forever - Jude Deveraux|Forever]]'' (2002) - Forever series #1 (Montgomery)
* ''[[The Heiress|Heiress, The]]'' (1995)- Montgomery #15
* ''[[High Tide]]'' (1999) - Montgomery #16
* ''[[Highland Velvet]]'' (1982) - Velvet series #2, Montgomery #3
* ''[[Holly]]'' (2003)
* ''[[The Invitation|Invitation, The]]'' - April 1993 ([[Pocket Books]])
* ''[[A Knight In Shining Armor| Knight in Shining Armor, A]]'' (1989)
* ''[[Legend]]'' (1996)
* ''[[Lost Lady - Jude Deveraux|Lost Lady]]'' (1985) - James River series #2
* ''[[The Maiden|Maiden, The]]'' (1988)
* ''[[Mountain Laurel]]'' (1990) Montgomery #12
* ''[[The Mulberry Tree|Mulberry Tree, The]]'' (2002)
* ''[[The Princess|Princess, The]]'' (1987)
* ''[[The Raider|Raider, The]]'' (1987) - Montgomery #7
* ''[[Remembrance - Jude Deveraux|Remembrance]]'' (1994)
* ''[[River Lady]]'' (1985) - James River series #3
* ''[[The Summerhouse|Summerhouse, The]]'' (2001)
* ''[[Sweet Liar]]'' - 1992 ([[Pocket Books]]) [[Hardcover]]
* ''[[Sweetbriar]]'' (1983)
* ''[[The Taming|Taming, The]]'' (1989) - Peregrine family series #1
* ''[[Temptation - Jude Deveraux|Temptation]]'' (2000)
* ''[[The Temptress|Temptress, The]]'' (1986)- Montgomery #6
* ''[[Twin Of Fire]]'' (1985) - Twins series #2
* ''[[Twin Of Ice]]'' (1985) - Twins series #1
* ''[[Velvet Angel]]'' (1983) - Velvet series #4, Montgomery #5
* ''[[The Velvet Promise| Velvet Promise, The]]'' (1981) - Velvet series #1,- Montgomery #2
* ''[[Velvet Song]]'' (1983) - Velvet series #3, Montgomery #4
* ''[[Wild Orchids]]'' (2003)
* ''[[Wishes - Jude Deveraux|Wishes]]'' (1989) - Montgomery #11

=== Novellas ===
* "Change Of Heart" in ''[[A Holiday Of Love]]'' - November 1994 [[Pocket]])
* "Invitation, The" in ''[[The Invitation]]'' - April 1993 ([[Pocket]])
* "Just Curious" in ''[[A Gift Of Love - Anthology|A Gift Of Love]]'' - 1995 ([[Pocket]]) and in ''[[Simple Gifts - Anthology|Simple Gifts]]'' - December 2001 ([[Pocket]])
* "Matchmakers" in ''[[The Invitation]]'' - April 1993 ([[Pocket]])
* "Perfect Arrangement, A" in ''[[The Invitation]]'' - April 1993 ([[Pocket]])
* "Teacher, The" in ''[[Upon A Midnight Clear - Anthology|Upon A Midnight Clear]]'' - 1997 ([[Pocket]])
* "Unfinished Business" in ''[[A Season In The Highlands]]'' - December 2000 ([[Pocket]])

== Series/Related Titles ==
===The Montgomery Family===
====In the Beginning====
* ''[[The Black Lyon]]'' (1980) - Montgomery #1
* ''[[The Maiden]]'' (1988)

====Velvet Series====
* ''[[The Velvet Promise]]'' (1981) - Velvet series #1,- Montgomery #2
* ''[[Highland Velvet]]'' (1982) - Velvet series #2, Montgomery #3
* ''[[Velvet Song]]'' (1983) - Velvet series #3, Montgomery #4
* ''[[Velvet Angel]]'' (1983) - Velvet series #4, Montgomery #5

====Middle Ages====
* ''[[The Heiress]]'' (1995)- Montgomery #15

====Revolutionary-War Era====
* ''[[The Raider]]'' (1987) - Montgomery #7

====Nineteenth Century ====
=====America=====
* ''[[Mountain Laurel]]'' (1990) Montgomery #12
* ''[[The Temptress]]'' (1986)- Montgomery #6
* ''[[Eternity]]'' (1992) - Montgomery #14
* ''[[Wishes - Jude Deveraux|Wishes]]'' (1989) - Montgomery #11
=====Britain=====
* ''[[The Duchess - Jude Deveraux|The Duchess]]'' (1991)- Montgomery #13

====Twentieth Century====
* ''[[The Awakening]]'' (1988)
* ''[[The Princess]]'' (1987)
* ''[[A Knight In Shining Armor]]'' (1989)

====Contemporary====
* ''[[High Tide]]'' (1999) - Montgomery #16

==== Forever Series ====
# ''[[Forever - Jude Deveraux|Forever]]'' - 2002 (Adam Montgomery & Darci Monroe)
# ''[[Forever And Always]]'' - 2003
# ''[[Always]]'' - 2004

=== James River Saga ===
# ''[[Sweetbriar]]'' - 1983
# ''[[Counterfeit Lady]]'' - 1984
# ''[[Lost Lady - Jude Deveraux|Lost Lady]]'' - 1985
# ''[[River Lady]]'' - 1985

=== The Taggerts ===
# ''[[Twin Of Ice]]'' - 1985 (Twins series #1)
# ''[[Twin Of Fire]]'' - 1985 (Twins series #2)
# ''[[Sweet Liar]]'' - 1992 (Michael Taggert, 1991)
# ''[[Matchmakers]]'' - 1993 (Kane Taggert, 1991)
# "Just Curious" in ''[[A Gift Of Love - Anthology|A Gift Of Love]]'' - 1995 and ''[[Simple Gifts - Anthology|Simple Gifts]]'' - 2001 (McAllister Taggert)
# ''[[Holly]]'' - 2003 (Nick Taggert)
Note: ''[[Wishes - Jude Deveraux|Wishes]]'' also involves the Taggerts as secondary characters

=== Peregrine Family ===
# ''[[The Taming]]'' - 1989
# ''[[The Conquest]]'' - 1991

== Awards/Honors ==
* [[1987-1988 Career Achievement Award Winners|1987-1988 Career Achievement Award Winner]] - [[Romantic Times Magazine]] - Best All Around Historical Romance
* [[1988-1989 Career Achievement Award Winners|1988-1989 Career Achievement Award Winner]] - [[Romantic Times Magazine]] - Time Travel
* [[2000 Career Achievement Award Winners|2000 Career Achievement Award Winner]] - [[Romantic Times Magazine]] - Innovative Historical Romance

Jude Deveraux

2009-10-24T16:54:29Z

Sweety1746: /* Novellas */

{{DEFAULTSORT:Deveraux, Jude}}
[[category:Authors - D]]
[[Category:1947 births]]
[[category:North Carolina Authors]]
[[category:Prolific Authors]]
[[category:Teacher Turned Author]]
[[Category:Award-Winning Authors]]
[[Category:Pocket Books Authors]]
'''Jude Deveraux''' is the pen-name of '''Jude Gilliam'''. She is an American Romance novel author who is well-known for her [[Historical Romance|historical romance]]. She was a 5th-grade teacher prior to her debut as a writer.

She war was born on September 20, 1947 in Fairdale, Kentucky. Jude has an extensive family in Kentucky, and when young, her family moved to another state, she felt lonely and began to write. The heroine of her stories was always called '''Jude''', and was brave and audacious.

In 1967, young Jude married Mr. White, four years later they divorced. She went to Murray State University and received a degree in Art. Jude also married Claude Montassir. She began writing in 1976, and her first book, [[The Enchanted Land]] was published in 1978 coinciding with the adoption of her son: Sam Alexander Montassir.

After divorcing, she currently lives in North Carolina and also has a home in Italy. Her son Sam died at the age of eight in a motorcycle accident.

Her historical romances often have storylines centered on strong heroines and how they meet the heroes. Deveraux has participated in multiple romance anthologies with collections of shorter stories along with other romance authors. Although she is best known for her medieval romances, Deveraux has begun branching out into later time periods, including post-Revolutionary America and Colorado in the late 1800s. She has written several time-travel romances, and her latest novels have been set in contemporary times. The Forever trilogy also deals with paranormal concepts. Many of her books follow the same family, the Montgomerys, through time and across continents, leading fans to regularly try to keep track of their [http://pegasus.cc.ucf.edu/~tramchan/famTree/famTree.html family tree] in the novels.

== On the Web==
*[http://www.judedeveraux.com/ Jude Deveraux's personal site]
*[http://www.geocities.com/judedevinfo/ Deveraux fansites]
*[http://dtwirler.pure-thoughts.net/deveraux/ Gutsy Love], Deveraux's fanlisting
*[http://pegasus.cc.ucf.edu/~tramchan/famTree/famTree.html Montgomery Family Tree]

== Bibliography ==
=== Books ===
* ''[[Always]]'' (2004) - Forever series #3 (Montgomery)
* ''[[An Angel For Emily|Angel For Emily, An]]'' (1998)
* ''[[The Awakening|Awakening, The]]'' (1988)
* ''[[The Black Lyon|Black Lyon, The]]'' (1980) - Montgomery #1
* ''[[The Blessing|Blessing, The]]'' (1998)
* ''[[The Conquest|Conquest, The]]'' (1991) - Peregrine family series #2
* ''[[Carolina Isle]]'' (2006)
* ''[[Casa Grande]]'' (1982)
* ''[[Counterfeit Lady]]'' (1984) - James River series #1
* ''[[The Duchess - Jude Deveraux|Duchess, The]]'' (1991)- Montgomery #13
* ''[[The Enchanted Land|Enchanted Land, The ]]'' - December 1978 ([[Avon]])
* ''[[Eternity]]'' (1992) - Montgomery #14
* ''[[First Impressions - Jude Deveraux|First Impressions]]'' (2005)
* ''[[Forever And Always]]'' (2003) - Forever series #2 (Montgomery)
* ''[[Forever - Jude Deveraux|Forever]]'' (2002) - Forever series #1 (Montgomery)
* ''[[The Heiress|Heiress, The]]'' (1995)- Montgomery #15
* ''[[High Tide]]'' (1999) - Montgomery #16
* ''[[Highland Velvet]]'' (1982) - Velvet series #2, Montgomery #3
* ''[[Holly]]'' (2003)
* ''[[The Invitation|Invitation, The]]'' - April 1993 ([[Pocket Books]])
* ''[[A Knight In Shining Armor| Knight in Shining Armor, A]]'' (1989)
* ''[[Legend]]'' (1996)
* ''[[Lost Lady - Jude Deveraux|Lost Lady]]'' (1985) - James River series #2
* ''[[The Maiden|Maiden, The]]'' (1988)
* ''[[Mountain Laurel]]'' (1990) Montgomery #12
* ''[[The Mulberry Tree|Mulberry Tree, The]]'' (2002)
* ''[[The Princess|Princess, The]]'' (1987)
* ''[[The Raider|Raider, The]]'' (1987) - Montgomery #7
* ''[[Remembrance - Jude Deveraux|Remembrance]]'' (1994)
* ''[[River Lady]]'' (1985) - James River series #3
* ''[[The Summerhouse|Summerhouse, The]]'' (2001)
* ''[[Sweet Liar]]'' - 1992 ([[Pocket Books]]) [[Hardcover]]
* ''[[Sweetbriar]]'' (1983)
* ''[[The Taming|Taming, The]]'' (1989) - Peregrine family series #1
* ''[[Temptation - Jude Deveraux|Temptation]]'' (2000)
* ''[[The Temptress|Temptress, The]]'' (1986)- Montgomery #6
* ''[[Twin Of Fire]]'' (1985) - Twins series #2
* ''[[Twin Of Ice]]'' (1985) - Twins series #1
* ''[[Velvet Angel]]'' (1983) - Velvet series #4, Montgomery #5
* ''[[The Velvet Promise| Velvet Promise, The]]'' (1981) - Velvet series #1,- Montgomery #2
* ''[[Velvet Song]]'' (1983) - Velvet series #3, Montgomery #4
* ''[[Wild Orchids]]'' (2003)
* ''[[Wishes - Jude Deveraux|Wishes]]'' (1989) - Montgomery #11

=== Novellas ===
* "Change Of Heart" in ''[[A Holiday Of Love]]'' - November 1994 [[Pocket]])
* "Invitation, The" in ''[[The Invitation]]'' - April 1993 ([[Pocket]])
* "Just Curious" in ''[[A Gift Of Love - Anthology|A Gift Of Love]]'' - 1995 ([[Pocket]]) and in ''[[Simple Gifts - Anthology|Simple Gifts]]'' - December 2001 ([[Pocket]])
* "Matchmakers" in ''[[The Invitation]]'' - April 1993 ([[Pocket]])
* "Perfect Arrangement, A" in ''[[The Invitation]]'' - April 1993 ([[Pocket]])
* "Teacher, The" in ''[[Upon A Midnight Clear - Anthology|Upon A Midnight Clear]]'' - 1997 ([[Pocket]])
* "Unfinished Business" in ''[[A Season In The Highlands]]'' - December 2000 ([[Pocket]])

== Series/Related Titles ==
===The Montgomery Family===
====In the Beginning====
* ''[[The Black Lyon]]'' (1980) - Montgomery #1
* ''[[The Maiden]]'' (1988)

====Velvet Series====
* ''[[The Velvet Promise]]'' (1981) - Velvet series #1,- Montgomery #2
* ''[[Highland Velvet]]'' (1982) - Velvet series #2, Montgomery #3
* ''[[Velvet Song]]'' (1983) - Velvet series #3, Montgomery #4
* ''[[Velvet Angel]]'' (1983) - Velvet series #4, Montgomery #5

====Middle Ages====
* ''[[The Heiress]]'' (1995)- Montgomery #15

====Revolutionary-War Era====
* ''[[The Raider]]'' (1987) - Montgomery #7

====Nineteenth Century ====
=====America=====
* ''[[Mountain Laurel]]'' (1990) Montgomery #12
* ''[[The Temptress]]'' (1986)- Montgomery #6
* ''[[Eternity]]'' (1992) - Montgomery #14
* ''[[Wishes - Jude Deveraux|Wishes]]'' (1989) - Montgomery #11
=====Britain=====
* ''[[The Duchess - Jude Deveraux|The Duchess]]'' (1991)- Montgomery #13

====Twentieth Century====
* ''[[The Awakening]]'' (1988)
* ''[[The Princess]]'' (1987)
* ''[[A Knight In Shining Armor]]'' (1989)

====Contemporary====
* ''[[High Tide]]'' (1999) - Montgomery #16

==== Forever Series ====
# ''[[Forever - Jude Deveraux|Forever]]'' - 2002 (Adam Montgomery & Darci Monroe)
# ''[[Forever And Always]]'' - 2003
# ''[[Always]]'' - 2004

=== James River Saga ===
# ''[[Sweetbriar]]'' - 1983
# ''[[Counterfeit Lady]]'' - 1984
# ''[[Lost Lady - Jude Deveraux|Lost Lady]]'' - 1985
# ''[[River Lady]]'' - 1985

=== The Taggerts ===
# ''[[Twin Of Ice]]'' - 1985 (Twins series #1)
# ''[[Twin Of Fire]]'' - 1985 (Twins series #2)
# ''[[Sweet Liar]]'' - 1992 (Michael Taggert, 1991)
# ''[[Matchmakers]]'' - 1993 (Kane Taggert, 1991)
# "Just Curious" in ''[[A Gift Of Love - Anthology|A Gift Of Love]]'' - 1995 (McAllister Taggert)
# ''[[Holly]]'' - 2003 (Nick Taggert)
Note: ''[[Wishes - Jude Deveraux|Wishes]]'' also involves the Taggerts as secondary characters

=== Peregrine Family ===
# ''[[The Taming]]'' - 1989
# ''[[The Conquest]]'' - 1991

== Awards/Honors ==
* [[1987-1988 Career Achievement Award Winners|1987-1988 Career Achievement Award Winner]] - [[Romantic Times Magazine]] - Best All Around Historical Romance
* [[1988-1989 Career Achievement Award Winners|1988-1989 Career Achievement Award Winner]] - [[Romantic Times Magazine]] - Time Travel
* [[2000 Career Achievement Award Winners|2000 Career Achievement Award Winner]] - [[Romantic Times Magazine]] - Innovative Historical Romance

Jude Deveraux

2009-10-24T16:51:15Z

Sweety1746: /* The Taggerts */

{{DEFAULTSORT:Deveraux, Jude}}
[[category:Authors - D]]
[[Category:1947 births]]
[[category:North Carolina Authors]]
[[category:Prolific Authors]]
[[category:Teacher Turned Author]]
[[Category:Award-Winning Authors]]
[[Category:Pocket Books Authors]]
'''Jude Deveraux''' is the pen-name of '''Jude Gilliam'''. She is an American Romance novel author who is well-known for her [[Historical Romance|historical romance]]. She was a 5th-grade teacher prior to her debut as a writer.

She war was born on September 20, 1947 in Fairdale, Kentucky. Jude has an extensive family in Kentucky, and when young, her family moved to another state, she felt lonely and began to write. The heroine of her stories was always called '''Jude''', and was brave and audacious.

In 1967, young Jude married Mr. White, four years later they divorced. She went to Murray State University and received a degree in Art. Jude also married Claude Montassir. She began writing in 1976, and her first book, [[The Enchanted Land]] was published in 1978 coinciding with the adoption of her son: Sam Alexander Montassir.

After divorcing, she currently lives in North Carolina and also has a home in Italy. Her son Sam died at the age of eight in a motorcycle accident.

Her historical romances often have storylines centered on strong heroines and how they meet the heroes. Deveraux has participated in multiple romance anthologies with collections of shorter stories along with other romance authors. Although she is best known for her medieval romances, Deveraux has begun branching out into later time periods, including post-Revolutionary America and Colorado in the late 1800s. She has written several time-travel romances, and her latest novels have been set in contemporary times. The Forever trilogy also deals with paranormal concepts. Many of her books follow the same family, the Montgomerys, through time and across continents, leading fans to regularly try to keep track of their [http://pegasus.cc.ucf.edu/~tramchan/famTree/famTree.html family tree] in the novels.

== On the Web==
*[http://www.judedeveraux.com/ Jude Deveraux's personal site]
*[http://www.geocities.com/judedevinfo/ Deveraux fansites]
*[http://dtwirler.pure-thoughts.net/deveraux/ Gutsy Love], Deveraux's fanlisting
*[http://pegasus.cc.ucf.edu/~tramchan/famTree/famTree.html Montgomery Family Tree]

== Bibliography ==
=== Books ===
* ''[[Always]]'' (2004) - Forever series #3 (Montgomery)
* ''[[An Angel For Emily|Angel For Emily, An]]'' (1998)
* ''[[The Awakening|Awakening, The]]'' (1988)
* ''[[The Black Lyon|Black Lyon, The]]'' (1980) - Montgomery #1
* ''[[The Blessing|Blessing, The]]'' (1998)
* ''[[The Conquest|Conquest, The]]'' (1991) - Peregrine family series #2
* ''[[Carolina Isle]]'' (2006)
* ''[[Casa Grande]]'' (1982)
* ''[[Counterfeit Lady]]'' (1984) - James River series #1
* ''[[The Duchess - Jude Deveraux|Duchess, The]]'' (1991)- Montgomery #13
* ''[[The Enchanted Land|Enchanted Land, The ]]'' - December 1978 ([[Avon]])
* ''[[Eternity]]'' (1992) - Montgomery #14
* ''[[First Impressions - Jude Deveraux|First Impressions]]'' (2005)
* ''[[Forever And Always]]'' (2003) - Forever series #2 (Montgomery)
* ''[[Forever - Jude Deveraux|Forever]]'' (2002) - Forever series #1 (Montgomery)
* ''[[The Heiress|Heiress, The]]'' (1995)- Montgomery #15
* ''[[High Tide]]'' (1999) - Montgomery #16
* ''[[Highland Velvet]]'' (1982) - Velvet series #2, Montgomery #3
* ''[[Holly]]'' (2003)
* ''[[The Invitation|Invitation, The]]'' - April 1993 ([[Pocket Books]])
* ''[[A Knight In Shining Armor| Knight in Shining Armor, A]]'' (1989)
* ''[[Legend]]'' (1996)
* ''[[Lost Lady - Jude Deveraux|Lost Lady]]'' (1985) - James River series #2
* ''[[The Maiden|Maiden, The]]'' (1988)
* ''[[Mountain Laurel]]'' (1990) Montgomery #12
* ''[[The Mulberry Tree|Mulberry Tree, The]]'' (2002)
* ''[[The Princess|Princess, The]]'' (1987)
* ''[[The Raider|Raider, The]]'' (1987) - Montgomery #7
* ''[[Remembrance - Jude Deveraux|Remembrance]]'' (1994)
* ''[[River Lady]]'' (1985) - James River series #3
* ''[[The Summerhouse|Summerhouse, The]]'' (2001)
* ''[[Sweet Liar]]'' - 1992 ([[Pocket Books]]) [[Hardcover]]
* ''[[Sweetbriar]]'' (1983)
* ''[[The Taming|Taming, The]]'' (1989) - Peregrine family series #1
* ''[[Temptation - Jude Deveraux|Temptation]]'' (2000)
* ''[[The Temptress|Temptress, The]]'' (1986)- Montgomery #6
* ''[[Twin Of Fire]]'' (1985) - Twins series #2
* ''[[Twin Of Ice]]'' (1985) - Twins series #1
* ''[[Velvet Angel]]'' (1983) - Velvet series #4, Montgomery #5
* ''[[The Velvet Promise| Velvet Promise, The]]'' (1981) - Velvet series #1,- Montgomery #2
* ''[[Velvet Song]]'' (1983) - Velvet series #3, Montgomery #4
* ''[[Wild Orchids]]'' (2003)
* ''[[Wishes - Jude Deveraux|Wishes]]'' (1989) - Montgomery #11

=== Novellas ===
* "Change Of Heart" in ''[[A Holiday Of Love]]'' - November 1994 [[Pocket]])
* "Invitation, The" in ''[[The Invitation]]'' - April 1993 ([[Pocket]])
* "[[Just Curious]]" in ''[[A Gift Of Love - Anthology|A Gift Of Love]]'' - 1995 ([[Pocket]]) HC
* "Matchmakers" in ''[[The Invitation]]'' - April 1993 ([[Pocket]])
* "Perfect Arrangement, A" in ''[[The Invitation]]'' - April 1993 ([[Pocket]])
* "Teacher, The" in ''[[Upon A Midnight Clear - Anthology|Upon A Midnight Clear]]'' - 1997 ([[Pocket]])
* "Unfinished Business" in ''[[A Season In The Highlands]]'' - December 2000 ([[Pocket]])

== Series/Related Titles ==
===The Montgomery Family===
====In the Beginning====
* ''[[The Black Lyon]]'' (1980) - Montgomery #1
* ''[[The Maiden]]'' (1988)

====Velvet Series====
* ''[[The Velvet Promise]]'' (1981) - Velvet series #1,- Montgomery #2
* ''[[Highland Velvet]]'' (1982) - Velvet series #2, Montgomery #3
* ''[[Velvet Song]]'' (1983) - Velvet series #3, Montgomery #4
* ''[[Velvet Angel]]'' (1983) - Velvet series #4, Montgomery #5

====Middle Ages====
* ''[[The Heiress]]'' (1995)- Montgomery #15

====Revolutionary-War Era====
* ''[[The Raider]]'' (1987) - Montgomery #7

====Nineteenth Century ====
=====America=====
* ''[[Mountain Laurel]]'' (1990) Montgomery #12
* ''[[The Temptress]]'' (1986)- Montgomery #6
* ''[[Eternity]]'' (1992) - Montgomery #14
* ''[[Wishes - Jude Deveraux|Wishes]]'' (1989) - Montgomery #11
=====Britain=====
* ''[[The Duchess - Jude Deveraux|The Duchess]]'' (1991)- Montgomery #13

====Twentieth Century====
* ''[[The Awakening]]'' (1988)
* ''[[The Princess]]'' (1987)
* ''[[A Knight In Shining Armor]]'' (1989)

====Contemporary====
* ''[[High Tide]]'' (1999) - Montgomery #16

==== Forever Series ====
# ''[[Forever - Jude Deveraux|Forever]]'' - 2002 (Adam Montgomery & Darci Monroe)
# ''[[Forever And Always]]'' - 2003
# ''[[Always]]'' - 2004

=== James River Saga ===
# ''[[Sweetbriar]]'' - 1983
# ''[[Counterfeit Lady]]'' - 1984
# ''[[Lost Lady - Jude Deveraux|Lost Lady]]'' - 1985
# ''[[River Lady]]'' - 1985

=== The Taggerts ===
# ''[[Twin Of Ice]]'' - 1985 (Twins series #1)
# ''[[Twin Of Fire]]'' - 1985 (Twins series #2)
# ''[[Sweet Liar]]'' - 1992 (Michael Taggert, 1991)
# ''[[Matchmakers]]'' - 1993 (Kane Taggert, 1991)
# "Just Curious" in ''[[A Gift Of Love - Anthology|A Gift Of Love]]'' - 1995 (McAllister Taggert)
# ''[[Holly]]'' - 2003 (Nick Taggert)
Note: ''[[Wishes - Jude Deveraux|Wishes]]'' also involves the Taggerts as secondary characters

=== Peregrine Family ===
# ''[[The Taming]]'' - 1989
# ''[[The Conquest]]'' - 1991

== Awards/Honors ==
* [[1987-1988 Career Achievement Award Winners|1987-1988 Career Achievement Award Winner]] - [[Romantic Times Magazine]] - Best All Around Historical Romance
* [[1988-1989 Career Achievement Award Winners|1988-1989 Career Achievement Award Winner]] - [[Romantic Times Magazine]] - Time Travel
* [[2000 Career Achievement Award Winners|2000 Career Achievement Award Winner]] - [[Romantic Times Magazine]] - Innovative Historical Romance

A Holiday Of Love

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[[Category: Anthology]][[Category: 2005 Releases]] [[Category: Christmas]]
* '''Author''': [[Judith McNaught]], [[Jude Deveraux]], [[Jill Barnett]], [[Arnette Lamb]]
* '''Publisher''': [[Pocket]]
* '''Year''': 2005
* '''Setting''': see Book Description
* '''Amazon Listing''' - [http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1416517219/ref=nosim/103-3685024-2000659?n=283155 A Holiday of Love]

==BOOK DESCRIPTION==
"Change of Heart" by [[Jude Deveraux]]

In modern-day Colorado, a clever twelve-year-old plays matchmaker for his bighearted but impractical mother.

