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Kay T: /* Page Titles for Anthologies */

2007-10-22T02:51:06Z

Page Titles for Anthologies

Amy: Page Titles for Anthologies

2007-10-22T01:51:52Z

Page Titles for Anthologies

DawnBurn: /* Creating Page & Moving Page */

2007-10-05T23:30:09Z

Creating Page & Moving Page

Kay T: /* Creating Page & Moving Page */ edited, rearranged, looks good

2007-10-05T02:41:11Z

Creating Page & Moving Page: edited, rearranged, looks good

DawnBurn: /* Creating Page & Moving Page */ first attempt made.

2007-10-04T23:57:16Z

Creating Page & Moving Page: first attempt made.

Kay T: /* Creating Page & Moving Page */ hmm, not TOO complicated

2007-09-28T17:23:33Z

Creating Page & Moving Page: hmm, not TOO complicated

DawnBurn: Moving versus copy & paste.

2007-09-28T03:18:02Z

Moving versus copy & paste.

DawnBurn: moving old discussion

2007-09-17T01:47:06Z

moving old discussion

DawnBurn: /* History */ Thanks!

2007-09-07T21:26:02Z

History: Thanks!

Kay T: background

2007-09-07T20:30:26Z

background

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	What title syntax should be used on pages for anthologies that share a title with other books? I have used <nowiki>[[Title - Anthology]]</nowiki> in the past but I have also seen page titles using the publisher or all contributing authors' surnames (For example: [[Tapestry - Hunter, Kenyon, Kurland, Moning]], [[Fortune's Fool - Anthology]]). I like "Anthology" because it's simpler but is there a preferred method? --[[User:Amy\|Amy]] 18:51, 21 October 2007 (PDT)		What title syntax should be used on pages for anthologies that share a title with other books? I have used <nowiki>[[Title - Anthology]]</nowiki> in the past but I have also seen page titles using the publisher or all contributing authors' surnames (For example: [[Tapestry - Hunter, Kenyon, Kurland, Moning]], [[Fortune's Fool - Anthology]]). I like "Anthology" because it's simpler but is there a preferred method? --[[User:Amy\|Amy]] 18:51, 21 October 2007 (PDT)
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		+	:I had not seen the one with all the author names in the title. The one with the Publisher name is because there were two (!) anthologies with the same titles so <nowiki>[[Title - Anthology]]</nowiki> did not work. I pref <nowiki>[[Title - Anthology]]</nowiki> also, and the one with the author names looks kind of messy. --[[User:Kay T\|Kay T]] 19:51, 21 October 2007 (PDT)

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	::::Took a brief look (hadn't thought to check repetition) and nice job. --[[User:DawnBurn\|DawnBurn]] 16:30, 5 October 2007 (PDT)		::::Took a brief look (hadn't thought to check repetition) and nice job. --[[User:DawnBurn\|DawnBurn]] 16:30, 5 October 2007 (PDT)
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		+	== Page Titles for Anthologies ==
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		+	What title syntax should be used on pages for anthologies that share a title with other books? I have used <nowiki>[[Title - Anthology]]</nowiki> in the past but I have also seen page titles using the publisher or all contributing authors' surnames (For example: [[Tapestry - Hunter, Kenyon, Kurland, Moning]], [[Fortune's Fool - Anthology]]). I like "Anthology" because it's simpler but is there a preferred method? --[[User:Amy\|Amy]] 18:51, 21 October 2007 (PDT)

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	:::I deleted some of the repetition (mine), added some and rearranged so that this moving stuff comes first. I think it looks pretty good, but we should look at it again in a few days and see if it still makes sense! --[[User:Kay T\|Kay T]] 19:41, 4 October 2007 (PDT)		:::I deleted some of the repetition (mine), added some and rearranged so that this moving stuff comes first. I think it looks pretty good, but we should look at it again in a few days and see if it still makes sense! --[[User:Kay T\|Kay T]] 19:41, 4 October 2007 (PDT)
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		+	::::Took a brief look (hadn't thought to check repetition) and nice job. --[[User:DawnBurn\|DawnBurn]] 16:30, 5 October 2007 (PDT)

