Talk:Blood Touch: Welcome To The Gratista Vampire Clan - Revision history

Kay T: comment, moved talk to my talk page

2007-09-19T01:45:34Z

comment, moved talk to my talk page

Robini: Added comments x2

2007-09-18T18:49:09Z

Added comments x2

Kay T: look at the book listing

2007-09-18T17:48:47Z

look at the book listing

DawnBurn: Series name, book title, murkiness, self-published

2007-09-18T04:16:10Z

Series name, book title, murkiness, self-published

Kay T: It was the "series" name for the book. Book has subtitle, I think

2007-09-18T01:11:34Z

It was the "series" name for the book. Book has subtitle, I think

DawnBurn: Why move with series name in article title?

2007-09-18T00:53:42Z

Why move with series name in article title?

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Wait, what? Why did you move it Kay? Now this article includes the series name which I thought we were avoiding. --[[User:DawnBurn|DawnBurn]] 17:53, 17 September 2007 (PDT)

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	:If you scroll down to the "Desires Unleashed" cover at http://www.bloodtouch.com/ (''Warning: backgroud music''), it also has a big "Blood Touch" on the cover, leading me to believe "Blood Touch" a series title, at least for "welcome to the clan" and "Desires Unleashed" (Caress sounds like a prequel, maybe?). I created the original pages from content submitted by the author (see the [[Cinsearae Santiago\|Author Page]]), and although I think KayT is right that original author did submit 'Blood Touch' as being part of the title for "Welcome to", the webpage makes it look like Blood Touch is actually the series. I don't care how we format it as long as we're consistent, but it's hard to be consistent when the author him-or-her-self isn't. --[[User:Robini\|Robini]] 11:49, 18 September 2007 (PDT)		:If you scroll down to the "Desires Unleashed" cover at http://www.bloodtouch.com/ (''Warning: backgroud music''), it also has a big "Blood Touch" on the cover, leading me to believe "Blood Touch" a series title, at least for "welcome to the clan" and "Desires Unleashed" (Caress sounds like a prequel, maybe?). I created the original pages from content submitted by the author (see the [[Cinsearae Santiago\|Author Page]]), and although I think KayT is right that original author did submit 'Blood Touch' as being part of the title for "Welcome to", the webpage makes it look like Blood Touch is actually the series. I don't care how we format it as long as we're consistent, but it's hard to be consistent when the author him-or-her-self isn't. --[[User:Robini\|Robini]] 11:49, 18 September 2007 (PDT)

−		+	::I think the name could be part of the series and title. I think it is actually funny the book is not even on the lulu page. Arghh! I thought the series was the Gratista Vampires! It is not really worth it for us to try to figure this out. I am moving the discussion about the publisher to a different talk page. See [[User talk:Kay T]]--[[User:Kay T\|Kay T]] 18:45, 18 September 2007 (PDT)
−	~~And also, this might deserve to~~ be ~~its own page, but honestly, AS DawnBurn has pointed out, does Romancewiki have a policy on self-published titles? On~~ the ~~one hand,~~ I ~~am not opposed to letting self-published authors use the wiki raise awareness for themselves (I file~~ it ~~more under "help~~ the ~~reader find books they might be interested in," once you add categories and so~~ on~~) - and hey, additional content is additional content, if we don't have to add it, all~~ the ~~better - but~~ I am quickly arriving at "If an author can't be bothered to put together a professional-looking, well-organized webpage, and a traditional publisher can't be bothered to print it, is it really worth my while to take whatever mess the ~~author submitted, and spend my time formatting it?". In terms of dealing with unclear~~ series ~~titles and pages that make me listen to gothic music alongside my iTunes, I used to answer "yes," but now I'm leaning towards "no."~~
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−	~~Now, as to whether we delete~~ the ~~content, leave it as and have ugly pages, or~~ is ~~format~~ it ~~thereby spending our time~~ to ~~add credibility~~ to ~~a self-published title with a bad webpage, Well...That's up for debate~~.
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−	I ~~don't think we should be in~~ the business of policing what is 'acceptable' romance (aka 'wiki worthy'), which means no deleting, but...I also question spending so much of our time on self-submitting authors with very little or no distribution. I feel we'll be a more useful resource if we can cover what people are actually reading, and we are supposed to be a ~~resource first, even if we are an outlet for self-promotion in some capacity. So perhaps we could make a policy of not deleting pages for self-published authors, but warning any wikigoers that the~~ page ~~is author-submitted content? We could have a box like the "marked for deletion" one~~.
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−	~~That's my off-the-cuff $.02.~~ --[[User:~~Robini~~\|~~Robini~~]] 11:49, 18 September 2007 (PDT)