"Daniel and the Angel" by [[Jill Barnett]]

In New York City in the late 1800s, a beautiful but clumsy angel turns a lonely man's life around...

"Hark! The Herald" by [[Arnette Lamb]]

In medival Scotland, the intrigues of a Christmas Mass imperil two Highland lovers...

"Miracles" by [[Judith McNaught]]

And in Regency London, a world-weary lord receives an outragous proposal...

Judith McNaught

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{{DEFAULTSORT:McNaught, Judith}} [[category:Authors - M]] [[Category:1944 Births]]
[[Category:Award-Winning Authors]] [[Category:Historical Romance Authors]] [[Category:Contemporary Romance Authors]] [[Category:Romantic Suspense Authors]] [[Category:Pocket Books Authors]]
[[Category:Ballantine Authors]] [[Category:Harlequin Temptation Authors]] [[category:Harlequin Superromance Authors]]
== Biography ==
'''Judith McNaught''' (b. 1944) started her career in 1983 writing [[Category Romance|category romances]] for [[Harlequin]]. Although written much earlier, her first published [[Historical Romance|historical romance]] for [[Pocket Books]], ''[[Whitney, My Love]]'' of 1985, was a major success, but caused some commotion due to the "rape". In an [http://www.likesbooks.com/mcnaught.html interview] she gives some details about the original scene, the alterations prior to the publication, her rewriting of some parts in 2000 and her real intentions. She also writes [[Contemporary|contemporary romances]] and [[Suspense|Romantic Suspense]].

Judith McNaught wrote one novel for the [[Harlequin Temptation]] line.
== Books ==
* ''[[Almost Heaven - Judith McNaught|Almost Heaven]]'' - April 1990 ([[Pocket Books]])
* ''[[Can't Take My Eyes Off Of You]]'' - August 2009 ([[Ballantine]]) [[Hardcover]]
* ''[[Double Standards]]'' - June 1984 ([[Harlequin Temptation By The Numbers|Harlequin Temptation #16]])
* ''[[Every Breath You Take - Judith McNaught|Every Breath You Take]]'' - December 2005 ([[Ballantine]]) [[Hardcover]]
* ''[[A Kingdom Of Dreams|Kingdom Of Dreams, A]]'' - February 1989 ([[Pocket Books]])
* ''[[Night Whispers]]'' - November 1998 ([[Pocket Books]])
* ''[[Once And Always]]'' - January 1987 ([[Pocket Books]])
* ''[[Paradise]]'' - June 1992 ([[Pocket Books]])
* ''[[Perfect]]'' - April 1994 ([[Pocket Books]])
* ''[[Remember When - Judith McNaught|Remember When]]'' - November 1996 ([[Pocket Books]])
* ''[[Someone To Watch Over Me - Judith McNaught|Someone To Watch Over Me]]'' - February 2003 ([[Atria]]) [[Hardcover]]
* ''[[Something Wonderful]]'' - March 1988 ([[Pocket Books]])
* ''[[Tender Triumph - Judith McNaught|Tender Triumph]]'' - October 1983 ([[Harlequin Superromance By The Numbers|Harlequin Superromance #86]])
* ''[[Until You - Judith McNaught|Until You]]'' - June 1994 ([[Pocket Books]]) [[Hardcover]]
* ''[[Whitney, My Love]]'' - January 1985 ([[Pocket Books]])

=== Novellas ===
* "[[Double Exposure - Judith McNaught|Double Exposure]]" in ''[[A Gift Of Love - Anthology|A Gift Of Love]]'' - October 1995 ([[Pocket Books]]) [[Hardcover]]
* "Miracles" in ''[[A Holiday Of Love]]'' - October 1994 ([[Pocket Books]])

== Series/Related Titles ==
=== The Westmorelands ===
# [[Whitney, My Love]], 1985
# [[A Kingdom Of Dreams]], 1989
# [[Until You - Judith McNaught|Until You]], 1994

== Honors ==
* [[1989-1990 Career Achievement Award Winners|1989-1990 Career Achievement Award Winner]] - [[Romantic Times Magazine]] - Best All Around Historical Romance
* [[1996 RRA Awards Winners|1996 RRA Awards Nominee]] - Best All-Time Classic Romance Author
* [[1995 RRA Awards Winners|1995 RRA Awards Winner]] - Best Historical Romance Author

== On the Web ==
* [http://www.judithmcnaught.com/default.htm Judith McNaught's website]
* [http://www.mcnaughtized.com/home.html Fan site]
* [http://www.likesbooks.com/mcnaught.html Interview at All About Romance] -

The Seduction Of An English Lady

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[[Category: 2004 Releases]][[Category: England]]
* '''Author''': [[Cathy Maxwell]]
* '''Publisher''': [[Avon]]
* '''Year''': 2004
* '''Setting''': England
* '''Amazon Listing''': [http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0060092971/ref=nosim/103-3685024-2000659?n=283155 The Seduction of an English Lady]

==Book Description==
To seduce an English lady, a gentleman must always remember to...

...gaze longingly into her eyes while declaring her beauty...

Colonel Colin Mandland has wealth, power...everything but a bride. But although there is no misstress of his newly purchased manor, Maiden Hill, there is certainly a resident maiden: Lady Rosalyn Wellborne, a stubborn beauty who steadfastly refuses to leave the place she has always called home.

...hold her hand just a fraction longer than necessary...

tantalizing Rosalyn proves to be far more difficult than any enemy he's ever met on the battlefield. She attacks by declaring Colin an upstart who is unfit for local society. He shockingly counters by offering for her hand in marriage - and she surprisingly accepts.

... or, when all else fails, conquer her.

Although this genteel lady has vowed never to succumb to unbriddled passion, she quickly learns that theirs will be no marriage in-name-only, but rather a slow, sensuous and alarmingly effective seduction...that turns her world upside down.

The Wedding Wager

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[[Category: 2001 Releases]]
* '''Author''': [[Cathy Maxwell]]
* '''Publisher''': [[Avon]]
* '''Year''': 2001
* '''Setting''': England
* '''Amazon Listing''': [http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0380818329/ref=nosim/103-3685024-2000659?n=283155 The Wedding Wager]

==Book Description==
Headstrong Mary Gates longs to once again make the family stables the finest in England - so she bids for the famous Spender stud. The only way to pay for the beast is to marry, but her only prospect in the village is her equally headstrong neighbor and chief rival, Tye Barlow. Mary's been tempted by his masculine charms in the past, but she's determined not to give in to him now.
So Mary boldly goes to where the husbands are - London. She succeeds in taking the town by storm, but the marital prospects are uninspiring when compared to Tye. He's followed her...and is clearly determined to thwart her plans at every turn. Still, she can't help but recall his protective embrace whenever they waltz across a ballroom, or dream of his tantalizing touch each time they kiss. And soon, Mary realizes she might have to take the greatest gamble of all...

Santa Paws

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[[Category:1997 Releases]]
* '''Author''': [[Victoria Alexander]], [[Nina Coombs]], [[Annie Kimberlin]], [[Miriam Raftery]]
* '''Publisher''': [[Love Spell]]
* '''Year''': 1997
* '''Setting''': Regency England, modern America
* '''Amazon Listing''' - [http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0505522357/ref=nosim/103-3685024-2000659?n=283155 Santa Paws]

==BOOK DESCRIPTION==
Four charming stories about Christmas, love and dogs:

''[[Shakespeare And The Three Kings]]'' by [[Victoria Alexander]]

''[[Athena's Christmas Tail]]'' by [[Nina Coombs]]

''[[Away In A Shelter]]'' by [[Annie Kimberlin]]

''[[Mr. Wright's Christmas Angel]]'' by [[Miriam Raftery]]

Shakespeare And The Three Kings

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[[Category: 1997 Releases]]
* '''Author''': [[Victoria Alexander]]
* '''Publisher''': [[Love Spell]]
* '''Year''': 1997
* '''Setting''': Regency England
* '''Amazon Listing''': [http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0505522357/ref=nosim/103-3685024-2000659?n=283155 Santa Paws]

==Book Description==
After inheriting three unbearable dogs from his great aunt, Oliver Sanhope was relieved to find she'd made arrangements for a trainer. But when D.K. Lawrence appeared at his door, enormous Great Dane in tow, Oliver was in for the Christmas surprise - and love - of his life

Sectrets Of A Proper Lady

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[[Category: 2008 Releases]]
* '''Author''': [[Victoria Alexander]]
* '''Publisher''': [[Avon]]
* '''Year''': 2008
* '''Setting''': Regency England
* '''Amazon Listing''': [http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0060882646/ref=nosim/103-3685024-2000659?n=283155 Secrets of a Proper Lady]

==Book Description==
Lady Cordelia Bannister simply cannot marry a man she has not chosen herself, no matter what her father decrees. So, pretending to be her own companion, she decides to seek out information about her intended by meeting with his secretary - a man who soon beguiles her. But Lady Cordelia doesn't know the truth - the man she can't resist is really her intended, Daniel Sinclair.

Daniel has nearly won the wager he made with three of London's most eligible bachelors. While two of his compatriots have surrendered to the shackles of marriage, he's remained free to woo any woman he chooses. Yet duty forces him to consider Lady Cordelia, so, determined to find a way to escape honor intact, he continues the masquerade he started.

Each find the other completely irresistable, but when they uncover their mutual mistaken identities, Daniel and Cordelia must make the most important choice of all...

== Related Titles ==
This book is part of the "Last Man Standing" series:
# ''[[A Little Bit Wicked]]'' - 2006
# ''[[What A Lady Wants]]'' - 2007
## ''[[Lady Amelia's Secret Lover]]'' - 2007 (e-book)
# ''[[Sectrets Of A Proper Lady]]'' - 2007
# ''[[Seduction Of A Proper Gentleman]]'' - 2008

A Little Bit Wicked

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[[Category: 2006 Releases]]
* '''Author''': [[Victoria Alexander]]
* '''Publisher''': [[Avon]]
* '''Year''': 2006
* '''Setting''': Regency England
* '''Amazon Listing''': [http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/006088262X/ref=nosim/103-3685024-2000659?n=283155 A little bit wicked]

==Book Description==
Who will be the last unmarried man standing?

No man in his right mind would want to get married, but every duke, earl, and viscount knows that a fellow must do his duty in the end. So four of London's most desirable gentlemen make a wager—the prize going to the one who remains unwed the longest.

Gideon Pearsall, Viscount Warton, thinks he has a fair shot at winning. After all, he's managed to enjoy the favors of many a lady while resisting the parson's noose. Even when he's stopped dead in his tracks by the most scandalous woman in all of London—Judith, Lady Chester—he vows to have her bedded but never wedded.

Beautiful, and more than a little bit naughty, Judith has always kept herself within the bounds of respectability, even while playing by her own rules. And the experience has taught her to avoid marriage. She has no desire to resist Warton's hot kisses, and his tempting touch is impossible to ignore.

But soon both Judith and Gideon can't help but wonder . . . is it possible to be a little bit wicked and still follow your heart?

== Related Titles ==
This book is part of the "Last Man Standing" series:
# ''[[A Little Bit Wicked]]'' - 2006
# ''[[What A Lady Wants]]'' - 2007
## ''[[Lady Amelia's Secret Lover]]'' - 2007 (e-book)
# ''[[Sectrets Of A Proper Lady]]'' - 2007
# ''[[Seduction Of A Proper Gentleman]]'' - 2008

Victoria Alexander

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{{DEFAULTSORT:Alexander, Victoria}}
[[Category:Authors - A]]
[[Category:Award-Winning Authors]]
== On the Web ==
* [http://www.eclectics.com/victoria/ Victoria Alexander]

== Books ==
* ''[[Believe]]'' - July 1998 ([[Love Spell]])
* ''[[The Emperor's New Clothes|Emperor's New Clothes, The]]'' - September 2004 ([[Love Spell]])
* ''[[Her Highness, My Wife]]'' - July 2002 ([[Avon]])
* ''[[The Husband List|Husband List, The]]'' - August 2000 ([[Avon]])
* ''[[Lady Amelia's Secret Lover]]'' - September 2007, e-book
* ''[[The Lady In Question|Lady In Question, The]]'' - November 2003 ([[Avon]])
* ''[[Let It Be Love]]'' - October 2005 ([[Avon]])
* ''[[A Little Bit Wicked|Little Bit Wicked, A]]'' - December 2006 ([[Avon]])
* ''[[Love With The Proper Husband]]'' - March 2003 ([[Avon]])
* ''[[The Marriage Lesson|Marriage Lesson, The]]'' - May 2001 ([[Avon]])
* ''[[Paradise Bay]]'' - October 1999 ([[Love Spell]])
* ''[[The Perfect Wife|Perfect Wife, The]]'' - November 1996 ([[Leisure]])
* ''[[Play It Again, Sam - Victoria Alexander|Play It Again, Sam]]'' - February 1998 ([[Love Spell]])
* ''[[The Prince's Bride|Prince's Bride, The]]'' - December 2001 ([[Avon]])
* ''[[The Princess And The Pea|Princess And The Pea]]'' - August 2009 ([[Leisure]])
* ''[[The Pursuit Of Marriage|Pursuit Of Marriage, The]]'' - May 2004 ([[Avon]])
* ''[[Secrets Of A Proper Lady]]'' - September 2007 ([[Avon]])
* ''[[Seduction Of A Proper Gentleman]]'' - August 2008 ([[Avon]])
* ''[[The Virgin's Secret|Virgin Secret's, The]]'' - April 2009 ([[Avon]])
* ''[[A Visit From Sir Nicholas|Visit From Sir Nicholas]]'' - November 2004 ([[Avon]])
* ''[[The Weddings Bargain|Wedding Bargain, A]]'' - December 1999 ([[Avon]])
* ''[[What A Lady Wants]]'' - January 2007 ([[Avon]])
* ''[[When We Meet Again]]'' - May 2005 ([[Avon]])
* ''[[Yesterday And Forever]]'' - October 1995 ([[Love Spell]])

=== Novellas ===
* ''[[The Last Love Letter|Last Love Letter, The]]'' in " [[Secrets Of A Perfect Night]]", December 2000 ([[Avon]])
* ''[[One Magic Moment]]'' in "[[The Cat's Meow]]", October 1998 ([[Love Spell]])
* ''[[Promises To Keep - Victoria Alexander|Promises To Keep]]'' in "[[The Night Before Christmas - Anthology 2004|The Night Before Christmas]]", November 1996 ([[Leisure]]) and in "[[A Magical Christmas Present]]", September 2008 ([[Love Spell]])
* ''[[Shakespeare And The Three Kings]]'' in "[[Santa Paws]]", November 1997 ([[Love Spell]])
* ''[[The Trouble With Charlotte|Trouble With Charlotte, The]]'' in "[[The One That Got Away - Anthology|The One That Got Away]]", October 2004 ([[Avon]])

== Series/Related Titles ==
=== Effington (and friends) series ===
# ''[[The Weddings Bargain]]'' - 1999
# ''[[The Husband List]]'' - 2000
# ''[[The Marriage Lesson]]'' - 2001
# ''[[The Prince's Bride]]'' - 2001
# ''[[Her Highness, My Wife]]'' - 2002
# ''[[Love With The Proper Husband]]'' - 2003
# ''[[The Lady In Question]]'' - 2003
# ''[[The Pursuit Of Marriage]]'' - 2004
# ''[[A Visit From Sir Nicholas]]'' - 2004
# ''[[When We Meet Again]]'' - 2005
# ''[[Let It Be Love]]'' - 2005

=== Last Man Standing ===
# ''[[A Little Bit Wicked]]'' - 2006
# ''[[What A Lady Wants]]'' - 2007
## ''[[Lady Amelia's Secret Lover]]'' - 2007 (e-book)
# ''[[Sectrets Of A Proper Lady]]'' - 2007
# ''[[Seduction Of A Proper Gentleman]]'' - 2008

=== Harrington series ===
# ''[[The Virgin's Secret]]'' - 2009

==Novellas==
''[[The Last Love Letter]]'' in [[Secrets Of A Perfect Night]] - 2000

== Awards/Honors ==
* [[2003 Career Achievement Award Winners|2003 Career Achievement Award Winner]] - [[Romantic Times Magazine]] - Historical Storyteller Of The Year

Second Chance At Love 301 - 400

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[[Second Chance At Love Series|Second Chance At Love]] titles published from November 1985 through April 1987. Other titles can be accessed via the [[Second Chance At Love By The Numbers]] page.

