Help talk:Book Template

(moved from User talk:DawnBurn

Dawn, Thanks for fixing the categorization of the the real template:book (as opposed to the article Book Template), but I am sort of confused about removing the Amazon link. It seems that it would be hard to insert this link from scratch each time. Is there a reason you removed it from this template? Have you used the {{subst:book}} syntax with this template? was that the bug you were talking about? Maybe you could make an Amazon link template?--Kay T 12:35, 1 September 2007 (PDT)

I removed it because the link was dead and it made the capache (human test) go off, which was an extra layer. The amazon link needs to be added each time anyway. The bug was that there was extra data in template after I changed it and I wanted that removed. --DawnBurn 14:22, 1 September 2007 (PDT)

I don't understand. The link was dead until you filled in the ISBN number. The only thing you needed to fill in was the ISBN number. Now you have to find the info for the link each time and copy and paste it in? Is that what you are thinking? I know that there are an increasing number of books which link to the e-publisher, which I assume is fine, but for books that are sold on Amazon, it seems like a major pain to have to cut and paste all that Amazon code (since it can't be filled in from memory or just from the ISBN info). --Kay T 14:30, 1 September 2007 (PDT)

I added back the Amazon link -- while it does set of the evil Captcha (which much as I hate it, is working), I think most users are getting that they're supposed to properly fill in the ISBN and book title. But I'm going to add instructions to make that clear. Ideally, we would have links to multiple bookstores, but until there's a module that makes that feature easy-as-pie, we'll stick with just the Amazon. It looks like I won't be around much today either , book is done, review (totally biased!) is half-written, and the husband is planning an afternoon out of the house.--Romancewiki 09:50, 2 September 2007 (PDT)

As you say. I thought that the Captcha was slowly people down. I also didn't realize that you only had to sub the ISBN. I was always copying the whole Amazon link. =) --DawnBurn 01:19, 3 September 2007 (PDT)

Put me down for hating that Captcha too - I'm on a slow (but still broadband!) internet connection at home and it takes *forever* to load... Is there a way to maybe comment out the "http..." and then leave instructions to UN-comment it out in final formatting? I've also been just cut-and-pasting the Amazon http directly, because unless the book is in front of me, I have to go there to get the ISBN anyway. --Robini 14:48, 4 September 2007 (PDT)

Well, as Kay T said you could have your own template on your User Page or Sandbox and cut & paste. I think I could comment it out but I'm not sure that is a good solution because I think it would be harder to comment back in for low level users. I created Template:Book_linkless for a double from the old page. Usage is {{subst:book_linkless}}--DawnBurn 16:26, 4 September 2007 (PDT)

If you had been here pre Captcha when we had vandals constantly (I mean lots every day for several days, very scary), you would appreciate that it has stopped that problem. I think the Captcha is weird because it seems to think there are links even when there are no links, or something. Maybe Dawn will know if we could comment out the link. The other option would be to make your own template on your user page and cut and paste. Or we could have two templates, with and without. --Kay T 16:04, 4 September 2007 (PDT)

Let me be clear. I LOVE the Captcha in general. What I didn't/don't like was having it auto load for the Template with a broken link and then have to go again when I fixed the link. Mostly the slow down for a dead/useless link. --DawnBurn 16:26, 4 September 2007 (PDT)

Thanks for the new template! I think that is the best solution (the comment out would probably be too confusing for non-techies). --Kay T 16:37, 4 September 2007 (PDT)