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	::First crack taken. Lemme know what you think. --[[User:DawnBurn\|DawnBurn]] 16:57, 4 October 2007 (PDT)		::First crack taken. Lemme know what you think. --[[User:DawnBurn\|DawnBurn]] 16:57, 4 October 2007 (PDT)
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		+	:::I deleted some of the repetition (mine), added some and rearranged so that this moving stuff comes first. I think it looks pretty good, but we should look at it again in a few days and see if it still makes sense! --[[User:Kay T\|Kay T]] 19:41, 4 October 2007 (PDT)

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	:The benefit of moving instead of copy&pasting is that you get the edit history moved along with the page. (In most cases this is not crucial.) I don't think that moving is that much more complicated than the current instructions, so I say we go for it. I like your "if too hard..." solution, maybe we could come up with something if the whole thing is too complicated? You want to take a first crack? --[[User:Kay T\|Kay T]] 10:23, 28 September 2007 (PDT)		:The benefit of moving instead of copy&pasting is that you get the edit history moved along with the page. (In most cases this is not crucial.) I don't think that moving is that much more complicated than the current instructions, so I say we go for it. I like your "if too hard..." solution, maybe we could come up with something if the whole thing is too complicated? You want to take a first crack? --[[User:Kay T\|Kay T]] 10:23, 28 September 2007 (PDT)
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		+	::First crack taken. Lemme know what you think. --[[User:DawnBurn\|DawnBurn]] 16:57, 4 October 2007 (PDT)

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	==Creating Page & Moving Page==		==Creating Page & Moving Page==
	In the current write up I had people put the current entry of the title into a text editor. Really, the page should be moved (my fault, I wasn't doing that before) to the correct <nowiki>[[Title - Author Name]]</nowiki> page and then the redirect replaced with the disamb page information. However, I think that is something pretty complex to put here. Thoughts? --[[User:DawnBurn\|DawnBurn]] 20:18, 27 September 2007 (PDT)		In the current write up I had people put the current entry of the title into a text editor. Really, the page should be moved (my fault, I wasn't doing that before) to the correct <nowiki>[[Title - Author Name]]</nowiki> page and then the redirect replaced with the disamb page information. However, I think that is something pretty complex to put here. Thoughts? --[[User:DawnBurn\|DawnBurn]] 20:18, 27 September 2007 (PDT)
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		+	:The benefit of moving instead of copy&pasting is that you get the edit history moved along with the page. (In most cases this is not crucial.) I don't think that moving is that much more complicated than the current instructions, so I say we go for it. I like your "if too hard..." solution, maybe we could come up with something if the whole thing is too complicated? You want to take a first crack? --[[User:Kay T\|Kay T]] 10:23, 28 September 2007 (PDT)

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	::I'm so glad you like what I've done so far. I'm only organized about stuff that it isn't necessarily my job to be organized about. I love MediaWiki format, so it works great for me. --[[User:DawnBurn\|DawnBurn]] 01:21, 3 September 2007 (PDT)		::I'm so glad you like what I've done so far. I'm only organized about stuff that it isn't necessarily my job to be organized about. I love MediaWiki format, so it works great for me. --[[User:DawnBurn\|DawnBurn]] 01:21, 3 September 2007 (PDT)
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		+	==Creating Page & Moving Page==
		+	In the current write up I had people put the current entry of the title into a text editor. Really, the page should be moved (my fault, I wasn't doing that before) to the correct <nowiki>[[Title - Author Name]]</nowiki> page and then the redirect replaced with the disamb page information. However, I think that is something pretty complex to put here. Thoughts? --[[User:DawnBurn\|DawnBurn]] 20:18, 27 September 2007 (PDT)