* [[Second Chance At Love By The Numbers|# 301]] - [[Man Of Her Dreams - Katherine Granger|Man Of Her Dreams]] - [[Katherine Granger]], November 1985
* [[Second Chance At Love By The Numbers|# 302]] - [[Unspoken Longings]] - [[Dana Daniels]], November 1985
* [[Second Chance At Love By The Numbers|# 303]] - [[This Shining Hour]] - [[Antonia Tyler]], November 1985
* [[Second Chance At Love By The Numbers|# 304]] - [[The Fire Within - Laine Allen|The Fire Within]] - [[Laine Allen]], December 1985
* [[Second Chance At Love By The Numbers|# 305]] - [[Whispers Of An Autumn Day]] - [[Lee Williams]], December 1985
* [[Second Chance At Love By The Numbers|# 306]] - [[Shady Lady - Jan Mathews|Shady Lady]] - [[Jan Mathews]], December 1985
* [[Second Chance At Love By The Numbers|# 307]] - [[Tender Is The Night]] - [[Helen Carter]], December 1985
* [[Second Chance At Love By The Numbers|# 308]] - [[For Love Of Mike]] - [[Courtney Ryan]], December 1985
* [[Second Chance At Love By The Numbers|# 309]] - [[Two In A Huddle]] - [[Diana Morgan]], December 1985
* [[Second Chance At Love By The Numbers|# 310]] - [[Lovers And Pretenders - Liz Grady|Lovers And Pretenders]] - [[Liz Grady]], January 1986
* [[Second Chance At Love By The Numbers|# 311]] - [[Sweets To The Sweet]] - [[Jeanne Grant]], January 1986
* [[Second Chance At Love By The Numbers|# 312]] - [[Ever Since Eve - Kasey Adams|Ever Since Eve]] - [[Kasey Adams]], January 1986
* [[Second Chance At Love By The Numbers|# 313]] - [[Blithe Spirit]] - [[Mary Haskell]], January 1986
* [[Second Chance At Love By The Numbers|# 314]] - [[Man Around The House]] - [[Joan Darling]], January 1986
* [[Second Chance At Love By The Numbers|# 315]] - [[Driven To Distraction - Jamisan Whitney|Driven To Distraction]] - [[Jamisan Whitney]], January 1986
* [[Second Chance At Love By The Numbers|# 316]] - [[Dark Lightning]] - [[Karen Keast]], February 1986
* [[Second Chance At Love By The Numbers|# 317]] - [[Mr. October]] - [[Carole Buck]], February 1986
* [[Second Chance At Love By The Numbers|# 318]] - [[One Step To Paradise]] - [[Jasmine Craig]], February 1986
* [[Second Chance At Love By The Numbers|# 319]] - [[Tempting Patience]] - [[Christina Dair]], February 1986
* [[Second Chance At Love By The Numbers|# 320]] - [[Almost Like Being In Love]] - [[Betsy Osborne]], February 1986
* [[Second Chance At Love By The Numbers|# 321]] - [[On Cloud Nine]] - [[Jean Kent]], February 1986
* [[Second Chance At Love By The Numbers|# 322]] - [[Belonging To Taylor]] - [[Kay Robbins]], March 1986
* [[Second Chance At Love By The Numbers|# 323]] - [[Anywhere And Always]] - [[Lee Williams]], March 1986
* [[Second Chance At Love By The Numbers|# 324]] - [[Fortune's Choice]] - [[Elissa Curry]], March 1986
* [[Second Chance At Love By The Numbers|# 325]] - [[Lady On The Line]] - [[Cait Logan]], March 1986
* [[Second Chance At Love By The Numbers|# 326]] - [[A Kiss Away]] - [[Sherryl Woods]], March 1986
* [[Second Chance At Love By The Numbers|# 327]] - [[Play It Again, Sam - Petra Diamond|Play It Again, Sam]] - [[Petra Diamond]], March 1986
* [[Second Chance At Love By The Numbers|# 328]] - [[Snowflame]] - [[Christa Merlin]], April 1986
* [[Second Chance At Love By The Numbers|# 329]] - [[Bringing Up Baby]] - [[Diana Morgan]], April 1986
* [[Second Chance At Love By The Numbers|# 330]] - [[Dillon's Promise]] - [[Cinda Richards]], April 1986
* [[Second Chance At Love By The Numbers|# 331]] - [[Be Mine, Valentine]] - [[Hilary Cole]], April 1986
* [[Second Chance At Love By The Numbers|# 332]] - [[Southern Comfort]] - [[Kit Windham]], April 1986
* [[Second Chance At Love By The Numbers|# 333]] - [[No Place For A Lady - Cassie Miles|No Place For A Lady]] - [[Cassie Miles]], April 1986
* [[Second Chance At Love By The Numbers|# 334]] - [[Swann's Song]] - [[Carole Buck]], May 1986
* [[Second Chance At Love By The Numbers|# 335]] - [[Stolen Kisses - Liz Grady|Stolen Kisses]] - [[Liz Grady]], May 1986
* [[Second Chance At Love By The Numbers|# 336]] - [[Golden Girl - Jacqueline Topaz|Golden Girl]] - [[Jacqueline Topaz]], May 1986
* [[Second Chance At Love By The Numbers|# 337]] - [[Smiles Of A Summer Night]] - [[Delaney Devers]], May 1986
* [[Second Chance At Love By The Numbers|# 338]] - [[Destiny's Darling]] - [[Adrienne Edwards]], May 1986
* [[Second Chance At Love By The Numbers|# 339]] - [[Wild And Wonderful]] - [[Lee Williams]], May 1986
* [[Second Chance At Love By The Numbers|# 340]] - [[No More Mr. Nice Guy]] - [[Jeanne Grant]], June 1986
* [[Second Chance At Love By The Numbers|# 341]] - [[A Place In The Sun]] - [[Katherine Granger]], June 1986
* [[Second Chance At Love By The Numbers|# 342]] - [[A Prince Among Men]] - [[Sherryl Woods]], June 1986
* [[Second Chance At Love By The Numbers|# 343]] - [[Naughty And Nice]] - [[Jan Mathews]], June 1986
* [[Second Chance At Love By The Numbers|# 344]] - [[All The Right Moves - Linda Raye|All The Right Moves]] - [[Linda Raye]], June 1986
* [[Second Chance At Love By The Numbers|# 345]] - [[Blue Skies, Golden Dreams]] - [[Kelly Adams]], June 1986
* [[Second Chance At Love By The Numbers|# 346]] - [[Tangling With Webb]] - [[Laine Allen]], July 1986
* [[Second Chance At Love By The Numbers|# 347]] - [[Frenchman's Kiss]] - [[Kerry Price]], July 1986
* [[Second Chance At Love By The Numbers|# 348]] - [[Kid At Heart]] - [[Aimee Duvall]], July 1986
* [[Second Chance At Love By The Numbers|# 349]] - [[My Wild Irish Rogue]] - [[Helen Carter]], July 1986
* [[Second Chance At Love By The Numbers|# 350]] - [[Happily Ever After]] - [[Carole Buck]], July 1986
* [[Second Chance At Love By The Numbers|# 351]] - [[Tender Treason]] - [[Karen Keast]], July 1986
* [[Second Chance At Love By The Numbers|# 352]] - [[Best Of Strangers]] - [[Courtney Ryan]], August 1986
* [[Second Chance At Love By The Numbers|# 353]] - [[Whispers From The Past]] - [[Mary Haskell]], August 1986
* [[Second Chance At Love By The Numbers|# 354]] - [[Pocketful Of Miracles]] - [[Diana Morgan]], August 1986
* [[Second Chance At Love By The Numbers|# 355]] - [[Reckless Glances, Stolen Chances]] - [[Lee Williams]], August 1986
* [[Second Chance At Love By The Numbers|# 356]] - [[By Love Betrayed - Ada John|By Love Betrayed]] - [[Ada John]], August 1986
* [[Second Chance At Love By The Numbers|# 357]] - [[Long Road Home]] - [[Jean Faure]], August 1986
* [[Second Chance At Love By The Numbers|# 358]] - [[Where Enchantment Lies]] - [[Beth Brookes]], September 1986
* [[Second Chance At Love By The Numbers|# 359]] - [[Cody's Honor]] - [[Carole Buck]], September 1986
* [[Second Chance At Love By The Numbers|# 360]] - [[Rebel Heart - Molly Thomas|Rebel Heart]] - [[Molly Thomas]], September 1986
* [[Second Chance At Love By The Numbers|# 361]] - [[Dark Splendor]] - [[Liz Grady]], September 1986
* [[Second Chance At Love By The Numbers|# 362]] - [[Forever Kate]] - [[Samantha Quinn]], September 1986
* [[Second Chance At Love By The Numbers|# 363]] - [[Fortune's Hunter]] - [[Frances Davies]], September 1986
* [[Second Chance At Love By The Numbers|# 364]] - [[Heaven Can Wait - Dianne Thomas|Heaven Can Wait]] - [[Dianne Thomas]], October 1986
* [[Second Chance At Love By The Numbers|# 365]] - [[Conquer The Night]] - [[Karen Keast]], October 1986
* [[Second Chance At Love By The Numbers|# 366]] - [[Sun-Kissed Hearts]] - [[Kit Windham]], October 1986
* [[Second Chance At Love By The Numbers|# 367]] - [[Sweet Temptation]] - [[Diana Mars]], October 1986
* [[Second Chance At Love By The Numbers|# 368]] - [[Twice In A Lifetime - Pat Dalton|Twice In A Lifetime]] - [[Pat Dalton]], October 1986
* [[Second Chance At Love By The Numbers|# 369]] - [[Creature Comforts]] - [[Adrienne Edwards]], October 1986
* [[Second Chance At Love By The Numbers|# 370]] - [[Rugged Glory]] - [[Cait Logan]], November 1986
* [[Second Chance At Love By The Numbers|# 371]] - [[Hanky-Panky]] - [[Jan Mathews]], November 1986
* [[Second Chance At Love By The Numbers|# 372]] - [[Proud Surrender]] - [[Jackie Leigh]], November 1986
* [[Second Chance At Love By The Numbers|# 373]] - [[Almost Heaven - Lee Williams|Almost Heaven]] - [[Lee Williams]], November 1986
* [[Second Chance At Love By The Numbers|# 374]] - [[Fire And Ice - Carol Katz|Fire And Ice]] - [[Carol Katz]], November 1986
* [[Second Chance At Love By The Numbers|# 375]] - [[All For Love]] - [[Sherryl Woods]], November 1986
* [[Second Chance At Love By The Numbers|# 376]] - [[When Lightning Strikes - Martina Sultan|When Lightning Strikes]] - [[Martina Sultan]], December 1986
* [[Second Chance At Love By The Numbers|# 377]] - [[To Catch A Thief]] - [[Diana Morgan]], December 1986
* [[Second Chance At Love By The Numbers|# 378]] - [[On Her Doorstep]] - [[Kay Robbins]], December 1986
* [[Second Chance At Love By The Numbers|# 379]] - [[Violets Are Blue]] - [[Hilary Cole]], December 1986
* [[Second Chance At Love By The Numbers|# 380]] - [[A Sweet Disorder]] - [[Katherine Granger]], December 1986
* [[Second Chance At Love By The Numbers|# 381]] - [[Morning Glory - Kasey Adams|Morning Glory]] - [[Kasey Adams]], December 1986
* [[Second Chance At Love By The Numbers|# 382]] - [[Fire Under Heaven]] - [[Cinda Richards]], January 1987
* [[Second Chance At Love By The Numbers|# 383]] - [[Lady Incognito]] - [[Courtney Ryan]], January 1987
* [[Second Chance At Love By The Numbers|# 384]] - [[Softer Than Springtime]] - [[Frances West]], January 1987
* [[Second Chance At Love By The Numbers|# 385]] - [[A Hint Of Scandal]] - [[Dana Daniels]], January 1987
* [[Second Chance At Love By The Numbers|# 386]] - [[Cupid's Verdict]] - [[Jackie Leigh]], January 1987
* [[Second Chance At Love By The Numbers|# 387]] - [[Change Of Heart - Helen Carter|Change Of Heart]] - [[Helen Carter]], January 1987
* [[Second Chance At Love By The Numbers|# 388]] - [[Places In The Heart]] - [[Delaney Devers]], February 1987
* [[Second Chance At Love By The Numbers|# 389]] - [[A Dash Of Spice]] - [[Kerry Price]], February 1987
* [[Second Chance At Love By The Numbers|# 390]] - [[Tender Loving Care - Jeanne Grant|Tender Loving Care]] - [[Jeanne Grant]], February 1987
* [[Second Chance At Love By The Numbers|# 391]] - [[Moonshine And Madness]] - [[Kate Gilbert]], February 1987
* [[Second Chance At Love By The Numbers|# 392]] - [[Made For Each Other - Aimee Duvall|Made For Each Other]] - [[Aimee Duvall]], February 1987
* [[Second Chance At Love By The Numbers|# 393]] - [[Country Dreaming]] - [[Samantha Quinn]], February 1987
* [[Second Chance At Love By The Numbers|# 394]] - [[No Holds Barred - Jackie Leigh|No Holds Barred]] - [[Jackie Leigh]], March 1987
* [[Second Chance At Love By The Numbers|# 395]] - [[Devin's Promise]] - [[Kelly Adams]], March 1987
* [[Second Chance At Love By The Numbers|# 396]] - [[For Love Of Christy]] - [[Jasmine Craig]], March 1987
* [[Second Chance At Love By The Numbers|# 397]] - [[Whistling Dixie]] - [[Adrienne Edwards]], March 1987
* [[Second Chance At Love By The Numbers|# 398]] - [[Best Intentions]] - [[Sherryl Woods]], March 1987
* [[Second Chance At Love By The Numbers|# 399]] - [[Night Moves - Jean Kent|Night Moves]] - [[Jean Kent]], March 1987
* [[Second Chance At Love By The Numbers|# 400]] - [[In Name Only - Mary Modean|In Name Only]] - [[Mary Modean]], April 1987

Play It Again, Sam

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[[category:Books - Same Title]]
''Play It Again, Sam'' is the title of books by:

* [[Play It Again, Sam - Petra Diamond|1]] - [[Petra Diamond]], 1986, ([[Berkley]])
* [[Play It Again, Sam - Victoria Alexander|2]] - [[Victoria Alexander]], 1998 ([[Love Spell]])

Play It Again, Sam - Petra Diamond

2009-10-24T13:11:00Z

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[[Category:Category Romance]][[category:1986 Releases]]
* '''Author''': [[Petra Diamond]]
* '''Publisher''': [[Berkley]] [[Second Chance At Love Series|Second Chance At Love]] [[Second Chance At Love By The Numbers|# 327]]
* '''Year''': 1986
* '''Setting''':
* '''Amazon Listing''': [http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0425089495/ref=nosim/103-3685024-2000659?n=283155 Play It Again, Sam]

== Book Description ==
Forget the '80s! Incurably nostalgic Nedda Shaw rhapsodizes over old movies and escapes to a more genteel age by collecting antique dresses. When trendy Hollywood filmmakers invade her sleepy hometown, she's thrown for a loop--especially by Brooklyn-born costume designer Sam Harrison.

From the moment Sam barges into Nedda's cheerfully cluttered shop, he's clearly got designs on her. Dashingly quoting Bogie and Grant, masterfully seizing her in classic clinches, and sexily storming her old-fashioned notions, he has Nedda moaning "Play it again, Sam" before she can distinguish between lasting love and a summer fling ... between a racing pulse and certain heartache ...

Play It Again, Sam

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#REDIRECT [[Play It Again, Sam - Petra Diamond]]

Promises To Keep

2009-10-24T13:02:58Z

Sweety1746:

[[category:Books - Same Title]]
'''Promises To Keep''' is the title of books by:

* [[Promises To Keep - Rose Marie Ferris|1]] - [[Rose Marie Ferris]], 1981 ([[Candlelight Ecstasy Romance]] [[Candlelight Ecstasy Romance By The Numbers|#30]])
* [[Promises To Keep - Vivian Connolly|2]] - [[Vivian Connolly]], 1984 ([[To Have And To Hold Series|To Have And To Hold]] [[To Have And To Hold By The Numbers|# 30]])
* [[Promises To Keep - Maura McGiveny|3]] - [[Maura McGiveny]], 1984 ([[Harlequin Presents By The Numbers|Harlequin Presents #723]])
* [[Promises To Keep - Carolyn Thornton|4]] - [[Carolyn Thornton]], 1984 ([[Silhouette Special Edition]])
* [[Promises To Keep - Nina Beaumont|5]] - [[Nina Beaumont]], 1992 ([[Harlequin Historical By The Numbers|Harlequin Historical #153]])
* [[Promises To Keep - Jane Peart|6]] - [[Jane Peart]], 1998 ([[Love Inspired]])
* [[Promises To Keep - Josie Metcalfe|7]] - [[Josie Metcalfe]], 1998 ([[Mills and Boon Medical Romance By The Numbers|Mills & Boon Medical Romance #823]])

'''Promises To Keep''' is the title of novellas by:

* [[Promises To Keep - Allison Lane|1]] - [[Allison Lane]] in "[[Grand Hotel]]", 2000 ([[Signet]])
* [[Promises To Keep - Victoria Alexander|2]] - [[Victoria Alexander]] in "[[The Night Before Christmas - Anthology 2004|The Night Before Christmas]]", 1996 ([[Leisure]])

Promises To Keep

2009-10-24T13:02:37Z

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[[category:Books - Same Title]]
'''Promises To Keep''' is the title of books by:

* [[Promises To Keep - Rose Marie Ferris|1]] - [[Rose Marie Ferris]], 1981 ([[Candlelight Ecstasy Romance]] [[Candlelight Ecstasy Romance By The Numbers|#30]])
* [[Promises To Keep - Vivian Connolly|2]] - [[Vivian Connolly]], 1984 ([[To Have And To Hold Series|To Have And To Hold]] [[To Have And To Hold By The Numbers|# 30]])
* [[Promises To Keep - Maura McGiveny|3]] - [[Maura McGiveny]], 1984 ([[Harlequin Presents By The Numbers|Harlequin Presents #723]])
* [[Promises To Keep - Carolyn Thornton|4]] - [[Carolyn Thornton]], 1984 ([[Silhouette Special Edition]])
* [[Promises To Keep - Nina Beaumont|5]] - [[Nina Beaumont]], 1992 ([[Harlequin Historical By The Numbers|Harlequin Historical #153]])
* [[Promises To Keep - Jane Peart|6]] - [[Jane Peart]], 1998 ([[Love Inspired]])
* [[Promises To Keep - Josie Metcalfe|7]] - [[Josie Metcalfe]], 1998 ([[Mills and Boon Medical Romance By The Numbers|Mills & Boon Medical Romance #823]])

'''Promises To Keep''' is the title of novellas by:

* [[Promises To Keep - Allison Lane|1]] - [[Allison Lane]] in "[[Grand Hotel]]", 2000 ([[Signet]])
* [[Promises To Keep - Victoria Alexander|2]] - [[Victoria Alexander]] in "[[[[The Night Before Christmas - Anthology 2004|The Night Before Christmas]]", 1996 ([[Leisure]])

Michelle Styles

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{{DEFAULTSORT:Styles, Michelle}}
[[Category:Authors - S]][[Category:Harlequin Historical Authors]][[Category: Historical Romance Authors]]

[[Michelle Styles]] is a historical romance author. Her books are published by Harlequin Historical in the North American market and by Mills and Boon Historical in the United Kingdom. Her debut novel, The Gladiator's Honour, was the first book that Mills and Boon historical published in the Roman time period. It was a finalist in Romantic Novelist Association's Romance Prize 2007. She has also written books set in the Viking, Victorian and Regecny time periods.

== On the Web ==
* [http://www.michellestyles.co.uk Michelle Styles] - this is Michelle Styles's main website
* http://www.michellestyles.blogspot.com/ is where she keeps her blog.

== Books ==
=== Fiction ===
*[[The Gladiator's Honor]] - 2006 ([[Harlequin]] [[Mills and Boon]]) UK and North America
*[[A Noble Captive]] -- 2007([[Mills and Boon]]UK
*[[Sold and Seduced]] -- 2007 ([[Mills and Boon]]) UK
*[[The Roman's Virgin Mistress]] -- 2007 ([[Harlequin]] [[Mills and Boon]]) UK and North America
*[[Taken by the Viking]] -- 2007 ([[Mills and Boon]]) UK
*[[A Christmas Wedding Wager]] -- 2007 ([[Harlequin ]]) North America (part of [[Christmas by Candlelight]] with [[Helen Dickson]] ([[Mills and Boon]]))
*[[Viking Warrior, Unwilling Wife]] - 2008 ([[Harlequin]] [[Mills and Boon]]) UK and North America
*[[Impoverished Miss, Convenient Wife]] - 2009 ([[Mills and Boon]]) UK

Michelle Styles

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Sweety1746:

{{DEFAULTSORT:Styles, Michelle}}
[[Category:Authors - S]][[Category:Harlequin Historical Authors]][[Category: Historical Romance Authors]]

[[Michelle Styles]] is a historical romance author. Her books are published by Harlequin Historical in the North American market and by Mills and Boon Historical in the United Kingdom. Her debut novel, The Gladiator's Honour, was the first book that Mills and Boon historical published in the Roman time period. It was a finalist in Romantic Novelist Association's Romance Prize 2007. She has also written books set in the Viking, Victorian and Regecny time periods.

== On the Web ==
* [http://www.michellestyles.co.uk Michelle Styles] - this is Michelle Styles's main website
* http://www.michellestyles.blogspot.com/ is where she keeps her blog.

== Books ==
=== Fiction ===
*[[The Gladiator's Honor]] - 2006 ([[Harlequin]] [[Mills and Boon]]) UK and North America
*[[A Noble Captive]] -- 2007([[Mills and Boon]]UK
*[[Sold and Seduced]] -- 2007 ([[Mills and Boon]]) UK
*[[The Roman's Virgin Mistress]] -- 2007 ([[Harlequin]] [[Mills and Boon]]) UK and North America
*[[Taken by the Viking]] -- 2007 ([[Mills and Boon]]) UK
*[[A Christmas Wedding Wager]] -- 2007 ([[Harlequin ]] North America part of [[Christmas by Candlelight]] with [[Helen Dickson]]) [[Mills and Boon]]
*[[Viking Warrior, Unwilling Wife]] - 2008 ([[Harlequin]] [[Mills and Boon]]) UK and North America
*[[Impoverished Miss, Convenient Wife]] - 2009 ([[Mills and Boon]]) UK

Michelle Styles

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{{DEFAULTSORT:Styles, Michelle}}
[[Category:Authors - S]][[Category:Harlequin Historical Authors]][[Category: Historical Romance Authors]]

[[Michelle Styles]] is a historical romance author. Her books are published by Harlequin Historical in the North American market and by mills and Boon Historical in the United Kingdom. Her debut novel, The Gladiator's Honour, was the first book that Mills and Boon historical published in the Roman time period. It was a finalist in Romantic Novelist Association's Romance Prize 2007. She has also written books set in the Viking, Victorian and Regecny time periods.

== On the Web ==
* [http://www.michellestyles.co.uk Michelle Styles] - this is Michelle Styles's main website
* http://www.michellestyles.blogspot.com/ is where she keeps her blog.

== Books ==
=== Fiction ===
*[[The Gladiator's Honor]] - 2006 ([[Harlequin]] [[Mills and Boon]]) UK and North America
*[[A Noble Captive]] -- 2007([[Mills and Boon]]UK
*[[Sold and Seduced]] -- 2007 ([[Mills and Boon]]) UK
*[[The Roman's Virgin Mistress]] -- 2007 ([[Harlequin]] [[Mills and Boon]]) UK and North America
*[[Taken by the Viking]] -- 2007 ([[Mills and Boon]]) UK
*[[A Christmas Wedding Wager]] -- 2007 ([[Harlequin ]] North America part of [[Christmas by Candlelight]] with [[Helen Dickson]]) [[Mills and Boon]]
*[[Viking Warrior, Unwilling Wife]] - 2008 ([[Harlequin]] [[Mills and Boon]]) UK and North America
*[[Impoverished Miss, Convenient Wife]] - 2009 ([[Mills and Boon]]) UK

Romance Wiki:Community Discussion

2008-10-05T18:08:50Z

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[[category:Help|Community Discussion]]
'''Welcome''' to a new discussion page. This page is used to discuss the general topics that don't fit on an article or user talk page. You can ask questions, discuss policies, contents, operations and technical issues of RomanceWiki. Discussions will be archived once this page gets too long.

{{Talk Page box}}

'''Note:''' The talk page (reached by clicking "discussion" tab at the top of the page) for this '''Community Discussion''' page will be used to discuss things concerning this page itself, e.g., the layout, content.

==What Should We Call This?==
Yay! We have a place to talk about all those things that don't fit anywhere else. But, what should we call this discussion page? On Wikipedia, the page is called the "Village Pump." That does not sound very "romance-y" and we don't want to just copy them. I have suggested elsewhere that we call it the "Tea Room," or "Coffee House." What are your suggestions?--[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 16:02, 19 September 2007 (PDT) ''P.S. While we get the page set up, is it okay to have discussions about this page here. Once we have it going, such discussions should go to the project talk page.''

:Discussion Parlor? --[[User:Robini|Robini]] 19:49, 19 September 2007 (PDT)

::I like Parlor(y) type names, water cooler is good, Tea Room...like that. Or we could go with a Regency theme with Assembly Room(s).--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 09:56, 22 September 2007 (PDT)

:I vote for "Tea Room". --[[User:DawnBurn|DawnBurn]] 14:29, 25 September 2007 (PDT)

==Announcements?==
We could also use this for announcements although that does not seem right. Anyway, there is a new [[Help:Talk Pages]] with a question on its [[Help talk:Talk Pages]]. --[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 16:25, 19 September 2007 (PDT)

==Awards==
I think we need an award for [[User:Leigh]] and [[User:Amy]]. It is a slow day when they are not around adding/fixing hundreds of books! Thanks! --[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 15:00, 29 September 2007 (PDT)
:I second this nomination (though would also note that [[User:Kay T]] and [[User:DawnBurn]] have been equally awesome. I only glanced at the site while on vacation (apparently there's a rule against wiking while on vacation, though I did get a few interesting comments about my RW t-shirt -- wiki means "quick" in Hawaiian!), so it's just awesome to see all the new stuff and, especially, all the content clean-up. I know that Leigh is aware of the offer for a book bag (and Kay's was finally put in the mail!), so Dawn and Amy, if you're needing a bag, let me know.--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 19:48, 29 October 2007 (PDT)
::Um, I'm highly flattered. I do think Leigh & Amy should get awards for most prolific and most page additions. I believe I serve mostly as a gadfly and doing background organizational stuff which appeals to my anal retentative side without requiring new content from me. If you have extra bags, I would be honored to receive one, but I'd prefer to wait until both Leigh & Amy have been contacted because they are super duper awesome. --[[User:DawnBurn|DawnBurn]] 16:05, 30 October 2007 (PDT)
:::Wow, thanks guys :) I have to say I don't add nearly as many pages as Leigh -- I tend to get on something like adding book descriptions to Superromance pages and go and go and go until I find something else to obsess over. What I really need is wiki rehab! :) --[[User:Amy|Amy]] 18:01, 30 October 2007 (PDT)

::::Chocolate for rehab! We need chocolate! We really do appreciate all of your hard work - fixing or adding. I just know that when I first made the comment, I looked at Recent changes and there were no entries from Amy or Leigh yet that day - a slow day indeed! Sort of scary. Felt like I needed to call you to make sure you were okay. ;) And having people understand RomanceWiki well enough to do the behind the scenes stuff is so great! Thanks --[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 16:07, 1 November 2007 (PDT)

==Category: Books by Publisher ==
I have noticed that several publisher categories have been created and used on book pages for that publisher's books. This is not a bad idea, and I created a mega-category: [[:Category:Books By Publisher]]. We could add a publisher category on the book template. What do you all think? --[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 20:20, 29 October 2007 (PDT)
:Looks like we're both up late (okay, heading off to bed after this -- have to return to the Evil Empire tomorrow). I think, way back when, I might have started to categorize books by publisher, but not categories. I quickly realized that the by publisher designation might be useful, but was also unwieldy. Books by imprint -- which is closer, I think, to what you're doing here -- makes more sense. Nobody seeks "Books by Harlequin", but they do seek "Presents" (or Harlequin Presents). Just as with the author designation, it makes sense to categorize books in this way.

:I am guilty of being inconsistent in this regard (having not found my original method of categorizing books by publisher to be particularly effective). I would agitate for imprint over publisher, but publisher if imprint is unknown/not easily discernible. I am strongly in favor of offering the maximum number of options for finding content. Other thoughts?--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 23:46, 29 October 2007 (PDT)

::Yes, I would probably do book imprints since we have started to use those for Harlequin, but for Red Rose it is probably okay to just do the publisher for now. The other publisher category that had been created was for Samhain, but that was one that had been nominated for deletion, and I think you did delete it this weekend. Maybe Dawn or others will have some thoughts on this. I am not wedded to one way or the other. --[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 13:24, 30 October 2007 (PDT)

:::The reason why the Samhain page was up for deletion was because it was a double, IIRC. I'm not against [[:Category:Books By Publisher]] in that the point of RW is to help people find the books they are looking for. However, I do think [[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]]'s notes are potentially troublesome. In that what category do we use for things like Harlequin versus Blaze (Publisher versus Imprint). I think more people do look by imprint,and if each imprint category was a subset of the overarching publisher, that might be good. But we already have inconsistencies in how the imprints are named or referenced on the book pages. I'm realizing I'm not making a preference either way. Umm... yes to having the mega-category being added, and potentially yes to that being added to the template. But realizing that all previously created pages won't have and that we'll likely get duplicates of categories due to spelling/caps/inclusion of publisher and imprint or just imprint/etc. into those categories. --[[User:DawnBurn|DawnBurn]] 16:03, 30 October 2007 (PDT)

::::Darn you Dawn for practicality! Here's my thinking, for what it's worth (about what you're paying...). When I first started, I was a naive babe in the woods. I think -- and someone will surely correct me as it was a rookie error -- I named a page "Romance". It meant either Harlequin or Silhouette Romance (I can't recall), but it was a stupid page name and I'm crossing my fingers that the more organized of us have fixed it.

