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Kay T: /* Author Names In List */ done

2007-10-12T19:47:24Z

Author Names In List: done

Kay T: lots of stuff you have to just look at the page

2007-09-19T01:33:29Z

lots of stuff you have to just look at the page

Kay T: /* Novellas & Anthologies */

2007-09-19T00:58:13Z

Novellas & Anthologies

Leigh at 22:39, 18 September 2007

2007-09-18T22:39:33Z

Robini: /* Novellas & Anthologies */

2007-09-18T22:31:23Z

Novellas & Anthologies

Robini at 22:22, 18 September 2007

2007-09-18T22:22:20Z

Kay T: /* To Do */ added heading

2007-09-18T17:53:02Z

To Do: added heading

DawnBurn: /* Reissued books */ typo

2007-09-18T05:56:44Z

Reissued books: typo

DawnBurn: /* Reissued books */ Killing out of date links

2007-09-18T05:56:15Z

Reissued books: Killing out of date links

DawnBurn: Novellas & Anthologies Addition

2007-09-18T04:27:46Z

Novellas & Anthologies Addition

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	::::My thought: Have all be of the same format "First Last". If you wish to display them as "Last, First" do so using the pipe: <nowiki>[[First Last \| Last, First]]</nowiki>. And do redirects for any pages that already created under the Last, First to First Last. --[[User:DawnBurn\|DawnBurn]] 18:06, 11 September 2007 (PDT) (late time stamp)		::::My thought: Have all be of the same format "First Last". If you wish to display them as "Last, First" do so using the pipe: <nowiki>[[First Last \| Last, First]]</nowiki>. And do redirects for any pages that already created under the Last, First to First Last. --[[User:DawnBurn\|DawnBurn]] 18:06, 11 September 2007 (PDT) (late time stamp)
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		+	I added the style that when adding author's names to the [[Authors]] pages you use '''Last, First''' which requires a piped entry. --[[User:Kay T\|Kay T]] 12:47, 12 October 2007 (PDT)

	== Reissued books ==		== Reissued books ==

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 #Yes.  That way we can help make sure novellas link to the parent Anthology and aren't italicized.
 --[[User:DawnBurn|DawnBurn]] 21:27, 17 September 2007 (PDT)
 :I actually feel that Novellas shouldn't have their own page.  (See my discussion at: [[Talk:Starry, Starry Night]] ... I guess I should move that here). For the most part, their description can be folded into the anthology page, unless there's something really super special about them.
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 :My example is at [[Jingle Bell Rock - Anthology 2005]] (I guess I did include the year, after all), and the [[Jingle Bell Rock]] Disamb. page --[[User:Robini|Robini]] 15:31, 18 September 2007 (PDT)
 ==Referring to Publishers==
 I've seen a lot of inconsistency in whether we leave on the "press"/"LLC"/"Publishing"/"Imprints" At the end of a publisher's name (See: [[St. Martin's Press]] v. [[Kensington]] Books frex). Is there a general guideline for leave it in/lop it off? It's 6 of one, a half dozen of the other for me as far as I'm concerned, but it would be nice to have consistency.  --[[User:Robini|Robini]] 15:22, 18 September 2007 (PDT)

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 #Do we list Novellas on the "Books" pages by first letter of title?  Or just the title of the Anthology?
 #How do we list authors on Anthologies/Novellas? Example: [[Always A Bridesmaid - Julie Kistler]].  This is actually the title of the anthology.  Kistler is listed as the only author via amazon, though there are 3 authors and 3 stories inside, see my copy of the amazon listing on [[Talk:Always A Bridesmaid - Julie Kistler | the talk page]].
 #Should we have a different template for Novellas instead of the Book template?
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 My thoughts:
 #List only the anthologies on the Books letter pages as they are books, not the novellas.