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 :I am not sure what I did. The page used to be [[Welcome To The Gratista Vampire Clan]] (series title or book title???) with this ISBN and other info (which seems to indicate it was a book with a subtitle, not a series). The link to the lulu page takes you to a page that does not list a book entitled Welcome To The Gratista Vampire Clan. I googled the ISBN number and it showed up a book entitled Blood Touch: Welcome To The Gratista Vampire Clan as a book with a subtitle, BUT that is also not on the lulu page. It is all rather murky and I was going to leave a note to fix it but then tried to do so myself. --[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 18:11, 17 September 2007 (PDT)
-::Hrmm... My understand is [[Blood Touch]] is the series name.  The books are [[Welcome To The Gratista Vampire Clan]],[[Desires Unleashed]], and [[Caress of a Psychopath]].  I agree that it is not on the lulu page and the author page doesn't list it (or the other books than Caress which has an additional subtitle).  Add the publisher into the mix and I think we are honestly looking at a self-published author.  I don't know what the policy is on that, BUT I do believe the move should be undone (redone?) and Blood Touch as a series.  If we don't just nuke the whole set of pages. --[[User:DawnBurn|DawnBurn]] 21:16, 17 September 2007 (PDT)
+::Hrmm... My understand is [[Blood Touch]] is the series name.  The books are [[Welcome To The Gratista Vampire Clan]], [[Desires Unleashed]], and [[Caress of a Psychopath]].  I agree that it is not on the lulu page and the author page doesn't list it (or the other books than Caress which has an additional subtitle).  Add the publisher into the mix and I think we are honestly looking at a self-published author.  I don't know what the policy is on that, BUT I do believe the move should be undone (redone?) and Blood Touch as a series.  If we don't just nuke the whole set of pages. --[[User:DawnBurn|DawnBurn]] 21:16, 17 September 2007 (PDT)
 :::Look at this link [http://www.bookfinder.com/dir/i/Blood_Touch-Welcome_To_The_Gratista_Vampire_Clan/1413751822/ Bookfinder listing for "Blood Touch"] and this review [http://www.coffeetimeromance.com/BookReviews/BloodtouchWelcomeToTheGratistaVampireClan.html Coffee Time Review] --[[User:Kay T|Kay T]] 10:48, 18 September 2007 (PDT)

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	:I am not sure what I did. The page used to be [[Welcome To The Gratista Vampire Clan]] (series title or book title???) with this ISBN and other info (which seems to indicate it was a book with a subtitle, not a series). The link to the lulu page takes you to a page that does not list a book entitled Welcome To The Gratista Vampire Clan. I googled the ISBN number and it showed up a book entitled Blood Touch: Welcome To The Gratista Vampire Clan as a book with a subtitle, BUT that is also not on the lulu page. It is all rather murky and I was going to leave a note to fix it but then tried to do so myself. --[[User:Kay T\|Kay T]] 18:11, 17 September 2007 (PDT)		:I am not sure what I did. The page used to be [[Welcome To The Gratista Vampire Clan]] (series title or book title???) with this ISBN and other info (which seems to indicate it was a book with a subtitle, not a series). The link to the lulu page takes you to a page that does not list a book entitled Welcome To The Gratista Vampire Clan. I googled the ISBN number and it showed up a book entitled Blood Touch: Welcome To The Gratista Vampire Clan as a book with a subtitle, BUT that is also not on the lulu page. It is all rather murky and I was going to leave a note to fix it but then tried to do so myself. --[[User:Kay T\|Kay T]] 18:11, 17 September 2007 (PDT)
	::Hrmm... My understand is [[Blood Touch]] is the series name. The books are [[Welcome To The Gratista Vampire Clan]],[[Desires Unleashed]], and [[Caress of a Psychopath]]. I agree that it is not on the lulu page and the author page doesn't list it (or the other books than Caress which has an additional subtitle). Add the publisher into the mix and I think we are honestly looking at a self-published author. I don't know what the policy is on that, BUT I do believe the move should be undone (redone?) and Blood Touch as a series. If we don't just nuke the whole set of pages. --[[User:DawnBurn\|DawnBurn]] 21:16, 17 September 2007 (PDT)		::Hrmm... My understand is [[Blood Touch]] is the series name. The books are [[Welcome To The Gratista Vampire Clan]],[[Desires Unleashed]], and [[Caress of a Psychopath]]. I agree that it is not on the lulu page and the author page doesn't list it (or the other books than Caress which has an additional subtitle). Add the publisher into the mix and I think we are honestly looking at a self-published author. I don't know what the policy is on that, BUT I do believe the move should be undone (redone?) and Blood Touch as a series. If we don't just nuke the whole set of pages. --[[User:DawnBurn\|DawnBurn]] 21:16, 17 September 2007 (PDT)
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		+	:::Look at this link [http://www.bookfinder.com/dir/i/Blood_Touch-Welcome_To_The_Gratista_Vampire_Clan/1413751822/ Bookfinder listing for "Blood Touch"] and this review [http://www.coffeetimeromance.com/BookReviews/BloodtouchWelcomeToTheGratistaVampireClan.html Coffee Time Review] --[[User:Kay T\|Kay T]] 10:48, 18 September 2007 (PDT)