::::I do believe that people search more by imprint than publisher (though in the case of Harlequin, both are equally popular). If I were to do it all over, I would create a mega-category for each publisher and then a sub-category for each imprint. That would achieve the goal of making sure that information was accessible no matter how people search (and people search in ways you cannot begin to imagine -- if you're ever bored, watch a co-worker or friend or (best) mother search. It's quite stunning and also educational.

::::So I am advocating for a particular hierarchy, but also realizing that this is a huge time suck (and when it comes to the wiki, we all so many of those, right?). But...light, tunnel, all that. If someone has the energy and time to write a set of rules for categorization, I do have a resource who can help. If not, my feeling is we make this a future project while we put guidelines in place for go-forward content. Thoughts, agreements, disagreements, better ideas (you all have way better ideas than moi)...? --[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]], signed for author by [[User:DawnBurn|DawnBurn]] 16:58, 8 November 2007 (PST)

Shock, gasp! You forgot to sign your post, RomanceWiki. My thought was that this could be added to the template and as you said we could add the publisher category going forward, gradually adding to existing books as needed. What other complications are we not thinking of? One is that a category of "Avon" might contain both books, info about the publisher and authors. Does that matter? I also wonder if there is some "easy" way of doing this. At this point, as you see from the mega-category ([[:Category:Books By Publisher]]), there are both imprint categories, publisher categories, and articles with lists of books by publisher. We could also add the numbered series here if we wanted to. hmmm...--[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 13:22, 2 November 2007 (PDT)

:Replying to Kay's post, but the general thread. I have some LIMITED experience with writing code. I might be able to come up with a rule set, if we are talking about a bot. I think this thread speaks to a general "need" to clean up. There is still the [[Romance]] page, and the naming of the imprints (and their associated by the number pages) is um... random at best. But moving all of those pages (nominally annoying) and then fixing all the redirects (way more annoying) could be more easily done by a use of bot, which would then potentially allow at the same a restructuring of the mega-category to allow more searching. So, it might be of benefit to examine if from a complete overhaul instead of just 'going forward.' I'm willing to use what limited code skills I have toward this and I've considered more than once figuring out enough to write a bot that would auto add the Same Title, Multiple Author books to the Books Alpha pages (which, incidentally, I'm not fond of and are incomplete and hard to use, not that I actually have a better suggestion). Umm... short summary:

:Let's talk (here or in group chat) about how it might be best to restructure from the ground up with the use of a bot for any high repetitive tasks in cleanup.--[[User:DawnBurn|DawnBurn]] 16:58, 8 November 2007 (PST)

::Dawn, I think that someone here might have figured out how to use AWB (from Wikipedia) to do some repetitive tasks, and I have wanted to learn but am afraid. :) One of the problems of thinking or talking about a mega-category and the category tree structure is that there is no good way of seeing that structure on the wiki. That even drives me crazy on the [[RomanceWiki:Category Index]] -- hard to show the structure. At one point (many moons ago) I had dumped all the categories into Excel and then made the structure more obvious. How would you suggest we do a restructure? Should we move this to the category index talk page?--[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 13:43, 9 November 2007 (PST)

== Traffic Analysis ==
Before I go back and read what Kay and Dawn are discussing above (lot of words, little coffee), I'll introduce a new idea for those of you who love to waste time on research. When I have time, I like to focus on building up content related to search phrases used to bring (see recent pages for [[Anne Weale]] and [[Sara Seale]] as examples). I've pulled out the approximately [[Top 20 Search Phrases]] that our readers are using (note: this list is edited to toss out things like "romancewiki"). If you're looking for hours of fun, adding content to these pages is the way to go!--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 10:12, 10 November 2007 (PST)

== Discussion Options ==
To make the discussions about structure and content more efficient, I am wondering if we need to create a list, forum, blog (which, yes, is still high on my list -- just waiting for tech guy to add Kay's category page. I am turning into quite the nag on that).--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 10:12, 10 November 2007 (PST)

==Publishers and Books with Same Name==
I've encountered another problem with creating disambiguation pages - books that have the same name as a publisher or imprint. Some examples:
* [[Splendor]] and [[Temptation]] - imprint pages to which another user has added information about a book (sigh)
* [[Genesis]] (publisher) and [[Genesis (CP)]] (book)
Should we create a disambig page listing both the books and imprint (and if so, do the imprint pages need to be moved to "Title - Imprint" -- as we renamed similar anthology pages "Title - Anthology")? The problem with that, of course, is that a ton of links to that imprint will have be changed. Does anyone have a better solution? --[[User:Amy|Amy]] 19:47, 30 November 2007 (PST)

:Funny you should mention this as I encountered this situation this week. In my case, because there were so few links to deal with, I changed the publisher name to the full title. However, since someone (me, I'm ashamed to admit) started off calling Temptation, Temptation, there are far too many links to change (though, I can ask my husband's assistant to do that if we choose to got that route -- she has the, as they say, bandwidth).

:I admit that I like the idea of adding imprints to the disambiguation pages. Sick I know. I am willing to manage the task of dealing with the Temptation and Splendor links (first) if we agree that this is the optimal solution. I'm going to ping Leigh, Kay, and Dawn to weigh in.--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 21:05, 30 November 2007 (PST)

::Sorry, I have not been around lately! I have to say that I like the solution of having the imprint on the disamb page. Of course, thinking about the consequences of this is rather mind-boggling. If we moved '''Temptation''' the imprint to a page called '''Harlequin Temptation''' the the links would automatically redirect. But if we then wanted to make a disamb page called '''Temptation''' we would have to change all the links (I am not sure if that is even doable without a bot, has your "assistant" figured out bots?). I suppose we could call the disamb page '''Temptation (disambiguation)'''?? Don't really have my wiki-hat on right now. In the short term we could just make the book pages with the author's name, a disamb page called '''Temptation (disambiguation)''' and ?? --[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 15:52, 4 December 2007 (PST)

:::Actually, I'm more than halfway through making the page changes (I had some client downtime this week and am taking full advantage of this brief respite!); however, making the change through the database was option two. In fact, I was in the process of writing the rules for this when I realized I was going to be done with the project before I could turn it over. So I'm thinking that when this done (today or tomorrow), I'll contact Amy and she can her piece, I'll do my piece (moving a few authors), and we can add the '''Temptation''' imprint to the disambiguation page. I like that this makes the disambig concept more complete. I like complete.

:::I'm hoping the Genesis project is much smaller, otherwise, I'll go with making the changes on the database side (or, if you will the "bot" solution).--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 11:25, 5 December 2007 (PST)

::::So I haven't been around (just started a new job and didn't see my talk page), but I just wanted to briefly say that I like the idea of having moved the '''Temptation''' to '''Harlequin Temptation'''. And I do think a bot solution could be done (still on my list of things to do is to play with a bot) since it would be a matter of changing all the pages (mostly) that link there. So, in general, I support fuller Imprint Article Titles (Publisher Imprint). --[[User:DawnBurn|DawnBurn]] 11:35, 7 December 2007 (PST)

:::::Kassia, thanks for taking care of the Temptation thing. Fixing [[Splendor]] and [[Genesis]] will much, much shorter since only a couple pages link to them. In fact, I should get [[Splendor]] done tonight. --[[User:Amy|Amy]] 16:37, 10 December 2007 (PST)

::::::Then there's the final one to look at: Desire. It's on my mental radar rather than active radar since the schedule is much tighter this week.--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 19:50, 11 December 2007 (PST)

==Author Page Help==
Hi, this is Lillith Payne. I'm new here and confused!
I set up a basic page and can open it and print it.
I CAN'T OPEN IT FROM THE AUTHOR LIST!
If anyone can give me simple directions to correct this I'd appreciate it.
My thanks, Lillith
:Hi Lillith. Looks like you edited your user page [[User:Lillith Payne]] with your info but didn't create an actual wiki page. I've gone ahead and started one at [[Lillith Payne]] with the info from your user page and added you to the author list so you should be good to go. --[[User:Amy|Amy]] 15:15, 16 January 2008 (PST)

Hi Amy,
Thank you so much for your help. I found the process completely frustrating not being able to find the fix. When I logged on today I knew I must have found a guardian angel. Consider me your random act of kindness for the week. Lillith
:No problem Lillith, glad to help :) --[[User:Amy|Amy]] 14:44, 17 January 2008 (PST)

== RW Workflow ==
Rather than post this on my personal page (which I'm sure is out there somewhere!), I just thought I'd give a quick update about the big content stuff in progress (especially since Amy and Leigh are going gangbusters!). I'm adding author pages for all the [[Silhouette Romance]] authors and will do the by the numbers pages if someone doesn't beat me to it (I have all the content ready to roll when I get that far in my file). After that, I will go back and add the author pages for [[Harlequin Temptation]] authors. For some bizarre reason -- old age, probably -- I did the by the numbers pages, but never did all the work for each author. Quite a few have already been created by others, so I'll be filling in the gaps there. Phew!

On a go-forward basis, I am building a whole slate of author pages for various category lines. This is going alphabetically by author and should take a good long time. However, we'll have a huge database of romance authors with the best biographical information I can find (and yeah, if you know stuff I don't...). After that, I'll need to come up with a game plan for the rest of the bunch, but since I'm still on the "A" list of authors, I'm not rushing there.

To add some color, especially for older authors without much information, I'm also tracking down at least one halfway decent cover image. If anyone needs me to work on something else, just give a shout-out. Since this current workplan is so huge, I don't mind getting sidetracked a bit.

Also, I'm thinking we need to give some love to writing romance -- anyone know anyone who might be a great resource for this?--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 21:30, 24 January 2008 (PST)

:"''give some love to writing romance''"

:What did you have in mind here RW? Good game plan, I somehow missed this when I was here the other day. --[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 17:46, 2 February 2008 (PST)

::Specifically, I referring to building a good, strong writer resource section. I know we have some bits and pieces here and there, but it would be terrific to have an organized section. It's really the one area where we haven't made inroads, content-wise. It's on my long-term mental plan of things to do, but given my current workplan, it's a seriously future deal.--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 21:09, 6 February 2008 (PST)

:::Yes, we could use some more here. Just for future reference, I have tried to keep up lists and links on the [[Resources]] page and in the [[:category:Romance Resources]]. --[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 21:08, 7 February 2008 (PST)

==Publisher's lines, numbered series==
Leigh has been busy cleaning up the pages that contain lists of books in publisher's lines. Proactively, should we have a section in the [[Help:Style Manual|style manual]] that says something like:

'''Publisher Imprints & Lines''' 
When creating a page for a publisher's imprint, for example, [[Intimate Moments]], it is best to include the name of the publisher in the title, [[Silhouette Intimate Moments]]. This makes it clearer that the article is about an imprint or line and not about a book with that title.

What do we think?? --[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 11:49, 31 January 2008 (PST)
: That sounds like a good idea to me. --[[User:Leigh|Leigh]]
::I am in agreement with Leigh (who has been doing amazing work lately!). As noted above, I am doing loads and loads of author pages (which will be added to wiki as I get through the previous things -- there is something about having a queue that makes me excited), and I am using the publisher pages as guidelines when I create my links.

::If Leigh needs to push some mindless content clean-up my way, just say the word. There are days when I need to put the brain on auto-pilot (especially lately...if only I had the time to do so!). ''And'' the husband's assistant is available for projects -- she's super tech savvy and has done a few wiki projects already. Wiki projects are not highest priority (!@@#$ men!), but tell me if there's something that you can't get to.--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 20:58, 31 January 2008 (PST)

{{done}}
--[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 17:52, 2 February 2008 (PST)
::Kay -- I love the little graphics. They make me smile!--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 20:43, 6 February 2008 (PST)

:::Yes, it is so perky! Hope your temporary dislocation is going okay, and you have found some books to read! even if you weren't dislocated we are in a dry spell, I think. --[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 21:08, 7 February 2008 (PST)

==Author Page Help==
Hi, my name is Cheryl A. Cornell. I set up a new page for myself yesterday, 2/9/08 for my first published novel, Treasure Found through The Wild Rose Press. Thought I followed the directions but I'm not showing up on the author list. If anyone has any ideas what I did wrong or how to fix it I'd appreciate any information you can give. I believed I edited the page but wasn't able to create it. Thanks to anyone who can help, Cheryl 10:35AM 2-10-08

*I'm not sure if there was some database funkiness, or if you actually set up your info on your user page by mistake. User pages are different than author pages, because not every wiki user is an author - I've got a user page frex., but I'm just an editor. Anyways, I went ahead and added a page for you in the actual content of the wiki (user page "space" is different) and filled out the sorting/listing stuff for you. Your page can be found at [[Cheryl A. Cornell]], and I filled out what I could of the Standard wiki template. You can edit it as you see fit, and delete the sections that don't apply to you (like pseudonyms). Also, if you click on the link for your book, I've loaded the books page template onto that page. You can click "edit" and fill out the info for your book, specifically. --[[User:Robini|Robini]] 13:37, 10 February 2008 (PST)

==Thanks for Author Help==
Hi Robini,
Thanks for your help getting this straight and posted. I truly appreciate
you giving me your time and knowledge; as you can tell this is beyond what my brain can compute. It's nice to be in a place where people actually help each other. I appreciate the welcome, Cheryl 2/11/08 9:52AM

== HQ Series Numbering Discussion ==
Hi Teresa, I'm pasting your question below first, then trying to answer the question (I'm still out of town ... and down with a nasty cold, so if I'm incoherent, excuse me):
<blockquote>I have resently downloaded the Presents and Romance by the number pages to have a complete list of the titles. The problem i'm having is that there seems to be 2 seperate and distince collections in both. I don't understand how this is possible. Is there someplace else i can find the alternate lists?</blockquote>
What we're using here at the RomanceWiki is the US numbering system. The lines are also released in other countries, so that might account for differences. Or there is (always) the possibility of user error -- especially when it comes to the very early [[Harlequin Romance]] titles as I had to do a lot of digging to find those titles (and, yeah, I've whined to the Harlequin people about this, but I suspect they don't have a database going back to day one either).

If you're finding differences, I'd appreciate it if you brought them to my attention, or, since [[:User:Leigh|Leigh]] has been uber-terrific about adding content to these sections, her. We definitely want to get it right!--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 17:26, 11 March 2008 (PDT)
: It looks like Harlequin released some Romance and Presents titles to subscribers only in the late 80s/90s. The numbering for these books began again at 1 rather than fitting into the numbers of the retail books, creating a second set of Romance and Presents books whose numbers were significantly lower than the regular ones released at the same time, even though there doesn't seem to be much difference in their covers or content. We probably should add pages for these lists too, but I don't know what they should be called. --[[User:Leigh|Leigh]]

::Okay, I do have those subscription listings in my (extremely long) queue! I am adding the word "Subscription" to the end of the imprint name (ie, Harlequin Romance Subscription By The Numbers, etc). Since it's going to be a while before I upload these lists (I have found -- don't call me a slow learn (g) -- that if I do the author listings ''before'' I do the By The Numbers pages, I can correct for many of the "same title, multiple author" scenarios without having to do a lot of rework), if someone wants to start these listings now, just follow the above syntax so things will line up nicely with the categories. If for some reason it's deemed that a better title would work, just let me know and I'll do a search and replace in my text file (it won't be the first, nor the last!).--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 15:22, 13 March 2008 (PDT)
:::I went ahead and started the pages. I'll add the titles ASAP. --[[User:Leigh|Leigh]]

==Vintage Romance Novels - best places to find==
I collect vintage Gothic Romance and Romantic Suspense novels (and have fallen in love with adding them here) but anyway back to the point - I used to be able to pick these up quite easily at books sales, garage sales, and flea markets. But not anymore they are becoming harder and harder to find. The only place I can usually get them at consistently is at Ebay. I have found another site that is fun that does have a lot of vintage novels on it and I am picking up quite a few of the [[Mystique]] books that I don't have there. It is [http://paperbackswap.com Paper Back Swap] - I've found it useful to list my duplicates. So the question is - what other resources do you guys use?? Anyone else know of other websites that you can get vintage paperbacks on at a reasonable price?? --[[User:Devilbuny|Devilbuny]] 05:10, 20 May 2008 (PDT)
:I don't buy as many vintage romances as I used to, though I have a weakness for 1950's era medical romances -- which I pick up at a vintage bookstore when I get out that way (my schedule is too insane to contemplate trying eBay or other sources). I think there used to be a group called Bookstore Junkies (might want to check Yahoogroups) that was a terrific resource for swaps.

:You might want to set up a page for other readers who are looking for great sources for classic books...I'm sure there are lots of great resources out there!--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 20:11, 20 May 2008 (PDT)

==What style for anthologies?==
Hello! I'm a little confused about which style to use for anthologies. I've seen different styles [[A Gift Of Love - Anthology]], [[Taming Him - Anthology]] (and also creating some by myself :( [[A Holiday Of Love]], [[Upon A Midnight Clear - Anthology]]) and before I change them, I would like to know if there's a prefered style? And if so, could someone please include the style into the book template? And should I treat the novellas like book titels by creating a link (and later an own page)? [[User:Sweety1746|Sweety1746]] 05:56, 1 October 2008 (PDT)

: I believe the style is still being debated. As I think about it, my personal preference is to omit the word "Anthology" from the page title. However, it makes sense to add it in those instances where you encounter multiple books with the same title (in keeping with the style guide of adding the author names in these situations). I am open to opinions, of course. I don't create a lot of book entries, so would like to hear from those who focus on that area.

: Novellas are tricky because it's sometimes hard to distinguish them from short stories. I tend to be more traditional style guide in this regard, creating a book page for the entire book and including information about each individual story on that page. On the author pages (and I admit I've changed my mind since the early days of adding content), I go with this approach:
:: <nowiki>* "Tame, Tame, Tame", ''[[Taming Him]]'' - 2008 ([[Publisher]]), with [[other author]], [[other author]] (if other authors are applicable</nowiki>
--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 17:46, 3 October 2008 (PDT)

==Lists by last name and first name==
I need some help with this lists by surname and subname and such. I hope I can correctly explain what I mean. So, first let's see if I got all this lists right: 1. There are lists (i.e. [[Authors - C]]), in which the authors are sorted by their last name (surname), but I have to add an author by hand. I use this if I just can recall the last name of an author.
2. Lists, that sort the authors by first names within all authors with the same initial of the last name (i.e. [http://www.romancewiki.com/Category:Authors_-_C]). Here the author appears automatically when I put the right category on the author's page. This list is useful if I can remember an author's first name, but am not sure about the last name (though I can exclude some possibilities).
So what is the line "DEFAULTSORT:Last name, First name" in the author template good for? If I use it, the author will be sorted by the last name in the 2. list, which makes no sense according to the discription on page "Category:Authors By Subname".
And by the way, what is a "subname"? I coudn't find a translation or definition anywhere.[[User:Sweety1746|Sweety1746]] 07:11, 1 October 2008 (PDT)
: Here is the rule of thumb for these lists:
: # The alphabetical author pages are straight alpha listings, done, as you've noted manually. People search for content in multiple ways. These author listings (which I always use as my starting point when I add a new author page) are a convenience. They should be alphabetical by last name, first name.
: # The category listings relate to question three. Categories are very cool for slicing and dicing content. However...
: # If you do not use the DEFAULTSORT option, then the names do not properly alphabetize on the page. DEFAULTSORT tells the software to use X order when displaying the content within the categories. Default sort Wiki, Romance places the information in the "W" area. Default sort Romance Wiki places it in the "R" area. It's preferable to have authors sort by last and first (it just looks better that way). I also use DEFAULTSORT with books whose titles begin with articles:
:: <nowiki>{{DEFAULTSORT:Spy Who Loved Me, The}}</nowiki>
: So, items two and three work hand-in-hand. Since item one is a manually generated list, it's up to the user to get the information in the right place. Does all this make sense, or have I muddied the waters even more? --[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 17:38, 3 October 2008 (PDT)
::Ok, thanks so far, but I think I'm still trying to figure out the "aim" of this lists created by using DEFAULTSORT. I created a page for Gayle Callen and naturally I added "Category:Authors - C" so she is in the right category. There, without using DEFAULSORT, she is in the "G" area after Gay Cameron (although Callen alphabethically comes before Cameron). And that's how I understand it should be according to the description on the general page (http://www.romancewiki.com/Category:Authors_By_Subname). Quote: "In the Subcategories below the authors are alphabetized by their first names, i.e., an author named Amy Andrews will appear before Anne Anderson." In this example, both authors are listed in category A because of their last name and in the "A" area because of their first name. And if there's an author named Mary Andrews, she will be also in category A, but in the "M" area, ''won't she''? (question#1)
::But if I use DEFAULTSORT for my author, she is listed by her last name and appears as "Gaylen Callen" (first name - last name) in the "C" area. Only when there is another author with last name "Callen", they will be alphabetized by their first names. So, if I use DEFAULTSORT for all authors whose last names beginn with "C", there will be no subdividing into different areas in category C because all authors will be listed by their last names and so appear in the same area? (question#2) And then the example on the general page isn't correct!
::And, considerin all things, using DEFAULTSORT will automatically create a list without areas and only (no offence) because the style "first name - last name" doesn't look good and maybe isn't good to search through there are these other "handmade" lists "last name - first name"? (question#3)
::Please, let the answers to all three questions always be: "Correct!" :)

::: The description of the subcategories versus articles is incorrect.The [[:Category:Authors By Subname|Authors By Subname]] is automatically generated to pick up both categorized content and articles (which is really a redundant concept if all authors have been, at least, categorized correctly -- not everyone updates the manual list). Using DEFAULTSORT correctly alphabetizes authors by last, first no matter which category they're in, so I prefer it that way (and, if I recall correctly, [[:User:Kay T]] did a lot of work to fix missing DEFAULTS. It looks like it's time to clean up other entries again.
::: Getting closer to answering your question?
:::: Yeah, thanks. Now I understand the concept and will use DEFAULTSORT myself and add it on pages where it's still missing.

Romance Wiki:Community Discussion

2008-10-05T15:24:12Z

Sweety1746:

Romance Wiki:Community Discussion

2008-10-05T15:18:07Z

Sweety1746:

[[category:Help|Community Discussion]]
'''Welcome''' to a new discussion page. This page is used to discuss the general topics that don't fit on an article or user talk page. You can ask questions, discuss policies, contents, operations and technical issues of RomanceWiki. Discussions will be archived once this page gets too long.

{{Talk Page box}}

'''Note:''' The talk page (reached by clicking "discussion" tab at the top of the page) for this '''Community Discussion''' page will be used to discuss things concerning this page itself, e.g., the layout, content.

==What Should We Call This?==
Yay! We have a place to talk about all those things that don't fit anywhere else. But, what should we call this discussion page? On Wikipedia, the page is called the "Village Pump." That does not sound very "romance-y" and we don't want to just copy them. I have suggested elsewhere that we call it the "Tea Room," or "Coffee House." What are your suggestions?--[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 16:02, 19 September 2007 (PDT) ''P.S. While we get the page set up, is it okay to have discussions about this page here. Once we have it going, such discussions should go to the project talk page.''