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	The template looks good. Thanks. I think I will come backt to this page later after I have forgotten how to do it myself and see if it makes sense! --[[User:Kay T\|Kay T]] 15:57, 4 September 2007 (PDT)		The template looks good. Thanks. I think I will come backt to this page later after I have forgotten how to do it myself and see if it makes sense! --[[User:Kay T\|Kay T]] 15:57, 4 September 2007 (PDT)
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		+	==Notes from Talk Page==
		+	I created [[Help:Same Title Multiple Authors]] and edited [[Book Template]] to try and recommend the format discussed below and to also encourage others to use the Category and create the pages. Please take a look. --[[User:DawnBurn\|DawnBurn]] 15:51, 31 August 2007 (PDT)
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		+	:Dawn, thanks so much for getting this page started! It's been on my to-do list forever, but, as you can see, there's always something ahead of actual progress. You clearly have an organized mind (mine, lately, has resembled a jigsaw puzzle with key pieces lost forever) and I soooo appreciate you take the time to write "help" for the various tricky aspects of the wiki. I saw your conversation with KayT about using various wiki formats. We settled on MediaWiki because it seemed to have the best documentation, but I have to admit I was surprised at the various products available.--[[User:Romancewiki\|Romancewiki]] 10:03, 2 September 2007 (PDT)
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		+	::I'm so glad you like what I've done so far. I'm only organized about stuff that it isn't necessarily my job to be organized about. I love MediaWiki format, so it works great for me. --[[User:DawnBurn\|DawnBurn]] 01:21, 3 September 2007 (PDT)

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 ==History==
 For what it is worth, when we first started encountering more than one book by the same title, we usually found it when we added a book to the book page, or when we pasted a list of books into an author's page, saw a blue link and were disappointed to see it was a book by a different author. At that time, our solution was to make a new page for the new book (the <nowiki>[[book title - author name]]</nowiki>), and list it on the [[Books]] page as two books with the same title. Leigh started creating the [[:category:Books - Same Title|Books - Same Title]] disambiguation pages when she was adding info on the various numbered series and started coming up with lots of the same titles. So you will find a legacy of lots of entries on the book pages, author pages, and book pages where there has not been a disamb page created. I usually used the # and number to give a bigger target to click on. Others did not. --[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 13:30, 7 September 2007 (PDT)
 ==Creation==

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		+	==History==
		+	For what it is worth, when we first started encountering more than one book by the same title, we usually found it when we added a book to the book page, or when we pasted a list of books into an author's page, saw a blue link and were disappointed to see it was a book by a different author. At that time, our solution was to make a new page for the new book (the <nowiki>[[book title - author name]]</nowiki>), and list it on the [[Books]] page as two books with the same title. Leigh started creating the [[:category:Books - Same Title\|Books - Same Title]] disambiguation pages when she was adding info on the various numbered series and started coming up with lots of the same titles. So you will find a legacy of lots of entries on the book pages, author pages, and book pages where there has not been a disamb page created. I usually used the # and number to give a bigger target to click on. Others did not. --[[User:Kay T\|Kay T]] 13:30, 7 September 2007 (PDT)
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		+	==Creation==
	This was created to hopefully allow other readers/wiki'ers to create [[Category: Books - Same Title]] pages. I made it a Help file instead of in the main, but I think all the help files are in the main. Feedback welcome. I'm going to try to figure out if I can create templates for the Disamb. page and/or the visual flags that Wiki uses for the fixing old links instead of the Category addition. But I'm not sure where that will go. --[[User:DawnBurn\|DawnBurn]] 15:48, 31 August 2007 (PDT)		This was created to hopefully allow other readers/wiki'ers to create [[Category: Books - Same Title]] pages. I made it a Help file instead of in the main, but I think all the help files are in the main. Feedback welcome. I'm going to try to figure out if I can create templates for the Disamb. page and/or the visual flags that Wiki uses for the fixing old links instead of the Category addition. But I'm not sure where that will go. --[[User:DawnBurn\|DawnBurn]] 15:48, 31 August 2007 (PDT)