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 #Do we list Novellas on the "Books" pages by first letter of title?  Or just the title of the Anthology?
 #How do we list authors on Anthologies/Novellas? Example: [[Always A Bridesmaid - Julie Kistler]].  This is actually the title of the anthology.  Kistler is listed as the only author via amazon, though there are 3 authors and 3 stories inside, see my copy of the amazon listing on [[Talk:Always A Bridesmaid - Julie Kistler | the talk page]].
 #Should we have a different template for Novellas instead of the Book template?
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-I actually feel that Novellas shouldn't have their own page.  (See my discussion at: [[Talk:Starry Starry Night]] ... I guess I should move that here). For the most part, their description can be folded into the anthology page, unless there's something really super special about them. I've been just spelling out all the authors when I put an anthology into the books page (you can copy paste it from the anthology page anyway), and I just used the word " - Anthology" in the place of where the author's name would go to differentiate out the one Anthology I ran into that had the same title as other (single-author) books. What we'll do if we get two similaly titled ''Anthologies'', though.. that I don't know. I'd kind of favor " Title - Year Anthology" or "Title - Anthology 1/2/3" over picking a single author to stand in on the page title.
+:I actually feel that Novellas shouldn't have their own page.  (See my discussion at: [[Talk:Starry, Starry Night]] ... I guess I should move that here). For the most part, their description can be folded into the anthology page, unless there's something really super special about them.
 ==Referring to Publishers==
 I've seen a lot of inconsistency in whether we leave on the "press"/"LLC"/"Publishing"/"Imprints" At the end of a publisher's name (See: [[St. Martin's Press]] v. [[Kensington]] Books frex). Is there a general guideline for leave it in/lop it off? It's 6 of one, a half dozen of the other for me as far as I'm concerned, but it would be nice to have consistency.  --[[User:Robini|Robini]] 15:22, 18 September 2007 (PDT)

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	#Yes. That way we can help make sure novellas link to the parent Anthology and aren't italicized.		#Yes. That way we can help make sure novellas link to the parent Anthology and aren't italicized.
	--[[User:DawnBurn\|DawnBurn]] 21:27, 17 September 2007 (PDT)		--[[User:DawnBurn\|DawnBurn]] 21:27, 17 September 2007 (PDT)
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		+	I actually feel that Novellas shouldn't have their own page. (See my discussion at: [[Talk:Starry Starry Night]] ... I guess I should move that here). For the most part, their description can be folded into the anthology page, unless there's something really super special about them. I've been just spelling out all the authors when I put an anthology into the books page (you can copy paste it from the anthology page anyway), and I just used the word " - Anthology" in the place of where the author's name would go to differentiate out the one Anthology I ran into that had the same title as other (single-author) books. What we'll do if we get two similaly titled ''Anthologies'', though.. that I don't know. I'd kind of favor " Title - Year Anthology" or "Title - Anthology 1/2/3" over picking a single author to stand in on the page title.
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		+	==Referring to Publishers==
		+	I've seen a lot of inconsistency in whether we leave on the "press"/"LLC"/"Publishing"/"Imprints" At the end of a publisher's name (See: [[St. Martin's Press]] v. [[Kensington]] Books frex). Is there a general guideline for leave it in/lop it off? It's 6 of one, a half dozen of the other for me as far as I'm concerned, but it would be nice to have consistency. --[[User:Robini\|Robini]] 15:22, 18 September 2007 (PDT)

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 ::2) When listing authors alphabetically, should we bother with "Firstname Last|Lastname First" syntax as they do here - [[Erotic Romance]], or just leave the format as "Firstname Last" Format, to avoid confusion when new users populate pages? Personally, I am leaning towards the latter, having just found articles for "Racy Li" and "Li, Racy" that were identical, and most likely came from the page I linked to.--[[User:Robini|Robini]] 14:43, 11 September 2007 (PDT)
 Things to add:
 :''1 - <s>Author names with spaces (like we ran into in the [[Cheryl St.John]] v. [[Cheryl St. John]] issue'' - what did we decide on this?</s> '''DONE'''--[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 17:25, 12 September 2007 (PDT)
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 :::I found the existing instance of this same name thing [[Kathryn Blair - 1]]. What do you think? Also see [[Authors - B]]. --[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 13:03, 12 September 2007 (PDT)
+==Author Names In List==
 :''3 - how to list Author names in list:''