:Discussion Parlor? --[[User:Robini|Robini]] 19:49, 19 September 2007 (PDT)

::I like Parlor(y) type names, water cooler is good, Tea Room...like that. Or we could go with a Regency theme with Assembly Room(s).--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 09:56, 22 September 2007 (PDT)

:I vote for "Tea Room". --[[User:DawnBurn|DawnBurn]] 14:29, 25 September 2007 (PDT)

==Announcements?==
We could also use this for announcements although that does not seem right. Anyway, there is a new [[Help:Talk Pages]] with a question on its [[Help talk:Talk Pages]]. --[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 16:25, 19 September 2007 (PDT)

==Awards==
I think we need an award for [[User:Leigh]] and [[User:Amy]]. It is a slow day when they are not around adding/fixing hundreds of books! Thanks! --[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 15:00, 29 September 2007 (PDT)
:I second this nomination (though would also note that [[User:Kay T]] and [[User:DawnBurn]] have been equally awesome. I only glanced at the site while on vacation (apparently there's a rule against wiking while on vacation, though I did get a few interesting comments about my RW t-shirt -- wiki means "quick" in Hawaiian!), so it's just awesome to see all the new stuff and, especially, all the content clean-up. I know that Leigh is aware of the offer for a book bag (and Kay's was finally put in the mail!), so Dawn and Amy, if you're needing a bag, let me know.--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 19:48, 29 October 2007 (PDT)
::Um, I'm highly flattered. I do think Leigh & Amy should get awards for most prolific and most page additions. I believe I serve mostly as a gadfly and doing background organizational stuff which appeals to my anal retentative side without requiring new content from me. If you have extra bags, I would be honored to receive one, but I'd prefer to wait until both Leigh & Amy have been contacted because they are super duper awesome. --[[User:DawnBurn|DawnBurn]] 16:05, 30 October 2007 (PDT)
:::Wow, thanks guys :) I have to say I don't add nearly as many pages as Leigh -- I tend to get on something like adding book descriptions to Superromance pages and go and go and go until I find something else to obsess over. What I really need is wiki rehab! :) --[[User:Amy|Amy]] 18:01, 30 October 2007 (PDT)

::::Chocolate for rehab! We need chocolate! We really do appreciate all of your hard work - fixing or adding. I just know that when I first made the comment, I looked at Recent changes and there were no entries from Amy or Leigh yet that day - a slow day indeed! Sort of scary. Felt like I needed to call you to make sure you were okay. ;) And having people understand RomanceWiki well enough to do the behind the scenes stuff is so great! Thanks --[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 16:07, 1 November 2007 (PDT)

==Category: Books by Publisher ==
I have noticed that several publisher categories have been created and used on book pages for that publisher's books. This is not a bad idea, and I created a mega-category: [[:Category:Books By Publisher]]. We could add a publisher category on the book template. What do you all think? --[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 20:20, 29 October 2007 (PDT)
:Looks like we're both up late (okay, heading off to bed after this -- have to return to the Evil Empire tomorrow). I think, way back when, I might have started to categorize books by publisher, but not categories. I quickly realized that the by publisher designation might be useful, but was also unwieldy. Books by imprint -- which is closer, I think, to what you're doing here -- makes more sense. Nobody seeks "Books by Harlequin", but they do seek "Presents" (or Harlequin Presents). Just as with the author designation, it makes sense to categorize books in this way.

:I am guilty of being inconsistent in this regard (having not found my original method of categorizing books by publisher to be particularly effective). I would agitate for imprint over publisher, but publisher if imprint is unknown/not easily discernible. I am strongly in favor of offering the maximum number of options for finding content. Other thoughts?--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 23:46, 29 October 2007 (PDT)

::Yes, I would probably do book imprints since we have started to use those for Harlequin, but for Red Rose it is probably okay to just do the publisher for now. The other publisher category that had been created was for Samhain, but that was one that had been nominated for deletion, and I think you did delete it this weekend. Maybe Dawn or others will have some thoughts on this. I am not wedded to one way or the other. --[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 13:24, 30 October 2007 (PDT)

:::The reason why the Samhain page was up for deletion was because it was a double, IIRC. I'm not against [[:Category:Books By Publisher]] in that the point of RW is to help people find the books they are looking for. However, I do think [[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]]'s notes are potentially troublesome. In that what category do we use for things like Harlequin versus Blaze (Publisher versus Imprint). I think more people do look by imprint,and if each imprint category was a subset of the overarching publisher, that might be good. But we already have inconsistencies in how the imprints are named or referenced on the book pages. I'm realizing I'm not making a preference either way. Umm... yes to having the mega-category being added, and potentially yes to that being added to the template. But realizing that all previously created pages won't have and that we'll likely get duplicates of categories due to spelling/caps/inclusion of publisher and imprint or just imprint/etc. into those categories. --[[User:DawnBurn|DawnBurn]] 16:03, 30 October 2007 (PDT)

::::Darn you Dawn for practicality! Here's my thinking, for what it's worth (about what you're paying...). When I first started, I was a naive babe in the woods. I think -- and someone will surely correct me as it was a rookie error -- I named a page "Romance". It meant either Harlequin or Silhouette Romance (I can't recall), but it was a stupid page name and I'm crossing my fingers that the more organized of us have fixed it.

::::I do believe that people search more by imprint than publisher (though in the case of Harlequin, both are equally popular). If I were to do it all over, I would create a mega-category for each publisher and then a sub-category for each imprint. That would achieve the goal of making sure that information was accessible no matter how people search (and people search in ways you cannot begin to imagine -- if you're ever bored, watch a co-worker or friend or (best) mother search. It's quite stunning and also educational.

::::So I am advocating for a particular hierarchy, but also realizing that this is a huge time suck (and when it comes to the wiki, we all so many of those, right?). But...light, tunnel, all that. If someone has the energy and time to write a set of rules for categorization, I do have a resource who can help. If not, my feeling is we make this a future project while we put guidelines in place for go-forward content. Thoughts, agreements, disagreements, better ideas (you all have way better ideas than moi)...? --[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]], signed for author by [[User:DawnBurn|DawnBurn]] 16:58, 8 November 2007 (PST)

Shock, gasp! You forgot to sign your post, RomanceWiki. My thought was that this could be added to the template and as you said we could add the publisher category going forward, gradually adding to existing books as needed. What other complications are we not thinking of? One is that a category of "Avon" might contain both books, info about the publisher and authors. Does that matter? I also wonder if there is some "easy" way of doing this. At this point, as you see from the mega-category ([[:Category:Books By Publisher]]), there are both imprint categories, publisher categories, and articles with lists of books by publisher. We could also add the numbered series here if we wanted to. hmmm...--[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 13:22, 2 November 2007 (PDT)

:Replying to Kay's post, but the general thread. I have some LIMITED experience with writing code. I might be able to come up with a rule set, if we are talking about a bot. I think this thread speaks to a general "need" to clean up. There is still the [[Romance]] page, and the naming of the imprints (and their associated by the number pages) is um... random at best. But moving all of those pages (nominally annoying) and then fixing all the redirects (way more annoying) could be more easily done by a use of bot, which would then potentially allow at the same a restructuring of the mega-category to allow more searching. So, it might be of benefit to examine if from a complete overhaul instead of just 'going forward.' I'm willing to use what limited code skills I have toward this and I've considered more than once figuring out enough to write a bot that would auto add the Same Title, Multiple Author books to the Books Alpha pages (which, incidentally, I'm not fond of and are incomplete and hard to use, not that I actually have a better suggestion). Umm... short summary:

:Let's talk (here or in group chat) about how it might be best to restructure from the ground up with the use of a bot for any high repetitive tasks in cleanup.--[[User:DawnBurn|DawnBurn]] 16:58, 8 November 2007 (PST)

::Dawn, I think that someone here might have figured out how to use AWB (from Wikipedia) to do some repetitive tasks, and I have wanted to learn but am afraid. :) One of the problems of thinking or talking about a mega-category and the category tree structure is that there is no good way of seeing that structure on the wiki. That even drives me crazy on the [[RomanceWiki:Category Index]] -- hard to show the structure. At one point (many moons ago) I had dumped all the categories into Excel and then made the structure more obvious. How would you suggest we do a restructure? Should we move this to the category index talk page?--[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 13:43, 9 November 2007 (PST)

== Traffic Analysis ==
Before I go back and read what Kay and Dawn are discussing above (lot of words, little coffee), I'll introduce a new idea for those of you who love to waste time on research. When I have time, I like to focus on building up content related to search phrases used to bring (see recent pages for [[Anne Weale]] and [[Sara Seale]] as examples). I've pulled out the approximately [[Top 20 Search Phrases]] that our readers are using (note: this list is edited to toss out things like "romancewiki"). If you're looking for hours of fun, adding content to these pages is the way to go!--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 10:12, 10 November 2007 (PST)

== Discussion Options ==
To make the discussions about structure and content more efficient, I am wondering if we need to create a list, forum, blog (which, yes, is still high on my list -- just waiting for tech guy to add Kay's category page. I am turning into quite the nag on that).--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 10:12, 10 November 2007 (PST)

==Publishers and Books with Same Name==
I've encountered another problem with creating disambiguation pages - books that have the same name as a publisher or imprint. Some examples:
* [[Splendor]] and [[Temptation]] - imprint pages to which another user has added information about a book (sigh)
* [[Genesis]] (publisher) and [[Genesis (CP)]] (book)
Should we create a disambig page listing both the books and imprint (and if so, do the imprint pages need to be moved to "Title - Imprint" -- as we renamed similar anthology pages "Title - Anthology")? The problem with that, of course, is that a ton of links to that imprint will have be changed. Does anyone have a better solution? --[[User:Amy|Amy]] 19:47, 30 November 2007 (PST)

:Funny you should mention this as I encountered this situation this week. In my case, because there were so few links to deal with, I changed the publisher name to the full title. However, since someone (me, I'm ashamed to admit) started off calling Temptation, Temptation, there are far too many links to change (though, I can ask my husband's assistant to do that if we choose to got that route -- she has the, as they say, bandwidth).

:I admit that I like the idea of adding imprints to the disambiguation pages. Sick I know. I am willing to manage the task of dealing with the Temptation and Splendor links (first) if we agree that this is the optimal solution. I'm going to ping Leigh, Kay, and Dawn to weigh in.--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 21:05, 30 November 2007 (PST)

::Sorry, I have not been around lately! I have to say that I like the solution of having the imprint on the disamb page. Of course, thinking about the consequences of this is rather mind-boggling. If we moved '''Temptation''' the imprint to a page called '''Harlequin Temptation''' the the links would automatically redirect. But if we then wanted to make a disamb page called '''Temptation''' we would have to change all the links (I am not sure if that is even doable without a bot, has your "assistant" figured out bots?). I suppose we could call the disamb page '''Temptation (disambiguation)'''?? Don't really have my wiki-hat on right now. In the short term we could just make the book pages with the author's name, a disamb page called '''Temptation (disambiguation)''' and ?? --[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 15:52, 4 December 2007 (PST)

:::Actually, I'm more than halfway through making the page changes (I had some client downtime this week and am taking full advantage of this brief respite!); however, making the change through the database was option two. In fact, I was in the process of writing the rules for this when I realized I was going to be done with the project before I could turn it over. So I'm thinking that when this done (today or tomorrow), I'll contact Amy and she can her piece, I'll do my piece (moving a few authors), and we can add the '''Temptation''' imprint to the disambiguation page. I like that this makes the disambig concept more complete. I like complete.

:::I'm hoping the Genesis project is much smaller, otherwise, I'll go with making the changes on the database side (or, if you will the "bot" solution).--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 11:25, 5 December 2007 (PST)

::::So I haven't been around (just started a new job and didn't see my talk page), but I just wanted to briefly say that I like the idea of having moved the '''Temptation''' to '''Harlequin Temptation'''. And I do think a bot solution could be done (still on my list of things to do is to play with a bot) since it would be a matter of changing all the pages (mostly) that link there. So, in general, I support fuller Imprint Article Titles (Publisher Imprint). --[[User:DawnBurn|DawnBurn]] 11:35, 7 December 2007 (PST)

:::::Kassia, thanks for taking care of the Temptation thing. Fixing [[Splendor]] and [[Genesis]] will much, much shorter since only a couple pages link to them. In fact, I should get [[Splendor]] done tonight. --[[User:Amy|Amy]] 16:37, 10 December 2007 (PST)

::::::Then there's the final one to look at: Desire. It's on my mental radar rather than active radar since the schedule is much tighter this week.--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 19:50, 11 December 2007 (PST)

==Author Page Help==
Hi, this is Lillith Payne. I'm new here and confused!
I set up a basic page and can open it and print it.
I CAN'T OPEN IT FROM THE AUTHOR LIST!
If anyone can give me simple directions to correct this I'd appreciate it.
My thanks, Lillith
:Hi Lillith. Looks like you edited your user page [[User:Lillith Payne]] with your info but didn't create an actual wiki page. I've gone ahead and started one at [[Lillith Payne]] with the info from your user page and added you to the author list so you should be good to go. --[[User:Amy|Amy]] 15:15, 16 January 2008 (PST)

Hi Amy,
Thank you so much for your help. I found the process completely frustrating not being able to find the fix. When I logged on today I knew I must have found a guardian angel. Consider me your random act of kindness for the week. Lillith
:No problem Lillith, glad to help :) --[[User:Amy|Amy]] 14:44, 17 January 2008 (PST)

== RW Workflow ==
Rather than post this on my personal page (which I'm sure is out there somewhere!), I just thought I'd give a quick update about the big content stuff in progress (especially since Amy and Leigh are going gangbusters!). I'm adding author pages for all the [[Silhouette Romance]] authors and will do the by the numbers pages if someone doesn't beat me to it (I have all the content ready to roll when I get that far in my file). After that, I will go back and add the author pages for [[Harlequin Temptation]] authors. For some bizarre reason -- old age, probably -- I did the by the numbers pages, but never did all the work for each author. Quite a few have already been created by others, so I'll be filling in the gaps there. Phew!

On a go-forward basis, I am building a whole slate of author pages for various category lines. This is going alphabetically by author and should take a good long time. However, we'll have a huge database of romance authors with the best biographical information I can find (and yeah, if you know stuff I don't...). After that, I'll need to come up with a game plan for the rest of the bunch, but since I'm still on the "A" list of authors, I'm not rushing there.

To add some color, especially for older authors without much information, I'm also tracking down at least one halfway decent cover image. If anyone needs me to work on something else, just give a shout-out. Since this current workplan is so huge, I don't mind getting sidetracked a bit.

Also, I'm thinking we need to give some love to writing romance -- anyone know anyone who might be a great resource for this?--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 21:30, 24 January 2008 (PST)

:"''give some love to writing romance''"

:What did you have in mind here RW? Good game plan, I somehow missed this when I was here the other day. --[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 17:46, 2 February 2008 (PST)

::Specifically, I referring to building a good, strong writer resource section. I know we have some bits and pieces here and there, but it would be terrific to have an organized section. It's really the one area where we haven't made inroads, content-wise. It's on my long-term mental plan of things to do, but given my current workplan, it's a seriously future deal.--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 21:09, 6 February 2008 (PST)

:::Yes, we could use some more here. Just for future reference, I have tried to keep up lists and links on the [[Resources]] page and in the [[:category:Romance Resources]]. --[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 21:08, 7 February 2008 (PST)

==Publisher's lines, numbered series==
Leigh has been busy cleaning up the pages that contain lists of books in publisher's lines. Proactively, should we have a section in the [[Help:Style Manual|style manual]] that says something like:

'''Publisher Imprints & Lines''' 
When creating a page for a publisher's imprint, for example, [[Intimate Moments]], it is best to include the name of the publisher in the title, [[Silhouette Intimate Moments]]. This makes it clearer that the article is about an imprint or line and not about a book with that title.

What do we think?? --[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 11:49, 31 January 2008 (PST)
: That sounds like a good idea to me. --[[User:Leigh|Leigh]]
::I am in agreement with Leigh (who has been doing amazing work lately!). As noted above, I am doing loads and loads of author pages (which will be added to wiki as I get through the previous things -- there is something about having a queue that makes me excited), and I am using the publisher pages as guidelines when I create my links.

::If Leigh needs to push some mindless content clean-up my way, just say the word. There are days when I need to put the brain on auto-pilot (especially lately...if only I had the time to do so!). ''And'' the husband's assistant is available for projects -- she's super tech savvy and has done a few wiki projects already. Wiki projects are not highest priority (!@@#$ men!), but tell me if there's something that you can't get to.--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 20:58, 31 January 2008 (PST)

{{done}}
--[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 17:52, 2 February 2008 (PST)
::Kay -- I love the little graphics. They make me smile!--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 20:43, 6 February 2008 (PST)

:::Yes, it is so perky! Hope your temporary dislocation is going okay, and you have found some books to read! even if you weren't dislocated we are in a dry spell, I think. --[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 21:08, 7 February 2008 (PST)

==Author Page Help==
Hi, my name is Cheryl A. Cornell. I set up a new page for myself yesterday, 2/9/08 for my first published novel, Treasure Found through The Wild Rose Press. Thought I followed the directions but I'm not showing up on the author list. If anyone has any ideas what I did wrong or how to fix it I'd appreciate any information you can give. I believed I edited the page but wasn't able to create it. Thanks to anyone who can help, Cheryl 10:35AM 2-10-08

*I'm not sure if there was some database funkiness, or if you actually set up your info on your user page by mistake. User pages are different than author pages, because not every wiki user is an author - I've got a user page frex., but I'm just an editor. Anyways, I went ahead and added a page for you in the actual content of the wiki (user page "space" is different) and filled out the sorting/listing stuff for you. Your page can be found at [[Cheryl A. Cornell]], and I filled out what I could of the Standard wiki template. You can edit it as you see fit, and delete the sections that don't apply to you (like pseudonyms). Also, if you click on the link for your book, I've loaded the books page template onto that page. You can click "edit" and fill out the info for your book, specifically. --[[User:Robini|Robini]] 13:37, 10 February 2008 (PST)

==Thanks for Author Help==
Hi Robini,
Thanks for your help getting this straight and posted. I truly appreciate
you giving me your time and knowledge; as you can tell this is beyond what my brain can compute. It's nice to be in a place where people actually help each other. I appreciate the welcome, Cheryl 2/11/08 9:52AM

== HQ Series Numbering Discussion ==
Hi Teresa, I'm pasting your question below first, then trying to answer the question (I'm still out of town ... and down with a nasty cold, so if I'm incoherent, excuse me):
<blockquote>I have resently downloaded the Presents and Romance by the number pages to have a complete list of the titles. The problem i'm having is that there seems to be 2 seperate and distince collections in both. I don't understand how this is possible. Is there someplace else i can find the alternate lists?</blockquote>
What we're using here at the RomanceWiki is the US numbering system. The lines are also released in other countries, so that might account for differences. Or there is (always) the possibility of user error -- especially when it comes to the very early [[Harlequin Romance]] titles as I had to do a lot of digging to find those titles (and, yeah, I've whined to the Harlequin people about this, but I suspect they don't have a database going back to day one either).

If you're finding differences, I'd appreciate it if you brought them to my attention, or, since [[:User:Leigh|Leigh]] has been uber-terrific about adding content to these sections, her. We definitely want to get it right!--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 17:26, 11 March 2008 (PDT)
: It looks like Harlequin released some Romance and Presents titles to subscribers only in the late 80s/90s. The numbering for these books began again at 1 rather than fitting into the numbers of the retail books, creating a second set of Romance and Presents books whose numbers were significantly lower than the regular ones released at the same time, even though there doesn't seem to be much difference in their covers or content. We probably should add pages for these lists too, but I don't know what they should be called. --[[User:Leigh|Leigh]]

::Okay, I do have those subscription listings in my (extremely long) queue! I am adding the word "Subscription" to the end of the imprint name (ie, Harlequin Romance Subscription By The Numbers, etc). Since it's going to be a while before I upload these lists (I have found -- don't call me a slow learn (g) -- that if I do the author listings ''before'' I do the By The Numbers pages, I can correct for many of the "same title, multiple author" scenarios without having to do a lot of rework), if someone wants to start these listings now, just follow the above syntax so things will line up nicely with the categories. If for some reason it's deemed that a better title would work, just let me know and I'll do a search and replace in my text file (it won't be the first, nor the last!).--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 15:22, 13 March 2008 (PDT)
:::I went ahead and started the pages. I'll add the titles ASAP. --[[User:Leigh|Leigh]]

==Vintage Romance Novels - best places to find==
I collect vintage Gothic Romance and Romantic Suspense novels (and have fallen in love with adding them here) but anyway back to the point - I used to be able to pick these up quite easily at books sales, garage sales, and flea markets. But not anymore they are becoming harder and harder to find. The only place I can usually get them at consistently is at Ebay. I have found another site that is fun that does have a lot of vintage novels on it and I am picking up quite a few of the [[Mystique]] books that I don't have there. It is [http://paperbackswap.com Paper Back Swap] - I've found it useful to list my duplicates. So the question is - what other resources do you guys use?? Anyone else know of other websites that you can get vintage paperbacks on at a reasonable price?? --[[User:Devilbuny|Devilbuny]] 05:10, 20 May 2008 (PDT)
:I don't buy as many vintage romances as I used to, though I have a weakness for 1950's era medical romances -- which I pick up at a vintage bookstore when I get out that way (my schedule is too insane to contemplate trying eBay or other sources). I think there used to be a group called Bookstore Junkies (might want to check Yahoogroups) that was a terrific resource for swaps.

:You might want to set up a page for other readers who are looking for great sources for classic books...I'm sure there are lots of great resources out there!--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 20:11, 20 May 2008 (PDT)

==What style for anthologies?==
Hello! I'm a little confused about which style to use for anthologies. I've seen different styles [[A Gift Of Love - Anthology]], [[Taming Him - Anthology]] (and also creating some by myself :( [[A Holiday Of Love]], [[Upon A Midnight Clear - Anthology]]) and before I change them, I would like to know if there's a prefered style? And if so, could someone please include the style into the book template? And should I treat the novellas like book titels by creating a link (and later an own page)? [[User:Sweety1746|Sweety1746]] 05:56, 1 October 2008 (PDT)

: I believe the style is still being debated. As I think about it, my personal preference is to omit the word "Anthology" from the page title. However, it makes sense to add it in those instances where you encounter multiple books with the same title (in keeping with the style guide of adding the author names in these situations). I am open to opinions, of course. I don't create a lot of book entries, so would like to hear from those who focus on that area.

: Novellas are tricky because it's sometimes hard to distinguish them from short stories. I tend to be more traditional style guide in this regard, creating a book page for the entire book and including information about each individual story on that page. On the author pages (and I admit I've changed my mind since the early days of adding content), I go with this approach:
:: <nowiki>* "Tame, Tame, Tame", ''[[Taming Him]]'' - 2008 ([[Publisher]]), with [[other author]], [[other author]] (if other authors are applicable</nowiki>
--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 17:46, 3 October 2008 (PDT)

==Lists by last name and first name==
I need some help with this lists by surname and subname and such. I hope I can correctly explain what I mean. So, first let's see if I got all this lists right: 1. There are lists (i.e. [[Authors - C]]), in which the authors are sorted by their last name (surname), but I have to add an author by hand. I use this if I just can recall the last name of an author.
2. Lists, that sort the authors by first names within all authors with the same initial of the last name (i.e. [http://www.romancewiki.com/Category:Authors_-_C]). Here the author appears automatically when I put the right category on the author's page. This list is useful if I can remember an author's first name, but am not sure about the last name (though I can exclude some possibilities).
So what is the line "DEFAULTSORT:Last name, First name" in the author template good for? If I use it, the author will be sorted by the last name in the 2. list, which makes no sense according to the discription on page "Category:Authors By Subname".
And by the way, what is a "subname"? I coudn't find a translation or definition anywhere.[[User:Sweety1746|Sweety1746]] 07:11, 1 October 2008 (PDT)
: Here is the rule of thumb for these lists:
: # The alphabetical author pages are straight alpha listings, done, as you've noted manually. People search for content in multiple ways. These author listings (which I always use as my starting point when I add a new author page) are a convenience. They should be alphabetical by last name, first name.
: # The category listings relate to question three. Categories are very cool for slicing and dicing content. However...
: # If you do not use the DEFAULTSORT option, then the names do not properly alphabetize on the page. DEFAULTSORT tells the software to use X order when displaying the content within the categories. Default sort Wiki, Romance places the information in the "W" area. Default sort Romance Wiki places it in the "R" area. It's preferable to have authors sort by last and first (it just looks better that way). I also use DEFAULTSORT with books whose titles begin with articles:
:: <nowiki>{{DEFAULTSORT:Spy Who Loved Me, The}}</nowiki>
: So, items two and three work hand-in-hand. Since item one is a manually generated list, it's up to the user to get the information in the right place. Does all this make sense, or have I muddied the waters even more? --[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 17:38, 3 October 2008 (PDT)
::Ok, thanks so far, but I think I'm still trying to figure out the "aim" of this lists created by using DEFAULTSORT. I created a page for Gayle Callen and naturally I added "Category:Authors - C" so she is in the right category. There, without using DEFAULSORT, she is in the "G" area after Gay Cameron (although Callen alphabethically comes before Cameron). And that's how I understand it should be according to the description on the general page (http://www.romancewiki.com/Category:Authors_By_Subname). Quote: "In the Subcategories below the authors are alphabetized by their first names, i.e., an author named Amy Andrews will appear before Anne Anderson." In this example, both authors are listed in category A because of their last name and in the "A" area because of their first name. And if there's an author named Mary Andrews, she will be also in category A, but in the "M" area, ''won't she''? (question#1)
::But if I use DEFAULTSORT for my author, she is listed by her last name and appears as "Gaylen Callen" (first name - last name) in the "C" area. Only when there is another author with last name "Callen", they will be alphabetized by their first names. So, if I use DEFAULTSORT for all authors whose last names beginn with "C", there will be no subdividing into different areas in category C because all authors will be listed by their last names and so appear in the same area? (question#2)
::And, considerin all things, using DEFAULTSORT will automatically create a list without areas and only (no offence) because the style "first name - last name" doesn't look good and maybe isn't good to search through there are these other "handmade" lists "last name - first name"? (question#3)
::Please, let the answers to all three questions always be: "Correct!" :)

Cathleen Galitz

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{{DEFAULTSORT:Galitz, Cathleen}} [[Category:Authors - G]] [[Category:Silhouette Romance Authors]] [[Category:Wyoming Authors]]
== Biography ==
Cathleen Galitz is both English teacher and writer. She is based in Wyoming. Writing for the [[Silhouette Romance]] line, Cathleen Galitz published three novels.