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	Wait, what? Why did you move it Kay? Now this article includes the series name which I thought we were avoiding. --[[User:DawnBurn\|DawnBurn]] 17:53, 17 September 2007 (PDT)		Wait, what? Why did you move it Kay? Now this article includes the series name which I thought we were avoiding. --[[User:DawnBurn\|DawnBurn]] 17:53, 17 September 2007 (PDT)

−	I am not sure what I did. The page used to be [[Welcome To The Gratista Vampire Clan]] (series title or book title???) with this ISBN and other info (which seems to indicate it was a book with a subtitle, not a series). The link to the lulu page takes you to a page that does not list a book entitled Welcome To The Gratista Vampire Clan. I googled the ISBN number and it showed up a book entitled Blood Touch: Welcome To The Gratista Vampire Clan as a book with a subtitle, BUT that is also not on the lulu page. It is all rather murky and I was going to leave a note to fix it but then tried to do so myself. --[[User:Kay T\|Kay T]] 18:11, 17 September 2007 (PDT)	+	:I am not sure what I did. The page used to be [[Welcome To The Gratista Vampire Clan]] (series title or book title???) with this ISBN and other info (which seems to indicate it was a book with a subtitle, not a series). The link to the lulu page takes you to a page that does not list a book entitled Welcome To The Gratista Vampire Clan. I googled the ISBN number and it showed up a book entitled Blood Touch: Welcome To The Gratista Vampire Clan as a book with a subtitle, BUT that is also not on the lulu page. It is all rather murky and I was going to leave a note to fix it but then tried to do so myself. --[[User:Kay T\|Kay T]] 18:11, 17 September 2007 (PDT)
		+	::Hrmm... My understand is [[Blood Touch]] is the series name. The books are [[Welcome To The Gratista Vampire Clan]],[[Desires Unleashed]], and [[Caress of a Psychopath]]. I agree that it is not on the lulu page and the author page doesn't list it (or the other books than Caress which has an additional subtitle). Add the publisher into the mix and I think we are honestly looking at a self-published author. I don't know what the policy is on that, BUT I do believe the move should be undone (redone?) and Blood Touch as a series. If we don't just nuke the whole set of pages. --[[User:DawnBurn\|DawnBurn]] 21:16, 17 September 2007 (PDT)

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	Wait, what? Why did you move it Kay? Now this article includes the series name which I thought we were avoiding. --[[User:DawnBurn\|DawnBurn]] 17:53, 17 September 2007 (PDT)		Wait, what? Why did you move it Kay? Now this article includes the series name which I thought we were avoiding. --[[User:DawnBurn\|DawnBurn]] 17:53, 17 September 2007 (PDT)
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		+	I am not sure what I did. The page used to be [[Welcome To The Gratista Vampire Clan]] (series title or book title???) with this ISBN and other info (which seems to indicate it was a book with a subtitle, not a series). The link to the lulu page takes you to a page that does not list a book entitled Welcome To The Gratista Vampire Clan. I googled the ISBN number and it showed up a book entitled Blood Touch: Welcome To The Gratista Vampire Clan as a book with a subtitle, BUT that is also not on the lulu page. It is all rather murky and I was going to leave a note to fix it but then tried to do so myself. --[[User:Kay T\|Kay T]] 18:11, 17 September 2007 (PDT)