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 *<strike>Immaculate (reissue)</strike>
 *<strike>Infernal (reissue)</strike>
-*<striek>God of the Grim (reissue)</strike>
+*<strike>God of the Grim (reissue)</strike>
 And they have (reissue) in the title.  I can tell from websearching that these were all previously published, but that those publications are no longer in print.  Personally, I think having one page for the title (sans reissue) with a note that they were originally published elsewhere (include name of publication/publisher if possible) and that they are currently published by Ellora's Cave.  Which would mean moving all of these pages and minor editing. I don't know if there are more out there, but I wanted to get opinions on what people think.

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 == Reissued books ==
 More Style guide questions.  What is the stance on books that have been reissued?  There are a bunch by [[Kate Hill]]
-*[[Darkness Therein (reissue)]]
+*<strike>Darkness Therein (reissue)</strike>
-*[[Immaculate (reissue)]]
+*<strike>Immaculate (reissue)</strike>
-*[[Infernal (reissue)]]
+*<strike>Infernal (reissue)</strike>
-*[[God of the Grim (reissue)]]
+*<striek>God of the Grim (reissue)</strike>
 And they have (reissue) in the title.  I can tell from websearching that these were all previously published, but that those publications are no longer in print.  Personally, I think having one page for the title (sans reissue) with a note that they were originally published elsewhere (include name of publication/publisher if possible) and that they are currently published by Ellora's Cave.  Which would mean moving all of these pages and minor editing. I don't know if there are more out there, but I wanted to get opinions on what people think.
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 :::My thought: Only list a Category for release for First release and any releases post out of print.  So no to an addition for hard vs. paperback.  But yes if the book came out in 1976, went out of print, and was reissued (new publisher maybe) in 1990.  I have no clue for audio book/movie/etc.  =( --[[User:DawnBurn|DawnBurn]] 18:34, 16 September 2007 (PDT)
 ==RomanceWiki, Romance Wiki, Romancewiki==

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	::It is camel case "RomanceWiki".--[[User:Romancewiki\|Romancewiki]] 09:34, 16 September 2007 (PDT)		::It is camel case "RomanceWiki".--[[User:Romancewiki\|Romancewiki]] 09:34, 16 September 2007 (PDT)
	{{Done}}--[[User:Kay T\|Kay T]] 16:47, 16 September 2007 (PDT)		{{Done}}--[[User:Kay T\|Kay T]] 16:47, 16 September 2007 (PDT)
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		+	==Novellas & Anthologies==
		+	How do we want to list these? Specifically:
		+	#Do we list Novellas on the "Books" pages by first letter of title? Or just the title of the Anthology?
		+	#How do we list authors on Anthologies/Novellas? Example: [[Always A Bridesmaid - Julie Kistler]]. This is actually the title of the anthology. Kistler is listed as the only author via amazon, though there are 3 authors and 3 stories inside, see my copy of the amazon listing on [[Talk:Always A Bridesmaid - Julie Kistler \| the talk page]].
		+	#Should we have a different template for Novellas instead of the Book template?
		+	----
		+	My thoughts:
		+	#List only the anthologies on the Books letter pages as they are books, not the novellas.
		+	##Possible problem: Ebooks that release novellas as solo entities.
		+	#I say list all the authors on a given Anthology.
		+	##How to do the Default sort?
		+	#Yes. That way we can help make sure novellas link to the parent Anthology and aren't italicized.
		+	--[[User:DawnBurn\|DawnBurn]] 21:27, 17 September 2007 (PDT)