== Books ==
* ''[[100% Pure Cowboy]]'' - February 1998 ([[Silhouette Romance By The Numbers|Silhouette Romance #1279]])
* ''[[The Cowboy Who Broke The Mold]]'' - October 1997 ([[Silhouette Romance By The Numbers|Silhouette Romance #1257]])
* ''[[Wyoming Born And Bred|Wyoming Born & Bred]]'' July 1999 ([[Silhouette Romance By The Numbers|Silhouette Romance #1381]])

== On the Web ==
=== Interviews/Articles ===
* [http://www.writerspace.com/chat/chat070301.html] - Chat at Writerspace (with author [[Bronwyn Jameson]])

Suzanne Barclay

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{{DEFAULTSORT:Barclay, Suzanne}}[[Category:Authors - B]][[Category:Historical Romance Authors]] [[Category:Harlequin Historical Authors]] [[Category:Deceased Authors]]
== Biography ==
Suzanne Barclay (Carol Backus) passed away on September 15, 1999. She was a bestselling author for [[Harlequin Historical]], specializing in romance set in the [[Medieval]] era. Suzanne founded the [[Lake Country Romance Writers]] in 1988, and served as the chapter's first president.

== Books ==
*''[[Champion]]'' - 1999 ([[Harlequin Historical]], [[Harlequin Historical 401 - 500|#491]])
*''[[Knight's Ransom]]'' - 1996 ([[Harlequin Historical]], [[Harlequin Historical 301 - 400|#335]])
*''[[Knight's Rebellion]]'' - 1997 ([[Harlequin Historical]], [[Harlequin Historical 301 - 400|#391]])
*''[[Knights Divided]]'' - 1997 ([[Harlequin Historical]], [[Harlequin Historical 301 - 400|#359]])
*''[[Lion's Lady]]'' - 1998 ([[Harlequin Historical]], [[Harlequin Historical 401 - 500|#411]])
*''[[Lion's Legacy]]'' - 1996 ([[Harlequin Historical]], [[Harlequin Historical 301 - 400|#304]])
*''[[Pride Of Lions]]'' - 1998 ([[Harlequin Historical]], [[Harlequin Historical 401 - 500|#443]])
*''[[Taming The Lion]]'' - 1999 ([[Harlequin Historical]], [[Harlequin Historical 401 - 500|#463]])

==Novellas==
* "Kara's Gift" in ''[[The Knights of Christmas]]'' - 1997 ([[Harlequin Historical]], [[Harlequin Historical 301 - 400|#387]])

Kimberly Logan

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[[Category:Authors - L]]

==Books==
*''[[The Devil's Temptation|Devil's Temptation, The]] - 2007 ([[Avon]])
*''[[A Kiss Before Dawn|Kiss Before Dawn, A]]'' - 2005 ([[Avon]])
*''[[A Kiss In The Dark|Kiss In The Dark, A]]'' - 2005 ([[Avon]])
*''[[Seduced By Sin]]'' - 2008 ([[Avon]])
*''[[Sins Of Midnight]]'' - 2006 ([[Avon]])

A Kiss Before Dawn

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[[Category: 2005 Releases]]
* '''Author''': [[Kimberly Logan]]
* '''Publisher''': [[Avon]]
* '''Year''': 2005
* '''Setting''': England
* '''Amazon Listing''': [http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0060792469/ref=nosim/103-3685024-2000659?n=283155 A Kiss Before Dawn]

==Book Description==
A Bow Street runner is asked by the Earl of Ellington, to hunt down a thief who has been terrorizing the Oxfordshire countryside. The private runner agrees, even though he knows it will put him in contact with his childhood love, Lady Emily Knight. But Emily has a secret...she's involved in the very thefts her long lost love is investigating!

Scandlous Miranda

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[[Category:Pages To Be Deleted]]

Susan Sizemore

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{{DEFAULTSORT:Sizemore, Susan}}
[[category:Authors - S]]
[[Category:Award-Winning Authors]]
[[Category:Silhouette Authors]]
[[category:Silhouette Intimate Moments Authors]]
== Books ==
*''[[After The Storm - Susan Sizemore|After The Storm]]'' - 1996 ([[HarperCollins]])
*''[[The Autumn Lord|Autumn Lord, The]]'' - 1996 ([[HarperCollins]])
*''[[Captured Innocence]]'' - 2003 ([[Avon]])
*''[[Companions]]'' - 2007 ([[Ace Charter]])
*''[[Deceptions]]'' - 2007 ([[Ace Charter]])
*''[[Gates Of Hell]]'' 2000 ([[Speculation]])
*''[[Heroes]]'' - 2007 ([[Ace Charter]])
*''[[His Last Best Hope]]'' - 2000 ([[Silhouette Intimate Moments]])
*''[[The Hunt|Hunt, The]]'' - 2007 ([[Ace Charter]])
*''[[I Burn For You]]'' 2003 ([[Pocket Books]])
*''[[I Hunger For You]]'' 2005 ([[Pocket Books]])
*''[[I Thirst For You]]'' 2004 ([[Pocket Books]])
*''[[In My Dreams|In My Dreams]]'' - 1994 ([[HarperCollins]])
*''[[A Kind Of Magic - Susan Sizemore|Kind Of Magic, A]]'' - 2007 ([[Ellora's Cave Publishing]])
*''[[Master Of Darkness]]'' - 2007 ([[Pocket Books]])
*''[[My First Duchess]]'' - 1993 ([[HarperCollins]])
*''[[My Own True Love]]'' - 1994 ([[HarperCollins]])
*''[[Nothing Else Matters]]'' - 1995 ([[HarperCollins]])
*''[[On A Long Ago Night]]'' - 2000 ([[Avon]])
*''[[One Of These Nights]]'' - 1997 ([[HarperCollins]])
*''[[Partners]]'' - 2007 ([[Ace Charter]])
*''[[The Price Of Innocence|Price Of Innocence]]'' - 1999 ([[Avon]])
*''[[The Price Of Passion|Price Of Passion]]'' - 2001 ([[Avon]])
*''[[Primal Desires]]'' - 2007 ([[Pocket Books]])
*''[[Primal Heat - Susan Sizemore|Primal Heat]]'' - 2007 ([[Pocket Books]])
*''[[Scandalous Miranda]]'' - 2005 ([[Avon]])
*''[[Stranger By Her Side]]'' - 1997 ([[Silhouette Intimate Moments]])
*''[[Wings Of The Storm]]'' - 1992 ([[HarperCollins]])

==Novellas==
* "A Touch of Harry" in ''[[The Shadows Of Christmas Past]]'' - 2004 ([[Tandem]])
* "Tempting Fate" in ''[[Moon Fever]]'' - 2008 ([[Pocket Books]])
* unknown in ''[[First Blood]]'' - 2008 ([[Berkley]])
* unknown in ''[[Tall, Dark And Dangerous - Anthology|Tall, Dark And Dangerous]]'' - 1994 ([[HarperCollins]])

== Awards ==
* [[2005 Career Achievement Award Winners|2005 Career Achievement Award Winner]] - [[Romantic Times Magazine]] - Contemporary Paranormal

Scandalous Miranda

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[[Category: 2005 Releases]]
* '''Author''': [[Susan Sizemore]]
* '''Publisher''': [[Avon]]
* '''Year''': 2005
* '''Setting''': England
* '''Amazon Listing''': [http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0060082909/ref=nosim/103-3685024-2000659?n=283155 Scandlous Miranda]

==Book Description==
Andrew MacLeod is his famous family's consummate secret agent. After years of service to Her Majesty, he's ready for early retirement...but find's himself talked into one last assigment: as a guardin angel to the beautiful, reckless and altogether troublesome Lady Miranda Hartwell.

Scandlous Miranda

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Scandalous Miranda

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Susan Sizemore

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{{DEFAULTSORT:Sizemore, Susan}}
[[category:Authors - S]]
[[Category:Award-Winning Authors]]
[[Category:Silhouette Authors]]
[[category:Silhouette Intimate Moments Authors]]
== Books ==
*''[[After The Storm - Susan Sizemore|After The Storm]]'' - 1996 ([[HarperCollins]])
*''[[The Autumn Lord|Autumn Lord, The]]'' - 1996 ([[HarperCollins]])
*''[[Captured Innocence]]'' - 2003 ([[Avon]])
*''[[Companions]]'' - 2007 ([[Ace Charter]])
*''[[Deceptions]]'' - 2007 ([[Ace Charter]])
*''[[Gates Of Hell]]'' 2000 ([[Speculation]])
*''[[Heroes]]'' - 2007 ([[Ace Charter]])
*''[[His Last Best Hope]]'' - 2000 ([[Silhouette Intimate Moments]])
*''[[The Hunt|Hunt, The]]'' - 2007 ([[Ace Charter]])
*''[[I Burn For You]]'' 2003 ([[Pocket Books]])
*''[[I Hunger For You]]'' 2005 ([[Pocket Books]])
*''[[I Thirst For You]]'' 2004 ([[Pocket Books]])
*''[[In My Dreams|In My Dreams]]'' - 1994 ([[HarperCollins]])
*''[[A Kind Of Magic - Susan Sizemore|Kind Of Magic, A]]'' - 2007 ([[Ellora's Cave Publishing]])
*''[[Master Of Darkness]]'' - 2007 ([[Pocket Books]])
*''[[My First Duchess]]'' - 1993 ([[HarperCollins]])
*''[[My Own True Love]]'' - 1994 ([[HarperCollins]])
*''[[Nothing Else Matters]]'' - 1995 ([[HarperCollins]])
*''[[On A Long Ago Night]]'' - 2000 ([[Avon]])
*''[[One Of These Nights]]'' - 1997 ([[HarperCollins]])
*''[[Partners]]'' - 2007 ([[Ace Charter]])
*''[[The Price Of Innocence|Price Of Innocence]]'' - 1999 ([[Avon]])
*''[[The Price Of Passion|Price Of Passion]]'' - 2001 ([[Avon]])
*''[[Primal Desires]]'' - 2007 ([[Pocket Books]])
*''[[Primal Heat - Susan Sizemore|Primal Heat]]'' - 2007 ([[Pocket Books]])
*''[[Scandlous Miranda]]'' - 2005 ([[Avon]])
*''[[Stranger By Her Side]]'' - 1997 ([[Silhouette Intimate Moments]])
*''[[Wings Of The Storm]]'' - 1992 ([[HarperCollins]])

==Novellas==
* "A Touch of Harry" in ''[[The Shadows Of Christmas Past]]'' - 2004 ([[Tandem]])
* "Tempting Fate" in ''[[Moon Fever]]'' - 2008 ([[Pocket Books]])
* unknown in ''[[First Blood]]'' - 2008 ([[Berkley]])
* unknown in ''[[Tall, Dark And Dangerous - Anthology|Tall, Dark And Dangerous]]'' - 1994 ([[HarperCollins]])

== Awards ==
* [[2005 Career Achievement Award Winners|2005 Career Achievement Award Winner]] - [[Romantic Times Magazine]] - Contemporary Paranormal

Susan Sizemore

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{{DEFAULTSORT:Sizemore, Susan}}
[[category:Authors - S]]
[[Category:Award-Winning Authors]]
[[Category:Silhouette Authors]]
[[category:Silhouette Intimate Moments Authors]]
== Books ==
*''[[After The Storm - Susan Sizemore|After The Storm]]'' - 1996 ([[HarperCollins]])
*''[[The Autumn Lord|Autumn Lord, The]]'' - 1996 ([[HarperCollins]])
*''[[Captured Innocence]]'' - 2003 ([[Avon]])
*''[[Companions]]'' - 2007 ([[Ace Charter]])
*''[[Deceptions]]'' - 2007 ([[Ace Charter]])
*''[[Gates Of Hell]]'' 2000 ([[Speculation]])
*''[[Heroes]]'' - 2007 ([[Ace Charter]])
*''[[His Last Best Hope]]'' - 2000 ([[Silhouette Intimate Moments]])
*''[[The Hunt|Hunt, The]]'' - 2007 ([[Ace Charter]])
*''[[I Burn For You]]'' 2003 ([[Pocket Books]])
*''[[I Hunger For You]]'' 2005 ([[Pocket Books]])
*''[[I Thirst For You]]'' 2004 ([[Pocket Books]])
*''[[In My Dreams|In My Dreams]]'' - 1994 ([[HarperCollins]])
*''[[A Kind Of Magic - Susan Sizemore|Kind Of Magic, A]]'' - 2007 ([[Ellora's Cave Publishing]])
*''[[Master Of Darkness]]'' - 2007 ([[Pocket Books]])
*''[[My First Duchess]]'' - 1993 ([[HarperCollins]])
*''[[My Own True Love]]'' - 1994 ([[HarperCollins]])
*''[[Nothing Else Matters]]'' - 1995 ([[HarperCollins]])
*''[[On A Long Ago Night]]'' - 2000 ([[Avon]])
*''[[One Of These Nights]]'' - 1997 ([[HarperCollins]])
*''[[Partners]]'' - 2007 ([[Ace Charter]])
*''[[The Price Of Innocence|Price Of Innocence]]'' - 1999 ([[Avon]])
*''[[The Price Of Passion|Price Of Passion]]'' - 2001 ([[Avon]])
*''[[Primal Desires]]'' - 2007 ([[Pocket Books]])
*''[[Primal Heat - Susan Sizemore|Primal Heat]]'' - 2007 ([[Pocket Books]])
*''[[Scandlous Miranda]]'' - 2005 ([[Avon]])
*''[[Stranger By Her Side]]'' - 1997 ([[Silhouette Intimate Moments]])
*''[[Wings Of The Storm]]'' - 1992 ([[HarperCollins]])

==Novellas==
* "A Touch of Harry" in ''[[The Shadows Of Christmas Past]]'' - 2004 ([[Tandem]])
* "Tempting Fate" in ''[[Moon Fever]]'' - 2008 ([[Pocket Books]])
* unknown in ''[[First Blood]]'' - 2008 ([[Berkley]])
* unknown in ''[[Tall, Dark And Dangerous - Anthology|Tall, Dark And Dangerous]]'' - 1994 ([[HarperCollins]])

==Novellas/Anthologies==
* ''[[Moon Fever]]'' - with [[Maggie Shayne]], [[Lori Handeland]], and [[Caridad Pineiro]], 2007

== Awards ==
* [[2005 Career Achievement Award Winners|2005 Career Achievement Award Winner]] - [[Romantic Times Magazine]] - Contemporary Paranormal

A Kind Of Magic

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{{DEFAULTSORT:Kind Of Magic, A}} [[Category:Books - Same Title]]
[[A Kind Of Magic]] is the title of books by:

* [[A Kind Of Magic - Betty Neels|1]] - [[Betty Neels]], 1991 ([[Mills and Boon Romance By The Numbers|Mills & Boon Romance #3591]])
* [[A Kind Of Magic - Donna Grant|2]] - [[Donna Grant]], 2006 ([[New Concepts Publishing]])
* [[A Kind Of Magic - Laura MacDonald|3]] - [[Laura MacDonald]], 2000 ([[Mills and Boon Medical Romance By The Numbers|Mills & Boon Medical Romance #955]])
* [[A Kind Of Magic - Susan Sizemore|4]] - [[Susan Sizemore]], 2007 ([[Ellora's Cave Publishing]])

After The Storm

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[[Category:Books - Same Title]]
'''After The Storm''' is the title of books by:

* [[After The Storm - Janet Dailey|1]] - [[Janet Dailey]], 1976 ([[Harlequin]] [[Presents]])
* [[After The Storm - Rebecca Flanders|2]] - [[Rebecca Flanders]], 1986 ([[American|Harlequin American Romance]])
* [[After The Storm - Joan Smith|3]] - [[Joan Smith]], 1988 ([[Silhouette Romance By The Numbers|Silhouette Romance #617]])
* [[After The Storm - Susan Sizemore|4]] - [[Susan Sizemore]], 1996 ([[HarperCollins]])

Romance Wiki:Community Discussion

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[[category:Help|Community Discussion]]
'''Welcome''' to a new discussion page. This page is used to discuss the general topics that don't fit on an article or user talk page. You can ask questions, discuss policies, contents, operations and technical issues of RomanceWiki. Discussions will be archived once this page gets too long.

{{Talk Page box}}

'''Note:''' The talk page (reached by clicking "discussion" tab at the top of the page) for this '''Community Discussion''' page will be used to discuss things concerning this page itself, e.g., the layout, content.

==What Should We Call This?==
Yay! We have a place to talk about all those things that don't fit anywhere else. But, what should we call this discussion page? On Wikipedia, the page is called the "Village Pump." That does not sound very "romance-y" and we don't want to just copy them. I have suggested elsewhere that we call it the "Tea Room," or "Coffee House." What are your suggestions?--[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 16:02, 19 September 2007 (PDT) ''P.S. While we get the page set up, is it okay to have discussions about this page here. Once we have it going, such discussions should go to the project talk page.''

:Discussion Parlor? --[[User:Robini|Robini]] 19:49, 19 September 2007 (PDT)

::I like Parlor(y) type names, water cooler is good, Tea Room...like that. Or we could go with a Regency theme with Assembly Room(s).--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 09:56, 22 September 2007 (PDT)

:I vote for "Tea Room". --[[User:DawnBurn|DawnBurn]] 14:29, 25 September 2007 (PDT)

==Announcements?==
We could also use this for announcements although that does not seem right. Anyway, there is a new [[Help:Talk Pages]] with a question on its [[Help talk:Talk Pages]]. --[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 16:25, 19 September 2007 (PDT)

==Awards==
I think we need an award for [[User:Leigh]] and [[User:Amy]]. It is a slow day when they are not around adding/fixing hundreds of books! Thanks! --[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 15:00, 29 September 2007 (PDT)
:I second this nomination (though would also note that [[User:Kay T]] and [[User:DawnBurn]] have been equally awesome. I only glanced at the site while on vacation (apparently there's a rule against wiking while on vacation, though I did get a few interesting comments about my RW t-shirt -- wiki means "quick" in Hawaiian!), so it's just awesome to see all the new stuff and, especially, all the content clean-up. I know that Leigh is aware of the offer for a book bag (and Kay's was finally put in the mail!), so Dawn and Amy, if you're needing a bag, let me know.--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 19:48, 29 October 2007 (PDT)
::Um, I'm highly flattered. I do think Leigh & Amy should get awards for most prolific and most page additions. I believe I serve mostly as a gadfly and doing background organizational stuff which appeals to my anal retentative side without requiring new content from me. If you have extra bags, I would be honored to receive one, but I'd prefer to wait until both Leigh & Amy have been contacted because they are super duper awesome. --[[User:DawnBurn|DawnBurn]] 16:05, 30 October 2007 (PDT)
:::Wow, thanks guys :) I have to say I don't add nearly as many pages as Leigh -- I tend to get on something like adding book descriptions to Superromance pages and go and go and go until I find something else to obsess over. What I really need is wiki rehab! :) --[[User:Amy|Amy]] 18:01, 30 October 2007 (PDT)

::::Chocolate for rehab! We need chocolate! We really do appreciate all of your hard work - fixing or adding. I just know that when I first made the comment, I looked at Recent changes and there were no entries from Amy or Leigh yet that day - a slow day indeed! Sort of scary. Felt like I needed to call you to make sure you were okay. ;) And having people understand RomanceWiki well enough to do the behind the scenes stuff is so great! Thanks --[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 16:07, 1 November 2007 (PDT)

==Category: Books by Publisher ==
I have noticed that several publisher categories have been created and used on book pages for that publisher's books. This is not a bad idea, and I created a mega-category: [[:Category:Books By Publisher]]. We could add a publisher category on the book template. What do you all think? --[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 20:20, 29 October 2007 (PDT)
:Looks like we're both up late (okay, heading off to bed after this -- have to return to the Evil Empire tomorrow). I think, way back when, I might have started to categorize books by publisher, but not categories. I quickly realized that the by publisher designation might be useful, but was also unwieldy. Books by imprint -- which is closer, I think, to what you're doing here -- makes more sense. Nobody seeks "Books by Harlequin", but they do seek "Presents" (or Harlequin Presents). Just as with the author designation, it makes sense to categorize books in this way.

:I am guilty of being inconsistent in this regard (having not found my original method of categorizing books by publisher to be particularly effective). I would agitate for imprint over publisher, but publisher if imprint is unknown/not easily discernible. I am strongly in favor of offering the maximum number of options for finding content. Other thoughts?--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 23:46, 29 October 2007 (PDT)

::Yes, I would probably do book imprints since we have started to use those for Harlequin, but for Red Rose it is probably okay to just do the publisher for now. The other publisher category that had been created was for Samhain, but that was one that had been nominated for deletion, and I think you did delete it this weekend. Maybe Dawn or others will have some thoughts on this. I am not wedded to one way or the other. --[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 13:24, 30 October 2007 (PDT)

:::The reason why the Samhain page was up for deletion was because it was a double, IIRC. I'm not against [[:Category:Books By Publisher]] in that the point of RW is to help people find the books they are looking for. However, I do think [[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]]'s notes are potentially troublesome. In that what category do we use for things like Harlequin versus Blaze (Publisher versus Imprint). I think more people do look by imprint,and if each imprint category was a subset of the overarching publisher, that might be good. But we already have inconsistencies in how the imprints are named or referenced on the book pages. I'm realizing I'm not making a preference either way. Umm... yes to having the mega-category being added, and potentially yes to that being added to the template. But realizing that all previously created pages won't have and that we'll likely get duplicates of categories due to spelling/caps/inclusion of publisher and imprint or just imprint/etc. into those categories. --[[User:DawnBurn|DawnBurn]] 16:03, 30 October 2007 (PDT)

::::Darn you Dawn for practicality! Here's my thinking, for what it's worth (about what you're paying...). When I first started, I was a naive babe in the woods. I think -- and someone will surely correct me as it was a rookie error -- I named a page "Romance". It meant either Harlequin or Silhouette Romance (I can't recall), but it was a stupid page name and I'm crossing my fingers that the more organized of us have fixed it.

::::I do believe that people search more by imprint than publisher (though in the case of Harlequin, both are equally popular). If I were to do it all over, I would create a mega-category for each publisher and then a sub-category for each imprint. That would achieve the goal of making sure that information was accessible no matter how people search (and people search in ways you cannot begin to imagine -- if you're ever bored, watch a co-worker or friend or (best) mother search. It's quite stunning and also educational.

::::So I am advocating for a particular hierarchy, but also realizing that this is a huge time suck (and when it comes to the wiki, we all so many of those, right?). But...light, tunnel, all that. If someone has the energy and time to write a set of rules for categorization, I do have a resource who can help. If not, my feeling is we make this a future project while we put guidelines in place for go-forward content. Thoughts, agreements, disagreements, better ideas (you all have way better ideas than moi)...? --[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]], signed for author by [[User:DawnBurn|DawnBurn]] 16:58, 8 November 2007 (PST)

Shock, gasp! You forgot to sign your post, RomanceWiki. My thought was that this could be added to the template and as you said we could add the publisher category going forward, gradually adding to existing books as needed. What other complications are we not thinking of? One is that a category of "Avon" might contain both books, info about the publisher and authors. Does that matter? I also wonder if there is some "easy" way of doing this. At this point, as you see from the mega-category ([[:Category:Books By Publisher]]), there are both imprint categories, publisher categories, and articles with lists of books by publisher. We could also add the numbered series here if we wanted to. hmmm...--[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 13:22, 2 November 2007 (PDT)

:Replying to Kay's post, but the general thread. I have some LIMITED experience with writing code. I might be able to come up with a rule set, if we are talking about a bot. I think this thread speaks to a general "need" to clean up. There is still the [[Romance]] page, and the naming of the imprints (and their associated by the number pages) is um... random at best. But moving all of those pages (nominally annoying) and then fixing all the redirects (way more annoying) could be more easily done by a use of bot, which would then potentially allow at the same a restructuring of the mega-category to allow more searching. So, it might be of benefit to examine if from a complete overhaul instead of just 'going forward.' I'm willing to use what limited code skills I have toward this and I've considered more than once figuring out enough to write a bot that would auto add the Same Title, Multiple Author books to the Books Alpha pages (which, incidentally, I'm not fond of and are incomplete and hard to use, not that I actually have a better suggestion). Umm... short summary:

:Let's talk (here or in group chat) about how it might be best to restructure from the ground up with the use of a bot for any high repetitive tasks in cleanup.--[[User:DawnBurn|DawnBurn]] 16:58, 8 November 2007 (PST)

::Dawn, I think that someone here might have figured out how to use AWB (from Wikipedia) to do some repetitive tasks, and I have wanted to learn but am afraid. :) One of the problems of thinking or talking about a mega-category and the category tree structure is that there is no good way of seeing that structure on the wiki. That even drives me crazy on the [[RomanceWiki:Category Index]] -- hard to show the structure. At one point (many moons ago) I had dumped all the categories into Excel and then made the structure more obvious. How would you suggest we do a restructure? Should we move this to the category index talk page?--[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 13:43, 9 November 2007 (PST)

== Traffic Analysis ==
Before I go back and read what Kay and Dawn are discussing above (lot of words, little coffee), I'll introduce a new idea for those of you who love to waste time on research. When I have time, I like to focus on building up content related to search phrases used to bring (see recent pages for [[Anne Weale]] and [[Sara Seale]] as examples). I've pulled out the approximately [[Top 20 Search Phrases]] that our readers are using (note: this list is edited to toss out things like "romancewiki"). If you're looking for hours of fun, adding content to these pages is the way to go!--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 10:12, 10 November 2007 (PST)

== Discussion Options ==
To make the discussions about structure and content more efficient, I am wondering if we need to create a list, forum, blog (which, yes, is still high on my list -- just waiting for tech guy to add Kay's category page. I am turning into quite the nag on that).--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 10:12, 10 November 2007 (PST)

==Publishers and Books with Same Name==
I've encountered another problem with creating disambiguation pages - books that have the same name as a publisher or imprint. Some examples:
* [[Splendor]] and [[Temptation]] - imprint pages to which another user has added information about a book (sigh)
* [[Genesis]] (publisher) and [[Genesis (CP)]] (book)
Should we create a disambig page listing both the books and imprint (and if so, do the imprint pages need to be moved to "Title - Imprint" -- as we renamed similar anthology pages "Title - Anthology")? The problem with that, of course, is that a ton of links to that imprint will have be changed. Does anyone have a better solution? --[[User:Amy|Amy]] 19:47, 30 November 2007 (PST)

:Funny you should mention this as I encountered this situation this week. In my case, because there were so few links to deal with, I changed the publisher name to the full title. However, since someone (me, I'm ashamed to admit) started off calling Temptation, Temptation, there are far too many links to change (though, I can ask my husband's assistant to do that if we choose to got that route -- she has the, as they say, bandwidth).

:I admit that I like the idea of adding imprints to the disambiguation pages. Sick I know. I am willing to manage the task of dealing with the Temptation and Splendor links (first) if we agree that this is the optimal solution. I'm going to ping Leigh, Kay, and Dawn to weigh in.--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 21:05, 30 November 2007 (PST)

::Sorry, I have not been around lately! I have to say that I like the solution of having the imprint on the disamb page. Of course, thinking about the consequences of this is rather mind-boggling. If we moved '''Temptation''' the imprint to a page called '''Harlequin Temptation''' the the links would automatically redirect. But if we then wanted to make a disamb page called '''Temptation''' we would have to change all the links (I am not sure if that is even doable without a bot, has your "assistant" figured out bots?). I suppose we could call the disamb page '''Temptation (disambiguation)'''?? Don't really have my wiki-hat on right now. In the short term we could just make the book pages with the author's name, a disamb page called '''Temptation (disambiguation)''' and ?? --[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 15:52, 4 December 2007 (PST)

:::Actually, I'm more than halfway through making the page changes (I had some client downtime this week and am taking full advantage of this brief respite!); however, making the change through the database was option two. In fact, I was in the process of writing the rules for this when I realized I was going to be done with the project before I could turn it over. So I'm thinking that when this done (today or tomorrow), I'll contact Amy and she can her piece, I'll do my piece (moving a few authors), and we can add the '''Temptation''' imprint to the disambiguation page. I like that this makes the disambig concept more complete. I like complete.

:::I'm hoping the Genesis project is much smaller, otherwise, I'll go with making the changes on the database side (or, if you will the "bot" solution).--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 11:25, 5 December 2007 (PST)

::::So I haven't been around (just started a new job and didn't see my talk page), but I just wanted to briefly say that I like the idea of having moved the '''Temptation''' to '''Harlequin Temptation'''. And I do think a bot solution could be done (still on my list of things to do is to play with a bot) since it would be a matter of changing all the pages (mostly) that link there. So, in general, I support fuller Imprint Article Titles (Publisher Imprint). --[[User:DawnBurn|DawnBurn]] 11:35, 7 December 2007 (PST)

:::::Kassia, thanks for taking care of the Temptation thing. Fixing [[Splendor]] and [[Genesis]] will much, much shorter since only a couple pages link to them. In fact, I should get [[Splendor]] done tonight. --[[User:Amy|Amy]] 16:37, 10 December 2007 (PST)

::::::Then there's the final one to look at: Desire. It's on my mental radar rather than active radar since the schedule is much tighter this week.--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 19:50, 11 December 2007 (PST)

==Author Page Help==
Hi, this is Lillith Payne. I'm new here and confused!
I set up a basic page and can open it and print it.
I CAN'T OPEN IT FROM THE AUTHOR LIST!
If anyone can give me simple directions to correct this I'd appreciate it.
My thanks, Lillith
:Hi Lillith. Looks like you edited your user page [[User:Lillith Payne]] with your info but didn't create an actual wiki page. I've gone ahead and started one at [[Lillith Payne]] with the info from your user page and added you to the author list so you should be good to go. --[[User:Amy|Amy]] 15:15, 16 January 2008 (PST)

Hi Amy,
Thank you so much for your help. I found the process completely frustrating not being able to find the fix. When I logged on today I knew I must have found a guardian angel. Consider me your random act of kindness for the week. Lillith
:No problem Lillith, glad to help :) --[[User:Amy|Amy]] 14:44, 17 January 2008 (PST)

== RW Workflow ==
Rather than post this on my personal page (which I'm sure is out there somewhere!), I just thought I'd give a quick update about the big content stuff in progress (especially since Amy and Leigh are going gangbusters!). I'm adding author pages for all the [[Silhouette Romance]] authors and will do the by the numbers pages if someone doesn't beat me to it (I have all the content ready to roll when I get that far in my file). After that, I will go back and add the author pages for [[Harlequin Temptation]] authors. For some bizarre reason -- old age, probably -- I did the by the numbers pages, but never did all the work for each author. Quite a few have already been created by others, so I'll be filling in the gaps there. Phew!

On a go-forward basis, I am building a whole slate of author pages for various category lines. This is going alphabetically by author and should take a good long time. However, we'll have a huge database of romance authors with the best biographical information I can find (and yeah, if you know stuff I don't...). After that, I'll need to come up with a game plan for the rest of the bunch, but since I'm still on the "A" list of authors, I'm not rushing there.

To add some color, especially for older authors without much information, I'm also tracking down at least one halfway decent cover image. If anyone needs me to work on something else, just give a shout-out. Since this current workplan is so huge, I don't mind getting sidetracked a bit.

Also, I'm thinking we need to give some love to writing romance -- anyone know anyone who might be a great resource for this?--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 21:30, 24 January 2008 (PST)

:"''give some love to writing romance''"

:What did you have in mind here RW? Good game plan, I somehow missed this when I was here the other day. --[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 17:46, 2 February 2008 (PST)

::Specifically, I referring to building a good, strong writer resource section. I know we have some bits and pieces here and there, but it would be terrific to have an organized section. It's really the one area where we haven't made inroads, content-wise. It's on my long-term mental plan of things to do, but given my current workplan, it's a seriously future deal.--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 21:09, 6 February 2008 (PST)

:::Yes, we could use some more here. Just for future reference, I have tried to keep up lists and links on the [[Resources]] page and in the [[:category:Romance Resources]]. --[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 21:08, 7 February 2008 (PST)

==Publisher's lines, numbered series==
Leigh has been busy cleaning up the pages that contain lists of books in publisher's lines. Proactively, should we have a section in the [[Help:Style Manual|style manual]] that says something like:

'''Publisher Imprints & Lines''' 
When creating a page for a publisher's imprint, for example, [[Intimate Moments]], it is best to include the name of the publisher in the title, [[Silhouette Intimate Moments]]. This makes it clearer that the article is about an imprint or line and not about a book with that title.

What do we think?? --[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 11:49, 31 January 2008 (PST)
: That sounds like a good idea to me. --[[User:Leigh|Leigh]]
::I am in agreement with Leigh (who has been doing amazing work lately!). As noted above, I am doing loads and loads of author pages (which will be added to wiki as I get through the previous things -- there is something about having a queue that makes me excited), and I am using the publisher pages as guidelines when I create my links.

::If Leigh needs to push some mindless content clean-up my way, just say the word. There are days when I need to put the brain on auto-pilot (especially lately...if only I had the time to do so!). ''And'' the husband's assistant is available for projects -- she's super tech savvy and has done a few wiki projects already. Wiki projects are not highest priority (!@@#$ men!), but tell me if there's something that you can't get to.--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 20:58, 31 January 2008 (PST)

{{done}}
--[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 17:52, 2 February 2008 (PST)
::Kay -- I love the little graphics. They make me smile!--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 20:43, 6 February 2008 (PST)

:::Yes, it is so perky! Hope your temporary dislocation is going okay, and you have found some books to read! even if you weren't dislocated we are in a dry spell, I think. --[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 21:08, 7 February 2008 (PST)

==Author Page Help==
Hi, my name is Cheryl A. Cornell. I set up a new page for myself yesterday, 2/9/08 for my first published novel, Treasure Found through The Wild Rose Press. Thought I followed the directions but I'm not showing up on the author list. If anyone has any ideas what I did wrong or how to fix it I'd appreciate any information you can give. I believed I edited the page but wasn't able to create it. Thanks to anyone who can help, Cheryl 10:35AM 2-10-08

*I'm not sure if there was some database funkiness, or if you actually set up your info on your user page by mistake. User pages are different than author pages, because not every wiki user is an author - I've got a user page frex., but I'm just an editor. Anyways, I went ahead and added a page for you in the actual content of the wiki (user page "space" is different) and filled out the sorting/listing stuff for you. Your page can be found at [[Cheryl A. Cornell]], and I filled out what I could of the Standard wiki template. You can edit it as you see fit, and delete the sections that don't apply to you (like pseudonyms). Also, if you click on the link for your book, I've loaded the books page template onto that page. You can click "edit" and fill out the info for your book, specifically. --[[User:Robini|Robini]] 13:37, 10 February 2008 (PST)

==Thanks for Author Help==
Hi Robini,
Thanks for your help getting this straight and posted. I truly appreciate
you giving me your time and knowledge; as you can tell this is beyond what my brain can compute. It's nice to be in a place where people actually help each other. I appreciate the welcome, Cheryl 2/11/08 9:52AM

== HQ Series Numbering Discussion ==
Hi Teresa, I'm pasting your question below first, then trying to answer the question (I'm still out of town ... and down with a nasty cold, so if I'm incoherent, excuse me):
<blockquote>I have resently downloaded the Presents and Romance by the number pages to have a complete list of the titles. The problem i'm having is that there seems to be 2 seperate and distince collections in both. I don't understand how this is possible. Is there someplace else i can find the alternate lists?</blockquote>
What we're using here at the RomanceWiki is the US numbering system. The lines are also released in other countries, so that might account for differences. Or there is (always) the possibility of user error -- especially when it comes to the very early [[Harlequin Romance]] titles as I had to do a lot of digging to find those titles (and, yeah, I've whined to the Harlequin people about this, but I suspect they don't have a database going back to day one either).

If you're finding differences, I'd appreciate it if you brought them to my attention, or, since [[:User:Leigh|Leigh]] has been uber-terrific about adding content to these sections, her. We definitely want to get it right!--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 17:26, 11 March 2008 (PDT)
: It looks like Harlequin released some Romance and Presents titles to subscribers only in the late 80s/90s. The numbering for these books began again at 1 rather than fitting into the numbers of the retail books, creating a second set of Romance and Presents books whose numbers were significantly lower than the regular ones released at the same time, even though there doesn't seem to be much difference in their covers or content. We probably should add pages for these lists too, but I don't know what they should be called. --[[User:Leigh|Leigh]]

::Okay, I do have those subscription listings in my (extremely long) queue! I am adding the word "Subscription" to the end of the imprint name (ie, Harlequin Romance Subscription By The Numbers, etc). Since it's going to be a while before I upload these lists (I have found -- don't call me a slow learn (g) -- that if I do the author listings ''before'' I do the By The Numbers pages, I can correct for many of the "same title, multiple author" scenarios without having to do a lot of rework), if someone wants to start these listings now, just follow the above syntax so things will line up nicely with the categories. If for some reason it's deemed that a better title would work, just let me know and I'll do a search and replace in my text file (it won't be the first, nor the last!).--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 15:22, 13 March 2008 (PDT)
:::I went ahead and started the pages. I'll add the titles ASAP. --[[User:Leigh|Leigh]]

==Vintage Romance Novels - best places to find==
I collect vintage Gothic Romance and Romantic Suspense novels (and have fallen in love with adding them here) but anyway back to the point - I used to be able to pick these up quite easily at books sales, garage sales, and flea markets. But not anymore they are becoming harder and harder to find. The only place I can usually get them at consistently is at Ebay. I have found another site that is fun that does have a lot of vintage novels on it and I am picking up quite a few of the [[Mystique]] books that I don't have there. It is [http://paperbackswap.com Paper Back Swap] - I've found it useful to list my duplicates. So the question is - what other resources do you guys use?? Anyone else know of other websites that you can get vintage paperbacks on at a reasonable price?? --[[User:Devilbuny|Devilbuny]] 05:10, 20 May 2008 (PDT)
:I don't buy as many vintage romances as I used to, though I have a weakness for 1950's era medical romances -- which I pick up at a vintage bookstore when I get out that way (my schedule is too insane to contemplate trying eBay or other sources). I think there used to be a group called Bookstore Junkies (might want to check Yahoogroups) that was a terrific resource for swaps.

:You might want to set up a page for other readers who are looking for great sources for classic books...I'm sure there are lots of great resources out there!--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 20:11, 20 May 2008 (PDT)

==What style for anthologies?==
Hello! I'm a little confused about which style to use for anthologies. I've seen different styles [[A Gift Of Love - Anthology]], [[Taming Him - Anthology]] (and also creating some by myself :( [[A Holiday Of Love]], [[Upon A Midnight Clear - Anthology]]) and before I change them, I would like to know if there's a prefered style? And if so, could someone please include the style into the book template? And should I treat the novellas like book titels by creating a link (and later an own page)? [[User:Sweety1746|Sweety1746]] 05:56, 1 October 2008 (PDT)

==Lists by last name and first name==
I need some help with this lists by surname and subname and such. I hope I can correctly explain what I mean. So, first let's see if I got all this lists right: 1. There are lists (i.e. [[Authors - C]]), in which the authors are sorted by their last name (surname), but I have to add an author by hand. I use this if I just can recall the last name of an author.
2. Lists, that sort the authors by first names within all authors with the same initial of the last name (i.e. [http://www.romancewiki.com/Category:Authors_-_C]). Here the author appears automatically when I put the right category on the author's page. This list is useful if I can remember an author's first name, but am not sure about the last name (though I can exclude some possibilities).
So what is the line "DEFAULTSORT:Last name, First name" in the author template good for? If I use it, the author will be sorted by the last name in the 2. list, which makes no sense according to the discription on page "Category:Authors By Subname".
And by the way, what is a "subname"? I coudn't find a translation or definition anywhere.[[User:Sweety1746|Sweety1746]] 07:11, 1 October 2008 (PDT)

Romance Wiki:Community Discussion

2008-10-01T13:09:08Z

Sweety1746: deleting second question

The Lord Next Door

2008-10-01T13:04:42Z

Sweety1746: creating book page

[[Category:Historical Romance]][[Category: 2005 Releases]]
* '''Author''': [[Gayle Callen]]
* '''Publisher''': [[Avon]]
* '''Year''': 2005
* '''Setting''': Regency England
* '''Amazon Listing''': [http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0060784113/ref=nosim/103-3685024-2000659?n=283155 The Lord Next Door]

==Book Description==
When Victoria Shelby, her sisters and her mother are suddenly left penniless, Victoria must immediately take action to avoid financial disaster. Remembering the serving boy next door, she pursues him in hopes of making a quick match. But this serving boy is really David Thurlow, the earl's son, and the match he has in mind is not quick at all...

Romance Wiki:Community Discussion

2008-10-01T12:56:25Z

Sweety1746: new questions

[[category:Help|Community Discussion]]
'''Welcome''' to a new discussion page. This page is used to discuss the general topics that don't fit on an article or user talk page. You can ask questions, discuss policies, contents, operations and technical issues of RomanceWiki. Discussions will be archived once this page gets too long.

{{Talk Page box}}

'''Note:''' The talk page (reached by clicking "discussion" tab at the top of the page) for this '''Community Discussion''' page will be used to discuss things concerning this page itself, e.g., the layout, content.

==What Should We Call This?==
Yay! We have a place to talk about all those things that don't fit anywhere else. But, what should we call this discussion page? On Wikipedia, the page is called the "Village Pump." That does not sound very "romance-y" and we don't want to just copy them. I have suggested elsewhere that we call it the "Tea Room," or "Coffee House." What are your suggestions?--[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 16:02, 19 September 2007 (PDT) ''P.S. While we get the page set up, is it okay to have discussions about this page here. Once we have it going, such discussions should go to the project talk page.''

:Discussion Parlor? --[[User:Robini|Robini]] 19:49, 19 September 2007 (PDT)

::I like Parlor(y) type names, water cooler is good, Tea Room...like that. Or we could go with a Regency theme with Assembly Room(s).--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 09:56, 22 September 2007 (PDT)

:I vote for "Tea Room". --[[User:DawnBurn|DawnBurn]] 14:29, 25 September 2007 (PDT)

==Announcements?==
We could also use this for announcements although that does not seem right. Anyway, there is a new [[Help:Talk Pages]] with a question on its [[Help talk:Talk Pages]]. --[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 16:25, 19 September 2007 (PDT)

==Awards==
I think we need an award for [[User:Leigh]] and [[User:Amy]]. It is a slow day when they are not around adding/fixing hundreds of books! Thanks! --[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 15:00, 29 September 2007 (PDT)
:I second this nomination (though would also note that [[User:Kay T]] and [[User:DawnBurn]] have been equally awesome. I only glanced at the site while on vacation (apparently there's a rule against wiking while on vacation, though I did get a few interesting comments about my RW t-shirt -- wiki means "quick" in Hawaiian!), so it's just awesome to see all the new stuff and, especially, all the content clean-up. I know that Leigh is aware of the offer for a book bag (and Kay's was finally put in the mail!), so Dawn and Amy, if you're needing a bag, let me know.--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 19:48, 29 October 2007 (PDT)
::Um, I'm highly flattered. I do think Leigh & Amy should get awards for most prolific and most page additions. I believe I serve mostly as a gadfly and doing background organizational stuff which appeals to my anal retentative side without requiring new content from me. If you have extra bags, I would be honored to receive one, but I'd prefer to wait until both Leigh & Amy have been contacted because they are super duper awesome. --[[User:DawnBurn|DawnBurn]] 16:05, 30 October 2007 (PDT)
:::Wow, thanks guys :) I have to say I don't add nearly as many pages as Leigh -- I tend to get on something like adding book descriptions to Superromance pages and go and go and go until I find something else to obsess over. What I really need is wiki rehab! :) --[[User:Amy|Amy]] 18:01, 30 October 2007 (PDT)

::::Chocolate for rehab! We need chocolate! We really do appreciate all of your hard work - fixing or adding. I just know that when I first made the comment, I looked at Recent changes and there were no entries from Amy or Leigh yet that day - a slow day indeed! Sort of scary. Felt like I needed to call you to make sure you were okay. ;) And having people understand RomanceWiki well enough to do the behind the scenes stuff is so great! Thanks --[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 16:07, 1 November 2007 (PDT)

==Category: Books by Publisher ==
I have noticed that several publisher categories have been created and used on book pages for that publisher's books. This is not a bad idea, and I created a mega-category: [[:Category:Books By Publisher]]. We could add a publisher category on the book template. What do you all think? --[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 20:20, 29 October 2007 (PDT)
:Looks like we're both up late (okay, heading off to bed after this -- have to return to the Evil Empire tomorrow). I think, way back when, I might have started to categorize books by publisher, but not categories. I quickly realized that the by publisher designation might be useful, but was also unwieldy. Books by imprint -- which is closer, I think, to what you're doing here -- makes more sense. Nobody seeks "Books by Harlequin", but they do seek "Presents" (or Harlequin Presents). Just as with the author designation, it makes sense to categorize books in this way.

:I am guilty of being inconsistent in this regard (having not found my original method of categorizing books by publisher to be particularly effective). I would agitate for imprint over publisher, but publisher if imprint is unknown/not easily discernible. I am strongly in favor of offering the maximum number of options for finding content. Other thoughts?--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 23:46, 29 October 2007 (PDT)

::Yes, I would probably do book imprints since we have started to use those for Harlequin, but for Red Rose it is probably okay to just do the publisher for now. The other publisher category that had been created was for Samhain, but that was one that had been nominated for deletion, and I think you did delete it this weekend. Maybe Dawn or others will have some thoughts on this. I am not wedded to one way or the other. --[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 13:24, 30 October 2007 (PDT)

:::The reason why the Samhain page was up for deletion was because it was a double, IIRC. I'm not against [[:Category:Books By Publisher]] in that the point of RW is to help people find the books they are looking for. However, I do think [[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]]'s notes are potentially troublesome. In that what category do we use for things like Harlequin versus Blaze (Publisher versus Imprint). I think more people do look by imprint,and if each imprint category was a subset of the overarching publisher, that might be good. But we already have inconsistencies in how the imprints are named or referenced on the book pages. I'm realizing I'm not making a preference either way. Umm... yes to having the mega-category being added, and potentially yes to that being added to the template. But realizing that all previously created pages won't have and that we'll likely get duplicates of categories due to spelling/caps/inclusion of publisher and imprint or just imprint/etc. into those categories. --[[User:DawnBurn|DawnBurn]] 16:03, 30 October 2007 (PDT)

::::Darn you Dawn for practicality! Here's my thinking, for what it's worth (about what you're paying...). When I first started, I was a naive babe in the woods. I think -- and someone will surely correct me as it was a rookie error -- I named a page "Romance". It meant either Harlequin or Silhouette Romance (I can't recall), but it was a stupid page name and I'm crossing my fingers that the more organized of us have fixed it.

::::I do believe that people search more by imprint than publisher (though in the case of Harlequin, both are equally popular). If I were to do it all over, I would create a mega-category for each publisher and then a sub-category for each imprint. That would achieve the goal of making sure that information was accessible no matter how people search (and people search in ways you cannot begin to imagine -- if you're ever bored, watch a co-worker or friend or (best) mother search. It's quite stunning and also educational.

::::So I am advocating for a particular hierarchy, but also realizing that this is a huge time suck (and when it comes to the wiki, we all so many of those, right?). But...light, tunnel, all that. If someone has the energy and time to write a set of rules for categorization, I do have a resource who can help. If not, my feeling is we make this a future project while we put guidelines in place for go-forward content. Thoughts, agreements, disagreements, better ideas (you all have way better ideas than moi)...? --[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]], signed for author by [[User:DawnBurn|DawnBurn]] 16:58, 8 November 2007 (PST)

Shock, gasp! You forgot to sign your post, RomanceWiki. My thought was that this could be added to the template and as you said we could add the publisher category going forward, gradually adding to existing books as needed. What other complications are we not thinking of? One is that a category of "Avon" might contain both books, info about the publisher and authors. Does that matter? I also wonder if there is some "easy" way of doing this. At this point, as you see from the mega-category ([[:Category:Books By Publisher]]), there are both imprint categories, publisher categories, and articles with lists of books by publisher. We could also add the numbered series here if we wanted to. hmmm...--[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 13:22, 2 November 2007 (PDT)

:Replying to Kay's post, but the general thread. I have some LIMITED experience with writing code. I might be able to come up with a rule set, if we are talking about a bot. I think this thread speaks to a general "need" to clean up. There is still the [[Romance]] page, and the naming of the imprints (and their associated by the number pages) is um... random at best. But moving all of those pages (nominally annoying) and then fixing all the redirects (way more annoying) could be more easily done by a use of bot, which would then potentially allow at the same a restructuring of the mega-category to allow more searching. So, it might be of benefit to examine if from a complete overhaul instead of just 'going forward.' I'm willing to use what limited code skills I have toward this and I've considered more than once figuring out enough to write a bot that would auto add the Same Title, Multiple Author books to the Books Alpha pages (which, incidentally, I'm not fond of and are incomplete and hard to use, not that I actually have a better suggestion). Umm... short summary:

:Let's talk (here or in group chat) about how it might be best to restructure from the ground up with the use of a bot for any high repetitive tasks in cleanup.--[[User:DawnBurn|DawnBurn]] 16:58, 8 November 2007 (PST)

::Dawn, I think that someone here might have figured out how to use AWB (from Wikipedia) to do some repetitive tasks, and I have wanted to learn but am afraid. :) One of the problems of thinking or talking about a mega-category and the category tree structure is that there is no good way of seeing that structure on the wiki. That even drives me crazy on the [[RomanceWiki:Category Index]] -- hard to show the structure. At one point (many moons ago) I had dumped all the categories into Excel and then made the structure more obvious. How would you suggest we do a restructure? Should we move this to the category index talk page?--[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 13:43, 9 November 2007 (PST)

== Traffic Analysis ==
Before I go back and read what Kay and Dawn are discussing above (lot of words, little coffee), I'll introduce a new idea for those of you who love to waste time on research. When I have time, I like to focus on building up content related to search phrases used to bring (see recent pages for [[Anne Weale]] and [[Sara Seale]] as examples). I've pulled out the approximately [[Top 20 Search Phrases]] that our readers are using (note: this list is edited to toss out things like "romancewiki"). If you're looking for hours of fun, adding content to these pages is the way to go!--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 10:12, 10 November 2007 (PST)

== Discussion Options ==
To make the discussions about structure and content more efficient, I am wondering if we need to create a list, forum, blog (which, yes, is still high on my list -- just waiting for tech guy to add Kay's category page. I am turning into quite the nag on that).--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 10:12, 10 November 2007 (PST)

==Publishers and Books with Same Name==
I've encountered another problem with creating disambiguation pages - books that have the same name as a publisher or imprint. Some examples:
* [[Splendor]] and [[Temptation]] - imprint pages to which another user has added information about a book (sigh)
* [[Genesis]] (publisher) and [[Genesis (CP)]] (book)
Should we create a disambig page listing both the books and imprint (and if so, do the imprint pages need to be moved to "Title - Imprint" -- as we renamed similar anthology pages "Title - Anthology")? The problem with that, of course, is that a ton of links to that imprint will have be changed. Does anyone have a better solution? --[[User:Amy|Amy]] 19:47, 30 November 2007 (PST)

:Funny you should mention this as I encountered this situation this week. In my case, because there were so few links to deal with, I changed the publisher name to the full title. However, since someone (me, I'm ashamed to admit) started off calling Temptation, Temptation, there are far too many links to change (though, I can ask my husband's assistant to do that if we choose to got that route -- she has the, as they say, bandwidth).

:I admit that I like the idea of adding imprints to the disambiguation pages. Sick I know. I am willing to manage the task of dealing with the Temptation and Splendor links (first) if we agree that this is the optimal solution. I'm going to ping Leigh, Kay, and Dawn to weigh in.--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 21:05, 30 November 2007 (PST)

::Sorry, I have not been around lately! I have to say that I like the solution of having the imprint on the disamb page. Of course, thinking about the consequences of this is rather mind-boggling. If we moved '''Temptation''' the imprint to a page called '''Harlequin Temptation''' the the links would automatically redirect. But if we then wanted to make a disamb page called '''Temptation''' we would have to change all the links (I am not sure if that is even doable without a bot, has your "assistant" figured out bots?). I suppose we could call the disamb page '''Temptation (disambiguation)'''?? Don't really have my wiki-hat on right now. In the short term we could just make the book pages with the author's name, a disamb page called '''Temptation (disambiguation)''' and ?? --[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 15:52, 4 December 2007 (PST)

:::Actually, I'm more than halfway through making the page changes (I had some client downtime this week and am taking full advantage of this brief respite!); however, making the change through the database was option two. In fact, I was in the process of writing the rules for this when I realized I was going to be done with the project before I could turn it over. So I'm thinking that when this done (today or tomorrow), I'll contact Amy and she can her piece, I'll do my piece (moving a few authors), and we can add the '''Temptation''' imprint to the disambiguation page. I like that this makes the disambig concept more complete. I like complete.

:::I'm hoping the Genesis project is much smaller, otherwise, I'll go with making the changes on the database side (or, if you will the "bot" solution).--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 11:25, 5 December 2007 (PST)

::::So I haven't been around (just started a new job and didn't see my talk page), but I just wanted to briefly say that I like the idea of having moved the '''Temptation''' to '''Harlequin Temptation'''. And I do think a bot solution could be done (still on my list of things to do is to play with a bot) since it would be a matter of changing all the pages (mostly) that link there. So, in general, I support fuller Imprint Article Titles (Publisher Imprint). --[[User:DawnBurn|DawnBurn]] 11:35, 7 December 2007 (PST)

:::::Kassia, thanks for taking care of the Temptation thing. Fixing [[Splendor]] and [[Genesis]] will much, much shorter since only a couple pages link to them. In fact, I should get [[Splendor]] done tonight. --[[User:Amy|Amy]] 16:37, 10 December 2007 (PST)

::::::Then there's the final one to look at: Desire. It's on my mental radar rather than active radar since the schedule is much tighter this week.--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 19:50, 11 December 2007 (PST)

==Author Page Help==
Hi, this is Lillith Payne. I'm new here and confused!
I set up a basic page and can open it and print it.
I CAN'T OPEN IT FROM THE AUTHOR LIST!
If anyone can give me simple directions to correct this I'd appreciate it.
My thanks, Lillith
:Hi Lillith. Looks like you edited your user page [[User:Lillith Payne]] with your info but didn't create an actual wiki page. I've gone ahead and started one at [[Lillith Payne]] with the info from your user page and added you to the author list so you should be good to go. --[[User:Amy|Amy]] 15:15, 16 January 2008 (PST)

Hi Amy,
Thank you so much for your help. I found the process completely frustrating not being able to find the fix. When I logged on today I knew I must have found a guardian angel. Consider me your random act of kindness for the week. Lillith
:No problem Lillith, glad to help :) --[[User:Amy|Amy]] 14:44, 17 January 2008 (PST)

== RW Workflow ==
Rather than post this on my personal page (which I'm sure is out there somewhere!), I just thought I'd give a quick update about the big content stuff in progress (especially since Amy and Leigh are going gangbusters!). I'm adding author pages for all the [[Silhouette Romance]] authors and will do the by the numbers pages if someone doesn't beat me to it (I have all the content ready to roll when I get that far in my file). After that, I will go back and add the author pages for [[Harlequin Temptation]] authors. For some bizarre reason -- old age, probably -- I did the by the numbers pages, but never did all the work for each author. Quite a few have already been created by others, so I'll be filling in the gaps there. Phew!

On a go-forward basis, I am building a whole slate of author pages for various category lines. This is going alphabetically by author and should take a good long time. However, we'll have a huge database of romance authors with the best biographical information I can find (and yeah, if you know stuff I don't...). After that, I'll need to come up with a game plan for the rest of the bunch, but since I'm still on the "A" list of authors, I'm not rushing there.

To add some color, especially for older authors without much information, I'm also tracking down at least one halfway decent cover image. If anyone needs me to work on something else, just give a shout-out. Since this current workplan is so huge, I don't mind getting sidetracked a bit.

Also, I'm thinking we need to give some love to writing romance -- anyone know anyone who might be a great resource for this?--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 21:30, 24 January 2008 (PST)

:"''give some love to writing romance''"

:What did you have in mind here RW? Good game plan, I somehow missed this when I was here the other day. --[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 17:46, 2 February 2008 (PST)

::Specifically, I referring to building a good, strong writer resource section. I know we have some bits and pieces here and there, but it would be terrific to have an organized section. It's really the one area where we haven't made inroads, content-wise. It's on my long-term mental plan of things to do, but given my current workplan, it's a seriously future deal.--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 21:09, 6 February 2008 (PST)

:::Yes, we could use some more here. Just for future reference, I have tried to keep up lists and links on the [[Resources]] page and in the [[:category:Romance Resources]]. --[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 21:08, 7 February 2008 (PST)

==Publisher's lines, numbered series==
Leigh has been busy cleaning up the pages that contain lists of books in publisher's lines. Proactively, should we have a section in the [[Help:Style Manual|style manual]] that says something like:

'''Publisher Imprints & Lines''' 
When creating a page for a publisher's imprint, for example, [[Intimate Moments]], it is best to include the name of the publisher in the title, [[Silhouette Intimate Moments]]. This makes it clearer that the article is about an imprint or line and not about a book with that title.

What do we think?? --[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 11:49, 31 January 2008 (PST)
: That sounds like a good idea to me. --[[User:Leigh|Leigh]]
::I am in agreement with Leigh (who has been doing amazing work lately!). As noted above, I am doing loads and loads of author pages (which will be added to wiki as I get through the previous things -- there is something about having a queue that makes me excited), and I am using the publisher pages as guidelines when I create my links.

::If Leigh needs to push some mindless content clean-up my way, just say the word. There are days when I need to put the brain on auto-pilot (especially lately...if only I had the time to do so!). ''And'' the husband's assistant is available for projects -- she's super tech savvy and has done a few wiki projects already. Wiki projects are not highest priority (!@@#$ men!), but tell me if there's something that you can't get to.--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 20:58, 31 January 2008 (PST)

{{done}}
--[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 17:52, 2 February 2008 (PST)
::Kay -- I love the little graphics. They make me smile!--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 20:43, 6 February 2008 (PST)

:::Yes, it is so perky! Hope your temporary dislocation is going okay, and you have found some books to read! even if you weren't dislocated we are in a dry spell, I think. --[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 21:08, 7 February 2008 (PST)

==Author Page Help==
Hi, my name is Cheryl A. Cornell. I set up a new page for myself yesterday, 2/9/08 for my first published novel, Treasure Found through The Wild Rose Press. Thought I followed the directions but I'm not showing up on the author list. If anyone has any ideas what I did wrong or how to fix it I'd appreciate any information you can give. I believed I edited the page but wasn't able to create it. Thanks to anyone who can help, Cheryl 10:35AM 2-10-08

*I'm not sure if there was some database funkiness, or if you actually set up your info on your user page by mistake. User pages are different than author pages, because not every wiki user is an author - I've got a user page frex., but I'm just an editor. Anyways, I went ahead and added a page for you in the actual content of the wiki (user page "space" is different) and filled out the sorting/listing stuff for you. Your page can be found at [[Cheryl A. Cornell]], and I filled out what I could of the Standard wiki template. You can edit it as you see fit, and delete the sections that don't apply to you (like pseudonyms). Also, if you click on the link for your book, I've loaded the books page template onto that page. You can click "edit" and fill out the info for your book, specifically. --[[User:Robini|Robini]] 13:37, 10 February 2008 (PST)

==Thanks for Author Help==
Hi Robini,
Thanks for your help getting this straight and posted. I truly appreciate
you giving me your time and knowledge; as you can tell this is beyond what my brain can compute. It's nice to be in a place where people actually help each other. I appreciate the welcome, Cheryl 2/11/08 9:52AM

== HQ Series Numbering Discussion ==
Hi Teresa, I'm pasting your question below first, then trying to answer the question (I'm still out of town ... and down with a nasty cold, so if I'm incoherent, excuse me):
<blockquote>I have resently downloaded the Presents and Romance by the number pages to have a complete list of the titles. The problem i'm having is that there seems to be 2 seperate and distince collections in both. I don't understand how this is possible. Is there someplace else i can find the alternate lists?</blockquote>
What we're using here at the RomanceWiki is the US numbering system. The lines are also released in other countries, so that might account for differences. Or there is (always) the possibility of user error -- especially when it comes to the very early [[Harlequin Romance]] titles as I had to do a lot of digging to find those titles (and, yeah, I've whined to the Harlequin people about this, but I suspect they don't have a database going back to day one either).

If you're finding differences, I'd appreciate it if you brought them to my attention, or, since [[:User:Leigh|Leigh]] has been uber-terrific about adding content to these sections, her. We definitely want to get it right!--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 17:26, 11 March 2008 (PDT)
: It looks like Harlequin released some Romance and Presents titles to subscribers only in the late 80s/90s. The numbering for these books began again at 1 rather than fitting into the numbers of the retail books, creating a second set of Romance and Presents books whose numbers were significantly lower than the regular ones released at the same time, even though there doesn't seem to be much difference in their covers or content. We probably should add pages for these lists too, but I don't know what they should be called. --[[User:Leigh|Leigh]]

::Okay, I do have those subscription listings in my (extremely long) queue! I am adding the word "Subscription" to the end of the imprint name (ie, Harlequin Romance Subscription By The Numbers, etc). Since it's going to be a while before I upload these lists (I have found -- don't call me a slow learn (g) -- that if I do the author listings ''before'' I do the By The Numbers pages, I can correct for many of the "same title, multiple author" scenarios without having to do a lot of rework), if someone wants to start these listings now, just follow the above syntax so things will line up nicely with the categories. If for some reason it's deemed that a better title would work, just let me know and I'll do a search and replace in my text file (it won't be the first, nor the last!).--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 15:22, 13 March 2008 (PDT)
:::I went ahead and started the pages. I'll add the titles ASAP. --[[User:Leigh|Leigh]]

==Vintage Romance Novels - best places to find==
I collect vintage Gothic Romance and Romantic Suspense novels (and have fallen in love with adding them here) but anyway back to the point - I used to be able to pick these up quite easily at books sales, garage sales, and flea markets. But not anymore they are becoming harder and harder to find. The only place I can usually get them at consistently is at Ebay. I have found another site that is fun that does have a lot of vintage novels on it and I am picking up quite a few of the [[Mystique]] books that I don't have there. It is [http://paperbackswap.com Paper Back Swap] - I've found it useful to list my duplicates. So the question is - what other resources do you guys use?? Anyone else know of other websites that you can get vintage paperbacks on at a reasonable price?? --[[User:Devilbuny|Devilbuny]] 05:10, 20 May 2008 (PDT)
:I don't buy as many vintage romances as I used to, though I have a weakness for 1950's era medical romances -- which I pick up at a vintage bookstore when I get out that way (my schedule is too insane to contemplate trying eBay or other sources). I think there used to be a group called Bookstore Junkies (might want to check Yahoogroups) that was a terrific resource for swaps.

:You might want to set up a page for other readers who are looking for great sources for classic books...I'm sure there are lots of great resources out there!--[[User:Romancewiki|Romancewiki]] 20:11, 20 May 2008 (PDT)

==What style for anthologies?==
Hello! I'm a little confused about which style to use for anthologies. I've seen different styles [[A Gift Of Love - Anthology]], [[Taming Him - Anthology]] (and also creating some by myself :( [[A Holiday Of Love]], [[Upon A Midnight Clear - Anthology]]) and before I change them, I would like to know if there's a prefered style? And if so, could someone please include the style into the book template? And should I treat the novellas like book titels by creating a link (and later an own page)? [[User:Sweety1746|Sweety1746]] 05:56, 1 October 2008 (PDT)

==Listing in Category Authors by Surname==
And my second "question" concers the line "{{DEFAULTSORT:Last name, First name}}" in the author template. If I use it, the author is listed by its last name in category:authors - * . If I don't use it, the author is listed by its first name in the same category. So which way is correct? I mean, you didn't include that line for nothing in the template and if I want to search an author by its last name, I don't need a listing by first names within the category. But if the listing by last names is your aim, I would suggest to list them "last name, first name", if this is doable. [[User:Sweety1746|Sweety1746]] 05:56, 1 October 2008 (PDT)

Linda Castillo

2008-10-01T12:37:21Z

Sweety1746:

{{DEFAULTSORT:Castillo, Linda}}
[[Category:Authors - C]] [[Category:Harlequin Intrigue Authors]] [[category:Silhouette Intimate Moments Authors]]
As an author for the Harlequin [[Intrigue]] imprint, '''Linda Castillo''' has published six novels. She is was nominated for the [[RITA]] for her debut novel ''[[Remember The Night]]'' and is a winner of the [[HOLT Medallion Award]].

== Books ==
* ''[[A Baby Before Dawn]]'' - July 2007 [[Harlequin Intrigue By The Numbers|Harlequin Intrigue # 1000]]
* ''[[Operation: Midnight Cowboy]]'' - January 2007 [[Harlequin Intrigue By The Numbers|Harlequin Intrigue # 963]]
* ''[[Operation: Midnight Escape]]'' - December 2005 [[Harlequin Intrigue By The Numbers|Harlequin Intrigue # 890]]
* ''[[Operation: Midnight Guardian]]'' - May 2006 [[Harlequin Intrigue By The Numbers|Harlequin Intrigue # 920]]
* ''[[Operation: Midnight Rendezvous]]'' - September 2006 [[Harlequin Intrigue By The Numbers|Harlequin Intrigue # 940]]
* ''[[Operation: Midnight Tango]]'' - September 2005 [[Harlequin Intrigue By The Numbers|Harlequin Intrigue # 871]]

== On the Web ==
* [http://www.lindacastillo.com/ Official Website]

Gayle Callen

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[[Category:Authors - C]]

==Books==
*''[[The Beauty And The Spy|Beauty And The Spy, The]]'' - 2004 ([[Avon]])
*''[[The Darkest Knight|Darkest Knight, The]]''
*''[[The Duke In Disguise|Duke In Disguise, The]]'' - 2006 ([[Avon]])
*''[[His Betrothal]]''- 2001 ([[Avon]])
*''[[His Bride]]'' - 2002 ([[Avon]])
*''[[His Scandal]]'' - 2002 ([[Avon]])
*''[[A Knight's Vow - Gayle Callen|Knight's Vow, A]]'' - 2000 ([[Avon]])
*''[[The Lord Next Door|Lord Next Door, The]]'' - 2005 ([[Avon]])
*''[[My Lady's Guardian]]'' ([[Avon]])
*''[[Never Dare A Duke]]'' - 2009 ([[Avon]])
*''[[Never Trust A Scoundrel]]'' 2008 ([[Avon]]''
*''[[No Ordinary Groom]]'' - 2004 ([[Avon]])
*''[[The Viscount In Her Bedroom|Viscount In Her Bedroom]]'' - 2007 ([[Avon]])
*''[[A Woman's Innocence|Woman's Innocence, A]]'' - 2005 ([[Avon]])

==Novellas==
* unknown in ''[[Hot And Bothered]]'' - 2001 ([[St. Martin's]])

Gayle Callen

2008-10-01T11:53:05Z

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{{DEFAULTSORT:Callen, Gayle}}
[[Category:Authors - C]]

==Books==
*''[[The Beauty And The Spy|Beauty And The Spy, The]]'' - 2004 ([[Avon]])
*''[[The Darkest Knight|Darkest Knight, The]]''
*''[[The Duke In Disguise|Duke In Disguise, The]]'' - 2006 ([[Avon]])
*''[[His Betrothal]]''- 2001 ([[Avon]])
*''[[His Bride]]'' - 2002 ([[Avon]])
*''[[His Scandal]]'' - 2002 ([[Avon]])
*''[[A Knight's Vow - Gayle Callen|Knight's Vow, A]]'' - 2000 ([[Avon]])
*''[[The Lord Next Door|Lord Next Door, The]]'' - 2005 ([[Avon]])
*''[[My Lady's Guardian]]'' ([[Avon]])
*''[[Never Dare A Duke]]'' - 2009 ([[Avon]])
*''[[Never Trust A Scoundrel]]'' 2008 ([[Avon]]''
*''[[No Ordinary Groom]]'' - 2004 ([[Avon]])
*''[[The Viscount In Her Bedroom|Viscount In Her Bedroom]]'' - 2007 ([[Avon]])
*''[[A Woman's Innocence|Woman's Innocence, A]]'' - 2005 ([[Avon]])

==Novellas==
* unknown in ''[[Hot And Bothered]]'' - 2001 ([[St. Martin's]])

A Knight's Vow

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[[Category:Books - Same Title]]
'''A Knight's Vow''' is the title of books by:

* [[A Knight's Vow - Gayle Callen|1]] - [[Gayle Callen]], 2000 ([[Avon]])
* [[A Knight's Vow - Lindsay Townsend|2]] - [[Lindsay Townsend]], 2008 ([[Kensington]])

'''A Knight's Vow''' is the title of anthologies by:
* [[A Knight's Vow - Anthology|1]] - [[Jove]], 2001 ([[Lynn Kurland]], [[Patricia Potter]], [[Deborah Simmons]], [[Glynnis Campbell]])

Lorraine Heath

2008-10-01T11:26:54Z

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[[Category:Authors - H]]
[[Category:Award-Winning Authors]]
[[Category:RITA Winners|Heath]]

== Books ==
*''[[Always To Remember]]'' - 1996 ([[Jove]])
*''[[As An Earl Desires]]'' ([[Avon]])
*''[[A Matter Of Temptation|Matter Of Temptation, A]]'' ([[Avon]])

== Honors/Awards ==
* [[1996 Career Achievement Award Winners|1996 Career Achievement Award Winner]] - [[Romantic Times Magazine]] - Americana Historical Romance
* [[1997 RITA® Winners|1997 RITA® Winner]] in the [[RITA®: Best Short Historical Romance|Short Historical]] category with [[Always To Remember|''Always to Remember'']]

== On the Web ==
* [http://www.lorraineheath.com/ Lorraine Heath]

Always To Remember

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[[Category:RITA Winning Title]] [[Category:Award-Winning Romance]] [[Category:1996 Releases]] [[Category:Civil War]]
* '''Author''': [[Lorraine Heath]]
* '''Publisher''': [[Jove]]
* '''Year''': 1996
* '''Setting''': Texas, Civil War era
* '''Amazon Listing''' - [http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0515118044/ref=nosim/103-3685024-2000659?n=283155 Always To Remember] - Out-of-Print

==Book Description==
Clayton Holland, drafted into the Confederate Army, is sent to prison for refusing to bear arms during the conflict. When he returns home to Texas, he's shunned by the townspeople - except for Meg Warner who wants him to build a memorial to the town's war heroes, including her late husband.

== Awards/Nominations ==
* [[1997 RITA® Winners|1997 RITA®]] in the [[RITA®: Best Short Historical Romance|Short Historical]] category.
* [[1996 RRA Awards Winners|1996 RRA Awards Nominee]] - Romance with Best Sweet Love Scene
* [[1996 RRA Awards Winners|1996 RRA Awards Nominee]] - Best All-Around Romance
* [[1996 RRA Awards Winners|1996 RRA Awards Nominee]] - Best Historical Single Title Romance

Always To Remember

2008-10-01T11:21:20Z

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[[Category:RITA Winning Title]] [[Category:Award-Winning Romance]] [[Category:1996 Releases]] [[Category:Civil War]]
* '''Author''': [[Lorraine Heath]]
* '''Publisher''': [[Jove]]
* '''Year''': 1996
* '''Setting''': Texas, Civil War era
* '''Amazon Listing''' - [http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0515118044/ref=nosim/103-3685024-2000659?n=283155 ''Always To Remember] - Out-of-Print

Clayton Holland, drafted into the Confederate Army, is sent to prison for refusing to bear arms during the conflict. When he returns home to Texas, he's shunned by the townspeople -- except for Meg Warner who wants him to build a memorial to the town's war heroes, including her late husband.

== Awards/Nominations ==
* [[1997 RITA® Winners|1997 RITA®]] in the [[RITA®: Best Short Historical Romance|Short Historical]] category.
* [[1996 RRA Awards Winners|1996 RRA Awards Nominee]] - Romance with Best Sweet Love Scene
* [[1996 RRA Awards Winners|1996 RRA Awards Nominee]] - Best All-Around Romance
* [[1996 RRA Awards Winners|1996 RRA Awards Nominee]] - Best Historical Single Title Romance

Linda Needham

2008-10-01T11:19:40Z

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==Books==

* ''[[Marry The Man Today]]'' ([[Avon]])